too confident?

[Extended-Phenotype]

you smell of poo.


if you cannot accept that some players are more or less suited for any club at any particular time, you are beyond my help.

i can only apologise for my own inadequacies

How many straw men are you building? You are close to having a f/cking army and that quite frankly terrifies me.

[melonhead]

youre the one making up silly arguments to suit your point.


your argument assumes that all of the players we look to get in are perfect, and all at that same perfect level, so you should keep going down the list of possible players indefinitely, until someone signs

& just shouting straw man doesnt really make it correct.
of course there always comes a point where you either- get so far down the list of possible ins that the players no longer suit your requirements, or you reach a point thats just impossible to manage numbers wise.
you cant monitor every player in the world, and get representatives to start balls rolling for a move for all of them in every window.


you look for players who are will improve the team/squad,at a price you can afford, in positions you need them, who may be willing to come here, and whose club is willing to sell them. if you get through all of those players and none of them sign for you, you want the club to attempt to sign people who dont fit all those criteria, whereas im happy to say - you know what, im not happy just spending money to appease fans, so im not going to buy players we didnt really want/need/think were good enough/cant afford, just cos spazmos go mental on t'internet.

i'm happy with that, and your total lack of argument beyond witless bleating about strawmen confirms that i'm right to be happy.

[melonhead]

Relax guys. Gonna get promoted.

i dont understand JMs trainers

[Cureton's Volley]

Relax guys. Gonna get promoted.

i dont understand JMs trainers

Bizzarre, especially with turned up Chino's and white socks.

[Extended-Phenotype]

:roll:

youre the one making up silly arguments to suit your point.


your argument assumes that all of the players we look to get in are perfect, and all at that same perfect level, so you should keep going down the list of possible players indefinitely, until someone signs

& just shouting straw man doesnt really make it correct.
of course there always comes a point where you either- get so far down the list of possible ins that the players no longer suit your requirements, or you reach a point thats just impossible to manage numbers wise.
you cant monitor every player in the world, and get representatives to start balls rolling for a move for all of them in every window.


you look for players who are will improve the team/squad,at a price you can afford, in positions you need them, who may be willing to come here, and whose club is willing to sell them. if you get through all of those players and none of them sign for you, you want the club to attempt to sign people who dont fit all those criteria, whereas im happy to say - you know what, im not happy just spending money to appease fans, so im not going to buy players we didnt really want/need/think were good enough/cant afford, just cos spazmos go mental on t'internet.

i'm happy with that, and your total lack of argument beyond witless bleating about strawmen confirms that i'm right to be happy.

There you go again, making up what my argument is in order to beat it.

I’m just saying there must be more than two players that (a) are suitable (b) are affordable and (c) would play for us, that would complete our team.

There is either a lack of desire to invest, a lack of proper scouting or poor management which has left us hitting for just two targets, missing both and having nothing else to aim for.

You must agree or you wouldn’t keep twisting what I’m saying.

[melonhead]

in january there were more than two. there were three primary targets that we knew about.
ince, sig, and aspas.

& to assume that was all we were ever interested in is daft. they were just the three that got far enough along the process, that we heard about.

we thought we were getting sigurdsson. until spurs' deal for another player fell through at the end of the window, we thought we would get him.

its just about how much resource imo how many representatives we have around the world dealing with all our 2 ary, 3 ary, 4 ary, 5 ary, 6ary targets?
do you continue this when you think the main deal, the one you really wanted was about to go through?

we didnt. we concentrated on at least three 1ary targets, who could make the difference, we could afford, & may want to come here.
im happy with that.

youre not. i get it.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Good. Then there is no need to twist it into something else and argue against it then, is there?

Seems we've aimed for Hooper and Sharp, possibly a punt on Austin.

In my opinion we need a striker and I don't think the list of possible targets is big enough.

[Platypuss]

Good. Then there is no need to twist it into something else and argue against it then, is there?

Seems we've aimed for Hooper and Sharp, possibly a punt on Austin.

In my opinion we need a striker and I don't think the list of possible targets is big enough.

I've re-read this a couple of times and it still screams facile.

You're better than this, E-P.

[melonhead]

Good. Then there is no need to twist it into something else and argue against it then, is there?

Seems we've aimed for Hooper and Sharp, possibly a punt on Austin.

In my opinion we need a striker and I don't think the list of possible targets is big enough.

but you dont know the list, or who is on it, or how far down it actually goes.
those are just the ones youve heard about.
its not even clear if they are actually true.

im not arguing against long lists. just that you must draw a line somewhere on that list, and often the fans wont be aware of who is on the list, or how long it is.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Good. Then there is no need to twist it into something else and argue against it then, is there?

