Steve Clarke Sacked

[Ascotexgunner]

Hallef*ckinglullyah....Just heard.
WD the board for acting quickly. Clearly something was badly wrong and looking at our form it was pretty unrectafiable.

Coppell there last night for SJM's 25 years clearly started tongues wagging.

Incredible that only 8ish games ago we looked nailed on automatic promotion. Ive never seen form dip so badly so quickly.

[CountryRoyal]

Hallef*ckinglullyah....Just heard.
WD the board for acting quickly. Clearly something was badly wrong and looking at our form it was pretty unrectafiable.

Coppell there last night for SJM's 25 years clearly started tongues wagging.

Incredible that only 8ish games ago we looked nailed on automatic promotion. Ive never seen form dip so badly so quickly.

I don't know, Middlesbrough's a couple of seasons ago was pretty spectacular.

[From Despair To Where?]

Can only echo most comments on here, Clarke's position was more and more untenable in the light of the Fulham nonsense and, as hinted at by Nigel Howe a month ago, it would have needed an immediate and spectacular upturn in form to make it past Christmas. I don't like the sacking culture but I think in both cases, the Thais have had no real option and acted quickly and decisively. I'm pretty sure they've got someone lined up.

Pearson seems the stand out candidate from a less than stellar list of possibles. The real pisser is that had he buggered off a month ago, we'd have pocketed some compensation and been in with a shout at getting Hasselbaink.

[Westwood52]

Moyes would be lovely but not particularly realistic. Sky Bet Odds:

Nigel Pearson 10/11
Gary Rowett 5/1
Martin Kuhl 8/1
Gary Bowyer 8/1
Phil Parkinson 8/1
Tim Sherwood 12/1
Brian McDermott 12/1
Steve Coppell 16/1
Kevin Keen 16/1
Oscar Garcia 20/1
Paul Tisdale 20/1
Alex McLeish 20/1
Malky Mackay 20/1
Slavisa Jokanovic 20/1
David Moyes 20/1
Gus Poyet 20/1
Sean O'Driscoll 20/1
Neil Warnock 20/1
Chris Powell 25/1
Harry Redknapp 25/1
Uwe Rosler 25/1
Alan Curbishley 33/1
Stuart Gray 33/1
Brendan Rodgers 33/1
Ian Holloway 33/1
Gary McAllister 33/1
Nigel Adkins 33/1
Billy Mckinley 33/1
Paul Dickov 33/1
Alan Stubbs 40/1

Strange-Justin Edinburgh not on the list ?

[No Fixed Abode]

Can only echo most comments on here, Clarke's position was more and more untenable in the light of the Fulham nonsense

Which only goes to show how uneducated those people are about football. I was told Fulham made it public, so Clarke should bear no responsibility for it. We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

[No Fixed Abode]

Moyes would be lovely but not particularly realistic. Sky Bet Odds:

Nigel Pearson 10/11
Gary Rowett 5/1
Martin Kuhl 8/1
Gary Bowyer 8/1
Phil Parkinson 8/1
Tim Sherwood 12/1
Brian McDermott 12/1
Steve Coppell 16/1
Kevin Keen 16/1
Oscar Garcia 20/1
Paul Tisdale 20/1
Alex McLeish 20/1
Malky Mackay 20/1
Slavisa Jokanovic 20/1
David Moyes 20/1
Gus Poyet 20/1
Sean O'Driscoll 20/1
Neil Warnock 20/1
Chris Powell 25/1
Harry Redknapp 25/1
Uwe Rosler 25/1
Alan Curbishley 33/1
Stuart Gray 33/1
Brendan Rodgers 33/1
Ian Holloway 33/1
Gary McAllister 33/1
Nigel Adkins 33/1
Billy Mckinley 33/1
Paul Dickov 33/1
Alan Stubbs 40/1

Strange-Justin Edinburgh not on the list ?

Why would he move to Reading if he's just moved to Scotland?

[strap]

Can only echo most comments on here, Clarke's position was more and more untenable in the light of the Fulham nonsense

Which only goes to show how uneducated those people are about football. I was told Fulham made it public, so Clarke should bear no responsibility for it. We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

Once again someone compares apples with pairs. There is no way a job managing a football club on a fixed term contract compared with us mere mortals in normal jobs.

If you think the Scottish Charlatan was the victim here, let me put this to you:

RFC have a manager in place 1 year into a 2.5 years contract. They hear that Jurgen Klopp isn't too happy at Liverpool so they ask permission to speak to him. This is granted. The board speak to him, but decide that he is too expensive and therefore decide to stick with the Scottish Charlatan, who offers us the best route to success for now.

How do think the Scottish Charlatan would have reacted to THAT?! He would have thrown his toys out of the cot, no doubt start constructive dismissal proceedings or any other manner of things. Yet when HE does it, he's being "professional", "trying to do the right thing for himself" etc etc.

No, no, no sunny jim, there is no way the Scottish Charlatan is the victim here, and merely shows up YOUR non-educated thought process.

