Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Thomas L'Heureux » 28 Sep 2011 13:02

Speroni, Stockdale, Myhill, Camp, Schmeichel, James, to name just half-a-dozen better...

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by sandman » 28 Sep 2011 13:03

Thomas L'Heureux Speroni, Stockdale, Myhill, Camp, Schmeichel, James, to name just half-a-dozen better...


:lol:

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Thomas L'Heureux » 28 Sep 2011 13:04

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Thomas L'Heureux Speroni, Stockdale, Myhill, Camp, Schmeichel, James, to name just half-a-dozen better...


:lol:

Change him for Green if you wish. The point still stands though.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by rhroyal » 28 Sep 2011 13:09

If Federici is as good as all his fans say, why did nobody come in for him over the summer? Especially after his comments; he would have been an easy signing for a Premiership team to secure.

I'll tell you why nobody came in for him; he's a Championship keeper. A decent one too. Some people think McCarthy is a potential Premier League keeper in waiting. I haven't seen him enough to judge, but to suggest that Federici is better than the likes of Green and Myhill is wrong in my view. A Premiership club would sooner go after those 2. Top 6 keepers maybe.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by URZZZZZZZZ » 28 Sep 2011 13:11

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Royal Rother With a combined 50 years involved in football as player, scout, coach and manager I think I'd probably have to side with BM and AW over you and BF on this one.


Agreed. We saw Mccarthy's weaknesses at Charlton. I love how a lot of this board believe he'll come in and be a better choice.


Whereas Federici has shown us his weaknesses every game this season.


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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Terminal Boardom » 28 Sep 2011 13:11

And Frankie Fraser at Derby? He is good but not the best. Will he be as good as Hahnemann though? Does he have the psyche?

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Thomas L'Heureux » 28 Sep 2011 13:13

rhroyal If Federici is as good as all his fans say, why did nobody come in for him over the summer? Especially after his comments; he would have been an easy signing for a Premiership team to secure.

I'll tell you why nobody came in for him; he's a Championship keeper. A decent one too. Some people think McCarthy is a potential Premier League keeper in waiting. I haven't seen him enough to judge, but to suggest that Federici is better than the likes of Green and Myhill is wrong in my view. A Premiership club would sooner go after those 2. Top 6 keepers maybe.

I've just looked at the Premier League table, and I'd suggest there are only three teams in the division which Federici could even potentially be better than their number ones, and that is Norwich, QPR, and Wolves. He's nowhere near the quality of the rest. Even QPR is me clutching at straws because by-and-large, Kenny is steady.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Whore Jackie » 28 Sep 2011 13:14

The biggest irritation with Federici (and previously Hahnemann) is their weakness at controlling their area. AP's defended him before, but I think much of the blame must lie with Bibbo for that. We seemingly have the meekest Australian and American sportsmen in history.

FWIW, I thought Luke Steele was terrific earlier this season.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Royal Rother » 28 Sep 2011 13:17

johnnym i would agree that he's not the best keeper at the club, that is clearly McCarthy.


Potentially maybe yes, but clearly McDermott doesn't see it like that at the moment.

Or do you think he might be giving him game time in the hope he performs well enough to put him in January's shop window perhaps? I suppose it's not beyond the realms of possibility but seems pretty unlikely BM would select his 11 with that in mind.


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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Svlad Cjelli » 28 Sep 2011 13:19

I think it's easier for BMc to keep it as it is - dropping Feds would be a real slap in the face for him, so keeping the younger, less-experienced McCarthy as second choice is easier in terms of man-management.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Whore Jackie » 28 Sep 2011 13:24

The other criticism of Feds is his tempo. His biggest strength when he first came into the team was the accuracy of his kicking and the pace at which he turned defence into attack. There’s obviously been a slight change of emphasis as the forwards have moved-on, but I can’t see the reason for him to be as sluggish as he is now.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by chippc » 28 Sep 2011 13:25

He certainly looked one of the best last night when without his performance we would have been dead and buried. Royals fans should acknowledge a great performance.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by sandman » 28 Sep 2011 13:26

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:lol:

Change him for Green if you wish. The point still stands though.


