Squad Watch 2022/23

[Zip]

Played CM 1st half vs Benfica.

He basically has to play CB until we get a LB because Dann is a useless crock, Moore is poor a crock and isn't wanted, for some reason we don't want to use Dorsett and McIntyre has to play LB.

Mind you, I thought the new lad Clarke looked very handy at CB vs West Ham 2nd half.

I don’t know how old Clarke is but he might just start at left back if we did go down the flat back four route or even as a left sided centre back.
I would like to see TMac given minutes against Brighton at CDM.

Nah, we've now got Fornah, Hendricks, Hutchinson and Tetek who can all play DM. Plus Leavy looked handy.

I want to see McIntyre in his proper position at CB with a proper LB in.

I would prefer TMac at centre back too but I don’t think that’s happening. He seems to be behind Holmes and Hutchinson. If we get a left back in he will be on the bench
He should be starting imo and so should Meite.
We now need a left back in and another ten. Then we are looking pretty solid.

[Snowflake Royal]

I don’t know how old Clarke is but he might just start at left back if we did go down the flat back four route or even as a left sided centre back.
I would like to see TMac given minutes against Brighton at CDM.

Nah, we've now got Fornah, Hendricks, Hutchinson and Tetek who can all play DM. Plus Leavy looked handy.

I want to see McIntyre in his proper position at CB with a proper LB in.

I would prefer TMac at centre back too but I don’t think that’s happening. He seems to be behind Holmes and Hutchinson. If we get a left back in he will be on the bench
He should be starting imo and so should Meite.
We now need a left back in and another ten. Then we are looking pretty solid.

Not sure there's much to draw that conclusion from. McIntyre has been at LB because we didn’t have one imo, not because he's behind the others at CB.

[Ascotexgunner]

I don’t know how old Clarke is but he might just start at left back if we did go down the flat back four route or even as a left sided centre back.
I would like to see TMac given minutes against Brighton at CDM.

Nah, we've now got Fornah, Hendricks, Hutchinson and Tetek who can all play DM. Plus Leavy looked handy.

I want to see McIntyre in his proper position at CB with a proper LB in.

I would prefer TMac at centre back too but I don’t think that’s happening. He seems to be behind Holmes and Hutchinson. If we get a left back in he will be on the bench
He should be starting imo and so should Meite.
We now need a left back in and another ten. Then we are looking pretty solid.

I prefer him as a DM. Thought he did a good solid job there last season. He certainly deserves to start whether as a defender or midfielder.

[Zip]

Nah, we've now got Fornah, Hendricks, Hutchinson and Tetek who can all play DM. Plus Leavy looked handy.

I want to see McIntyre in his proper position at CB with a proper LB in.

I would prefer TMac at centre back too but I don’t think that’s happening. He seems to be behind Holmes and Hutchinson. If we get a left back in he will be on the bench
He should be starting imo and so should Meite.
We now need a left back in and another ten. Then we are looking pretty solid.

I prefer him as a DM. Thought he did a good solid job there last season. He certainly deserves to start whether as a defender or midfielder.

Yep

[Zip]

Nah, we've now got Fornah, Hendricks, Hutchinson and Tetek who can all play DM. Plus Leavy looked handy.

I want to see McIntyre in his proper position at CB with a proper LB in.

I would prefer TMac at centre back too but I don’t think that’s happening. He seems to be behind Holmes and Hutchinson. If we get a left back in he will be on the bench
He should be starting imo and so should Meite.
We now need a left back in and another ten. Then we are looking pretty solid.

Not sure there's much to draw that conclusion from. McIntyre has been at LB because we didn’t have one imo, not because he's behind the others at CB.

I think Ince rates Holmes at cb more than he does TMac

[Snowflake Royal]

I would prefer TMac at centre back too but I don’t think that’s happening. He seems to be behind Holmes and Hutchinson. If we get a left back in he will be on the bench
He should be starting imo and so should Meite.
We now need a left back in and another ten. Then we are looking pretty solid.

Not sure there's much to draw that conclusion from. McIntyre has been at LB because we didn’t have one imo, not because he's behind the others at CB.

I think Ince rates Holmes at cb more than he does TMac

But based on what?

[Hound]

Based on absolutely nothing I get the same impression

[Zip]

Not sure there's much to draw that conclusion from. McIntyre has been at LB because we didn’t have one imo, not because he's behind the others at CB.

I think Ince rates Holmes at cb more than he does TMac

But based on what?

