Back from the game , Swansea home,

[Millsy]

For people to criticise Long or Church and say they are "not strikers" is plain stupid.

Agreed. They are strikers. Just not very good ones.

If we are going to insist on playing this 4-5-1 I'd return Church into the team and play him in the hole. His movement is his best asset, his finishing is the worst aspect of the game. A striker whose worst quality is his finishing - sums us up really

Well said.

[Stranded]

For people to criticise Long or Church and say they are "not strikers" is plain stupid.

Agreed. They are strikers. Just not very good ones.

If we are going to insist on playing this 4-5-1 I'd return Church into the team and play him in the hole. His movement is his best asset, his finishing is the worst aspect of the game. A striker whose worst quality is his finishing - sums us up really

At the moment, I would say if I'd played 11 games in the Championship this year and been able to take a penalty, I'd have as many goals as Shane Long has this season.

[Royalee]

To those who asked why Rodgers didn't get Sinclair for us last year, I think he probably tried, but Sinclair and Chelsea were looking for a Premiership loan deal to test him at that level.

He ended up at Wigan for the whole season, didn't make an impact, and then Chelsea obviously decided he wasn't going to make it.

£££££ was probably more to do with it, or to put it more bluntly, our chairman.

[Stranded]

To those who asked why Rodgers didn't get Sinclair for us last year, I think he probably tried, but Sinclair and Chelsea were looking for a Premiership loan deal to test him at that level.

He ended up at Wigan for the whole season, didn't make an impact, and then Chelsea obviously decided he wasn't going to make it.

£££££ was probably more to do with it, or to put it more bluntly, our chairman.

No more to do with what HB said, or are you conveniently forgetting the money Rodgers did spend?

[Hoop Blah]

To those who asked why Rodgers didn't get Sinclair for us last year, I think he probably tried, but Sinclair and Chelsea were looking for a Premiership loan deal to test him at that level.

He ended up at Wigan for the whole season, didn't make an impact, and then Chelsea obviously decided he wasn't going to make it.

£££££ was probably more to do with it, or to put it more bluntly, our chairman.

I doubt the money came into it all.

The lad had already been on loan in the lower leagues and had to prove he could do it in the Premier. There would've been no point in moving to a Championship side last season.

[Kitson12]

To those who asked why Rodgers didn't get Sinclair for us last year, I think he probably tried, but Sinclair and Chelsea were looking for a Premiership loan deal to test him at that level.

He ended up at Wigan for the whole season, didn't make an impact, and then Chelsea obviously decided he wasn't going to make it.

£££££ was probably more to do with it, or to put it more bluntly, our chairman.

Get your facts straight m8.

[Sarah Star]

For people to criticise Long or Church and say they are "not strikers" is plain stupid.

Agreed. They are strikers. Just not very good ones.

If we are going to insist on playing this 4-5-1 I'd return Church into the team and play him in the hole. His movement is his best asset, his finishing is the worst aspect of the game. A striker whose worst quality is his finishing - sums us up really

Why not play Long there? Everything you've just mentioned about Church could apply equally to him.

[Maguire]

In all seriousness, why play 4-5-1 at all when our "1" won't score any goals and our talismanic fifth midfielder now plays in Germany?

Seems a bit weird to pick a team that suits your formation rather than a formation that suits your team. We simply don't have a replacement for Sigurdsson and sticking the portly Brian Howard there won't work any more than the fleet-footed McAnuff.

McDermott is running his side like Rodgers used to at the moment. I advocate a second back to basics approach - 442 with Kebe and Jobi on the flanks and two of our useless bunch up top to let them play themselves into form.

[Snowball]

At the moment, I would say if I'd played 11 games in the Championship this year and been able to take a penalty, I'd have as many goals as Shane Long has this season.

Would you have WON the two penalties?

[Snowball]

4-4-2 best IMO


Griffin-Pearce-Mills-Harte
Zurab & Tabb
Kebe McAnuff/HRK
Hunt-Long

[floyd__streete]

Just seen the goal on the beeb. Mills - who was woeful against Ipswich last time out - lets Sinclair in behind him but it appears to be Griffin playing the Swansea man onside. Very poor goal conceded.

[Alan Partridge]

At the moment, I would say if I'd played 11 games in the Championship this year and been able to take a penalty, I'd have as many goals as Shane Long has this season.

Would you have WON the two penalties?

The two v Palace certainly were WON as well.

[Z175]

I think you mean that if Tom Daley had played 11 games up front this season then he would have as many goals as Shane Long.

However he probably wouldn't have had the sheer presence up front to bully Leicester defenders off the ball and constantly play in Kebe and thus we probably wouldn't have spent all this season higher in the league than we were for nearly all of last seasons. He may well have been a bit mouthy to the ref too though.

[Maguire]

Swansea were better than a lot of people on here give them credit for as well. Solid away performance. Didn't give much away, played a bit of football and created all the best chances.

[Stranded]

At the moment, I would say if I'd played 11 games in the Championship this year and been able to take a penalty, I'd have as many goals as Shane Long has this season.

Would you have WON the two penalties?

Snowball in unable to spot tounge in cheek comment shocker.

[Man Friday]

Just seen the goal on the beeb. Mills - who was woeful against Ipswich last time out - lets Sinclair in behind him but it appears to be Griffin playing the Swansea man onside. Very poor goal conceded.

From my recollection Sinclair was level with Mills when ball was played so Griffin's position was/is irrelevant bit I'll take another look. Agreed that it was a poor goal to conceed as very pub footballish.

[brendywendy]

Kebe seemed unwilling to knock the ball behind the full back and run after it on Saturday, which is when he is at his best.

He's also at his best going outside, not cutting in on his left foot IMO - as he did on several occasions on Saturday, as well as other games recently.

most frustrating part of the malian peles game for me that.


also his inability to start the run as soon as the player with the ball looks up to see if its on, instead he always comes back for it, instead of just running.

[brendywendy]

The came about because Swansea were very good at this 'tippy tappy' going nowhere football people keep moaning about. What they seem to fail to realise is that tippy tappy stuff pulled us out of shape and position and created the opportunity for a good ball to be played through onto the end of a good run.

didnt say i didnt realise it pulled us around, and created the space for the goal.
just said i cant stand watching it tbf

[Alan Partridge]

The came about because Swansea were very good at this 'tippy tappy' going nowhere football people keep moaning about. What they seem to fail to realise is that tippy tappy stuff pulled us out of shape and position and created the opportunity for a good ball to be played through onto the end of a good run.

didnt say i didnt realise it pulled us around, and created the space for the goal.
just said i cant stand watching it tbf

Same.

Would anyone seriously have enjoyed Swansea's season last year? Having 70% posession every game and scoring 40 goals all year?

No Fanks.

[Dave the rave]

Very frustrating game to watch on lots of levels.
We could still be playing now and we wouldn't have scored but you get games like that.
Nothing clicked.

Main gripes were poor crossing and the fact that often the wrong cross was played.
We've always had a problem with players not getting into various positions in the box - highlighted by the number of times Kebe had to fetch the ball from the opposite corner flag after corners.

We also lack the nous to have that one player who can come from midfield to be an option on the edge of the box when we're crossing.

The steak ciabattas in the executive boxes are nice though.