Seems we've aimed for Hooper and Sharp, possibly a punt on Austin.

In my opinion we need a striker and I don't think the list of possible targets is big enough.

I've re-read this a couple of times and it still screams facile.

You're better than this, E-P.

I get it. You have it in for me today.

Both fails, though.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Good. Then there is no need to twist it into something else and argue against it then, is there?

Seems we've aimed for Hooper and Sharp, possibly a punt on Austin.

In my opinion we need a striker and I don't think the list of possible targets is big enough.

but you dont know the list, or who is on it, or how far down it actually goes.
those are just the ones youve heard about.
its not even clear if they are actually true.

im not arguing against long lists. just that you must draw a line somewhere on that list, and often the fans wont be aware of who is on the list, or how long it is.

This is a fairer response than all that inventing shit about "oh, so you just want to sign anyone for any sum of money just for the sake of signing somebody LOL"

I prefer this Melonhead.

Anyway, I think we'd know if we targeted more and perhaps made a few more offers. That doesn't appear to be the case and I find that disappointing and still maintain that ability isn't so linear you could draw a line so quickly.

[Platypuss]

I espouse equal opportunities E-P. If it's facile shit I'll call on it.

[Extended-Phenotype]

The concern that we might get to the end of the window and not secure a striker is an opinion ripe for attack, yet suggesting this concern equates to demanding money is spent on anybody for sake of it is what, erudite?

You sure have let a lot of shit through the net, Mr Neutral.

[Ian Royal]

Not read all the last couple of pages. But in case it hasn't already been said for the simpletons it isn't a case of spend £15m get £90m profit as you imply. It's pay £15m greater deficit in spending than we're already doing. Bear in mind without player sales we were trading at £4m losses in the champ. So that's £19m deficit.

Then the £90m quoted is actually FOUR years guaranteed income. Not to mention that costs doublee to triple I the PL and that's witb us allegedly chronically underspending. So lets take the profits from our first PL season of £6m. That still leaves increased debt of £13m from getting promoted, which would take another three seasons to pay off in the PL when allegedly not paying enough to compete.. Assuming the gamble, which only increass our chances - nothing more-, works.

In summary, your sums don't add up, you innumerate fuktards.

[Platypuss]

You sure have let a lot of shit through the net, Mr Neutral.

I've given up on Brendy.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

People assume that all you have to do is pay enough money and you can sign anyone you want.

It's not as easy as that in real life - this isn''t a computer game, the players are real people with real opinions, real personal circumstances and real families they don't want to have to relocate.

[melonhead]

The concern that we might get to the end of the window and not secure a striker is an opinion ripe for attack, yet suggesting this concern equates to demanding money is spent on anybody for sake of it is what, erudite?

You sure have let a lot of shit through the net, Mr Neutral.

It's a concern.I just think the club are on it, and if they fail it won't be because they didn't try. Transfers are complicated.
And I realise that pushing multiple transfers to the point that fans hear about it can only be done for a relatively small list of candidates.
Will I be concerned if we don't get a striker or two.? Yes.
Do I think it will affect our ability to go up? God yes.
Do I think it will be down to mismanagement of the process from our side if it doesn't happen? Most probably not, though we should always review how the transfer process succeeded or failed to learn lessons.

[Extended-Phenotype]

You sure have let a lot of shit through the net, Mr Neutral.

I've given up on Brendy.

[melonhead]

You sure have let a lot of shit through the net, Mr Neutral.

I've given up on Brendy.

agreed.

in fact alol from here in slough

[melonhead]

Good. Then there is no need to twist it into something else and argue against it then, is there?

Seems we've aimed for Hooper and Sharp, possibly a punt on Austin.

In my opinion we need a striker and I don't think the list of possible targets is big enough.

but you dont know the list, or who is on it, or how far down it actually goes.
those are just the ones youve heard about.
its not even clear if they are actually true.

im not arguing against long lists. just that you must draw a line somewhere on that list, and often the fans wont be aware of who is on the list, or how long it is.

This is a fairer response than all that inventing shit about "oh, so you just want to sign anyone for any sum of money just for the sake of signing somebody LOL"

I prefer this Melonhead.

Anyway, I think we'd know if we targeted more and perhaps made a few more offers. That doesn't appear to be the case and I find that disappointing and still maintain that ability isn't so linear you could draw a line so quickly.

so the argument really goes-

you - i disagree with the number of players we shortlist for transfers, the list should be longer, and we should keep going down it till we sign someone
me - im happy with it.i realise its often hard to sign the right player, and am also happy with the number of targets we have, including plan B and C.
you - well, i think you are wrong.
me - i disagree, but understand you feel differently, and respect your right to do so.