[melonhead]

Can only echo most comments on here, Clarke's position was more and more untenable in the light of the Fulham nonsense

Which only goes to show how uneducated those people are about football. I was told Fulham made it public, so Clarke should bear no responsibility for it. We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

whether it was him who let it out into the public or someone else isn't the point
its the fact it came out.


id happily chat to anyone who offered me a job to look at whether the over all package was better than current one, and that's all he did.
but if I came back to work and it somehow got out that id been courting other companies, id expect a little bit of a downgrading of my standing within the company*
this is obviously spoken in the voice of someone who actually contributes something to his company, and not me.

[Extended-Phenotype]

We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

And if we were a contract worker who could only work one client at a time, client 'A' would be well within their rights to be unhappy if after only a short time into a contract (which saw them paying a lot for materials up front), their contractor considered ditching them for client 'B'.
 
It’s a little more advanced but once you think about it in more detail and draw the right comparisons, it will make sense to you.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Can only echo most comments on here, Clarke's position was more and more untenable in the light of the Fulham nonsense

Which only goes to show how uneducated those people are about football. I was told Fulham made it public, so Clarke should bear no responsibility for it. We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

whether it was him who let it out into the public or someone else isn't the point
its the fact it came out.


id happily chat to anyone who offered me a job to look at whether the over all package was better than current one, and that's all he did.
but if I came back to work and it somehow got out that id been courting other companies, id expect a little bit of a downgrading of my standing within the company*
this is obviously spoken in the voice of someone who actually contributes something to his company, and not me.

And you are comparing permanent employment with contract employment, which is disingenuous to begin with.

[sputnik]

Just read the gr8 news here. It was time to go the minute he even considered going to Fulham.
Good riddance.

[melonhead]

Which only goes to show how uneducated those people are about football. I was told Fulham made it public, so Clarke should bear no responsibility for it. We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

whether it was him who let it out into the public or someone else isn't the point
its the fact it came out.


id happily chat to anyone who offered me a job to look at whether the over all package was better than current one, and that's all he did.
but if I came back to work and it somehow got out that id been courting other companies, id expect a little bit of a downgrading of my standing within the company*
this is obviously spoken in the voice of someone who actually contributes something to his company, and not me.

And you are comparing permanent employment with contract employment, which is disingenuous to begin with.

as is your comparison of normal labour markets with football labour markets

[Muskrat]

Will now walk into the Fulham job and watch them fly...

[blueroyals]

Will now walk into the Fulham job and watch them fly...

Apparently they don't want him now

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11673/10088575/fulham-will-not-talk-to-steve-clarke-about-managers-job-sky-sources?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[One8Seven1*]

Will now walk into the Fulham job and watch them fly...

What I'm expecting, but they have apparently distanced themselves from wanting to talk to him..

[Y21]

Will now walk into the Fulham job and watch them fly...

Can't see them going for him now, tbh.

It's like going back to the one night stand and asking them to marry you when the missus finds out you've had a one night stand and kicks you out.

Kinda.

I dunno, but if I was Fulham, I wouldn't want him now.

[Extended-Phenotype]

as is your comparison of normal labour markets with football labour markets

No, my comparison is way more appropriate. Maybe a different kind of apple, but yours isn't even a fcukin fruit.

[No Fixed Abode]

We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

And if we were a contract worker who could only work one client at a time, client 'A' would be well within their rights to be unhappy if after only a short time into a contract (which saw them paying a lot for materials up front), their contractor considered ditching them for client 'B'.
 
It’s a little more advanced but once you think about it in more detail and draw the right comparisons, it will make sense to you.

But it wasn't Clarke that made it public, which is the key here. Contract worker or not. I've done contract work before it didn't stop me seeking out another job. I just didn't tell anybody.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Can only echo most comments on here, Clarke's position was more and more untenable in the light of the Fulham nonsense

Which only goes to show how uneducated those people are about football. I was told Fulham made it public, so Clarke should bear no responsibility for it. We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

Clarke always had the option of saying "No I don't want to talk to them I'm happy here". Personally, as someone with a bit of integrity, I wouldn't even entertain the idea after less than a year somewhere as it doesn't look good on your CV.

You're just piping up because he is ex-Chelsea at the end of the day... If Jose had talks to go to Man U & then it fell through because of greediness, doubt you'd be singing his praises when he came snivelling back.

Clarke himself has created this situation. To be honest, this whole scenario shows the guy is a grade A tw@t & not to be trusted as he knew this would be the likely outcome once he opted to speak to them. He gets a nice pay off, gets a 'better' job with more money & then no compo paid for him. He's acted like a complete fcuking snake and in the process has p*ssed off some decent people who took a chance on him & backed him.

Fcuk him & he will get deservedly booed if he ever turns up managing the opposition.

[No Fixed Abode]

Can only echo most comments on here, Clarke's position was more and more untenable in the light of the Fulham nonsense

Which only goes to show how uneducated those people are about football. I was told Fulham made it public, so Clarke should bear no responsibility for it. We'd all potentially look at other jobs if it meant earning more money.

I wouldn't even entertain the idea after less than a year somewhere as it doesn't look good on your CV.

Yeah. Imagine someone offering you, say 5k a week more - I'd definitely turn that down because it would look bad on my CV.