On what he says and also Holmes always plays at cb when fit.

[Snowflake Royal]

I think Ince rates Holmes at cb more than he does TMac

But based on what?

On what he says and also Holmes always plays at cb when fit.

McIntyre has started every single competitive game Ince has been in charge of.

[Zip]

But based on what?

On what he says and also Holmes always plays at cb when fit.

McIntyre has started every single competitive game Ince has been in charge of.

Not at cb though. Holmes has been preferred there

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Give me players who may be a bit iffy now, but will be better for us in the future for playing. Over players who with experience who aren’t good enough and probably won't improve or be around for long.

Every. Single. Time.

And I agree, but that's not what I'm saying.

Given you said you'd happily have Jones, Davenport, Ward and Murphy, and you'd prefer them to the Academy players, it pretty much is.

We've also seen that players don't just get the chances if they're good enough. Stacey, Fosu, Cooper, Dickie etc prove that. They've got to get the chances to prove it.

Yeah as squad players. The likes of Murphy and Ward are both better than what Scott and Leavy are though.

Given you seem to keen to quote me, I guess you'll see I've said plenty of times that I would rather our promising youngsters go out on loan to impress, improve and gain experience lower down the ladder in the EFL. Every player you have mentioned above made their name in L1 before working their way back up to this level, which is what I'd want our players to do, but actually still be at the club and out on loan.

[Snowflake Royal]

On what he says and also Holmes always plays at cb when fit.

McIntyre has started every single competitive game Ince has been in charge of.

Not at cb though. Holmes has been preferred there

Because McIntyre could fill in elsewhere. That doesn't mean that if we have first choice LB / DMs he'll be left out in preference of Holmes.

If anything, being willing to use him out of position is a sign he's more trusted.

[Snowflake Royal]

And I agree, but that's not what I'm saying.

Given you said you'd happily have Jones, Davenport, Ward and Murphy, and you'd prefer them to the Academy players, it pretty much is.

We've also seen that players don't just get the chances if they're good enough. Stacey, Fosu, Cooper, Dickie etc prove that. They've got to get the chances to prove it.

Yeah as squad players. The likes of Murphy and Ward are both better than what Scott and Leavy are though.

Given you seem to keen to quote me, I guess you'll see I've said plenty of times that I would rather our promising youngsters go out on loan to impress, improve and gain experience lower down the ladder in the EFL. Every player you have mentioned above made their name in L1 before working their way back up to this level, which is what I'd want our players to do, but actually still be at the club and out on loan.

I'd rather they stay with us and get gradually introduced to our first team than let go and develop to as good / better than us elsewhere thanks.

Having watched Ward and Leavy both play in a friendly. Leavy is definitely the better option now, let alone in future. And Scott couldn't put in a much more disappointing performance than Murphy, who did nothing. And as squad players the Academy players are infinitely preferable. They are here. They are cheaper.

Games are important, but being regularly involved in Championship match day squads and getting a dozen sub appearances and half a dozen starts in the Championship, is going to be as good development as getting 20 or 30 starts in L1 training and playing with and against lesser players.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Given you said you'd happily have Jones, Davenport, Ward and Murphy, and you'd prefer them to the Academy players, it pretty much is.

We've also seen that players don't just get the chances if they're good enough. Stacey, Fosu, Cooper, Dickie etc prove that. They've got to get the chances to prove it.

Yeah as squad players. The likes of Murphy and Ward are both better than what Scott and Leavy are though.

Given you seem to keen to quote me, I guess you'll see I've said plenty of times that I would rather our promising youngsters go out on loan to impress, improve and gain experience lower down the ladder in the EFL. Every player you have mentioned above made their name in L1 before working their way back up to this level, which is what I'd want our players to do, but actually still be at the club and out on loan.

I'd rather they stay with us and get gradually introduced to our first team than let go and develop to as good / better than us elsewhere thanks.

Having watched Ward and Leavy both play in a friendly. Leavy is definitely the better option now, let alone in future. And Scott couldn't put in a much more disappointing performance than Murphy, who did nothing. And as squad players the Academy players are infinitely preferable. They are here. They are cheaper.

Games are important, but being regularly involved in Championship match day squads and getting a dozen sub appearances and half a dozen starts in the Championship, is going to be as good development as getting 20 or 30 starts in L1 training and playing with and against lesser players.

Yeah exactly I'm not saying being let go I'm saying loan them out.