Green is just trading on his name now and has been sh1t since the WC, Schmeichel the same except he's trading on his fathers reputation, Myhill, maybe 4 years ago, Camp of the boil for the last 6-7 months, Stockdale has promise but it was only a few weeks ago that he conceded 12 goals in 2 games and technically he isn't a Championship Keeper. Speroni is the only one I'd really rate in that list atm but he's capable of the odd howler as well, which I suppose makes him a typical South American Keeper and also a bit like Feds.


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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by The Rouge » 28 Sep 2011 14:03

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Agreed. We saw Mccarthy's weaknesses at Charlton. I love how a lot of this board believe he'll come in and be a better choice.


Agreed.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Terminal Boardom » 28 Sep 2011 14:15

Whore Jackie The other criticism of Feds is his tempo. His biggest strength when he first came into the team was the accuracy of his kicking and the pace at which he turned defence into attack. There’s obviously been a slight change of emphasis as the forwards have moved-on, but I can’t see the reason for him to be as sluggish as he is now.


Is it just me or does Feds look like a fat lump of lard?

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by FiNeRaIn » 28 Sep 2011 14:36

Not sure if srs

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Alan Partridge » 28 Sep 2011 16:21

Camp, Schmeichel, Stockdale, Gilks, Fielding, Speroni, Davis, Green (altho i personally think he's cack) you could say with some comfort are > Federici and could realistically be number 1's at Prem level.

I'd put Federici in the same bracket as Lonergan, Murphy, Myhill, Ikeme, Marshall, Steele, Loach, Ashdown, Grant in the middle tier. solid Championship keepers that would all be a 2nd choice at best at Prem level.

With Sullivan (these days), Ankergren, Basso, Jones, James (these days), Forde as keepers that while ok aren't ever going to be better than championship level.

In summary, i'd rate Federici as a decent enough championship keeper. As such he'll have some good days, some bad days but overall you'd give him 6 or 7 out of 10 over the course of the season.

For me McCarthy has more to his game than just making 2 or 3 camera saves. He has a command of the area and a natural ability that is hard to coach. I think given time, games and the opportunity he could become a keeper in that top bracket.

It's a fair point to say who wanted Federici? In the summer he made it very clear he wanted a move to the Prem and there wasn't any interest at all. Even from a couple of the new boys who were actually after keepers.

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by sandman » 28 Sep 2011 17:06

rhroyal If Federici is as good as all his fans say, why did nobody come in for him over the summer? Especially after his comments; he would have been an easy signing for a Premiership team to secure.

I'll tell you why nobody came in for him; he's a Championship keeper. A decent one too. Some people think McCarthy is a potential Premier League keeper in waiting. I haven't seen him enough to judge, but to suggest that Federici is better than the likes of Green and Myhill is wrong in my view. A Premiership club would sooner go after those 2. Top 6 keepers maybe.


So to turn your question around why didn't Green get a move back to the PL and why isn't Myhill back at West Brom as first choice particularly due to their start to the season?

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Royal Rother » 28 Sep 2011 17:19

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Whore Jackie The other criticism of Feds is his tempo. His biggest strength when he first came into the team was the accuracy of his kicking and the pace at which he turned defence into attack. There’s obviously been a slight change of emphasis as the forwards have moved-on, but I can’t see the reason for him to be as sluggish as he is now.


Is it just me or does Feds look like a fat lump of lard?

Bit harsh on yourself there!

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Re: Federici - the best keeper in the Championship?

by Friday's Legacy » 28 Sep 2011 17:49

Svlad Cjelli I think it's easier for BMc to keep it as it is - dropping Feds would be a real slap in the face for him, so keeping the younger, less-experienced McCarthy as second choice is easier in terms of man-management.


does this suggest brian mcdermott doesn't have broad enough shoulders, or a strong enough backbone?

federici was injured and mccarthy stepped in. he impressed, looked a lot more commanding of his area and collecting crosses and with the exception of one or two shakey moments, as any keeper has most weeks, he was outstanding! federici returns to fitness and is still on the bench, he gets a little grumpy and for no fault of his own mccarthy is dropped and federici reinstated as number one.

now it's easy to hide behind the fact that one keeper was more experienced than the other, and we were heading into a challenging part of the season (federici was awful in the final fwiw), but for me it was clear that federici didn't like being kept out of the side, made it known and was put back in the side swiftly to prevent having an unhappy keeper wanting out in the summer.

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