As I've mentioned above, judging off one game where players are at different stages isn't exactly the best sample to go by.

You've literally mentioned half a dozen players above who all excelled by dropping down a division, developing, impressing and working their way up, not being thrown into a situation/level they perhaps weren't ready for, Jake Cooper himself is probably a good example of that. Development happens by playing and impressing at a level players can cope with first, you don't throw a learner swimmer in at the deep end straight away without armbands and say sink or swim do you.

[Zip]

McIntyre has started every single competitive game Ince has been in charge of.

Not at cb though. Holmes has been preferred there

Because McIntyre could fill in elsewhere. That doesn't mean that if we have first choice LB / DMs he'll be left out in preference of Holmes.

If anything, being willing to use him out of position is a sign he's more trusted.

If we sign a specialist cb we will find out but I doubt Ince would want to change cb's unless they were performing poorly
Holmes has the cb berth at the moment

[Snowflake Royal]

Yeah as squad players. The likes of Murphy and Ward are both better than what Scott and Leavy are though.

Given you seem to keen to quote me, I guess you'll see I've said plenty of times that I would rather our promising youngsters go out on loan to impress, improve and gain experience lower down the ladder in the EFL. Every player you have mentioned above made their name in L1 before working their way back up to this level, which is what I'd want our players to do, but actually still be at the club and out on loan.

I'd rather they stay with us and get gradually introduced to our first team than let go and develop to as good / better than us elsewhere thanks.

Having watched Ward and Leavy both play in a friendly. Leavy is definitely the better option now, let alone in future. And Scott couldn't put in a much more disappointing performance than Murphy, who did nothing. And as squad players the Academy players are infinitely preferable. They are here. They are cheaper.

Games are important, but being regularly involved in Championship match day squads and getting a dozen sub appearances and half a dozen starts in the Championship, is going to be as good development as getting 20 or 30 starts in L1 training and playing with and against lesser players.

Yeah exactly I'm not saying being let go I'm saying loan them out.

As I've mentioned above, judging off one game where players are at different stages isn't exactly the best sample to go by.

You've literally mentioned half a dozen players above who all excelled by dropping down a division, developing, impressing and working their way up, not being thrown into a situation/level they perhaps weren't ready for, Jake Cooper himself is probably a good example of that. Development happens by playing and impressing at a level players can cope with first, you don't throw a learner swimmer in at the deep end straight away without armbands and say sink or swim do you.

Players we should have used and brought through and benefited from, not let go.

[Snowflake Royal]

Not at cb though. Holmes has been preferred there

Because McIntyre could fill in elsewhere. That doesn't mean that if we have first choice LB / DMs he'll be left out in preference of Holmes.

If anything, being willing to use him out of position is a sign he's more trusted.

If we sign a specialist cb we will find out but I doubt Ince would want to change cb's unless they were performing poorly
Holmes has the cb berth at the moment

We use two mate.

[Zip]

Because McIntyre could fill in elsewhere. That doesn't mean that if we have first choice LB / DMs he'll be left out in preference of Holmes.

If anything, being willing to use him out of position is a sign he's more trusted.

If we sign a specialist cb we will find out but I doubt Ince would want to change cb's unless they were performing poorly
Holmes has the cb berth at the moment

We use two mate.

Hutchinson will be one of the cb's
My post should have said if we sign a specialist left back
Besides think of what this is doing for your thread page count master Royal

[Snowflake Royal]

If we sign a specialist cb we will find out but I doubt Ince would want to change cb's unless they were performing poorly
Holmes has the cb berth at the moment

We use two mate.

Hutchinson will be one of the cb's
My post should have said if we sign a specialist left back
Besides think of what this is doing for your thread page count master Royal

That plus the heat is the only reason I pushed you to justify your view - I'm afraid you've definitely failed to satisfy. Good to have you on record as saying that Hutch and Holmes will definitely be preferred to McIntyre at CB though.

And because I was trying to enlighten young master YR. I fear that is a lost cause though

[Zip]

We use two mate.

Hutchinson will be one of the cb's
My post should have said if we sign a specialist left back
Besides think of what this is doing for your thread page count master Royal

That plus the heat is the only reason I pushed you to justify your view - I'm afraid you've definitely failed to satisfy. Good to have you on record as saying that Hutch and Holmes will definitely be preferred to McIntyre at CB though.

And because I was trying to enlighten young master YR. I fear that is a lost cause though

The starting line up v Brighton should give a good indication of the side likely to start v Blackpool