You don't know what you're doing?

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Mad Dog's Ghost » 27 Oct 2009 12:56

Notloyalenough.

Long's fatness and uselessness are not Rodgers' fault (although you have to question the training given the pathetic way we cave in usually in the second half).

What is his fault is blowing £2m ... can you believe it .. £2m on a very average centre back when we were crying out for a decent striker. Until we get a proper, championship-level forward we are utterly screwed.

Hope it happens soon or your littl'uns will be saying in a couple of years: "daddy, were Reading really once in the premiership."

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Hoop Blah » 27 Oct 2009 12:58

We desperately needed a centre half too.

Mills is a long term investment by the club in a highly rated player and was supposed to be AS WELL AS a decent forward, and had we not been trumped by Pompey we would've had both.

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Vision » 27 Oct 2009 13:01

Hoop Blah It was one of our better performances, but then we played quite well against Cardiff and Sheff U at home and still didn't win. I missed the opening game of the season, but I seem to remember many thinking we were unlucky not to win.

That's 3 home games (plus Forest) where, on the balance of play, we've probably been the better side. Unfortunately balance of play counts for very little if you can't get the ball in the back of the net. We have to sort out our options upfront pretty quickly!


You could arguably add Donny to that list as well. You're absolutely right though, we can't keep claiming bad luck and good performances as straws to clutch at when the result doesn't go our way although as a virtually new team being built its certainly a small consolation in the initial stages.

The difference last night though and the encouraging sign I'm hanging onto at present is that we created chances whereas in those other games although we played well and at times dominated possession we didn't really carve out anywhere near as many.

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Hoop Blah » 27 Oct 2009 13:05

That's why I didn't include the Donny game. I thought we played well (against a weaker opposition) but didn't really create much.

In both Sheff U and Cardiff I think we created more chances (maybe not clear cut) or opportunities that we didn't quite capitalise on, but plenty of relegated sides probably say the same!

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Compo's Hat » 27 Oct 2009 13:18

There seems to be a lot of replies from people who only go to the home games on here. If you'd seen how bad the last couple of games were you would understand why his head has been called for, in fact you're probably all baffled. What were you expecting, us all to wait until we get onto hna and moan on here :roll:

If he had to take someone off then Rasiak (a Rodgers signing) should of come off and how Howard (another Rodgers signing) never gets taken off is beyond me. McAnuff (and another) did nothing 2nd half and Kebe had at least looked slightly a threat in the last couple of games, both had worse games then The Sig and then our biggest threat in Marek has only just come back from oblivion, when we've struggled for shots on target where on earth has he been Rodgers you CLUELESS, CLUELESS IDIOT!

But if you want to be patient then i'll see you in League 1, you'll probably still want that clown in charge too!!! Shades of 97-98 are appearing already.


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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Hoop Blah » 27 Oct 2009 13:29

True, I've not watched us away from home this season, but from speaking to those of my mates that have been to most away games they say it's not been too dissimilar to the home form, ie good in patched but not good enough.

I heard the QPR fans were getting on their own teams back because of the way we played for the first half an hour. Newcastle we did ok until we conceeded. Barnsley we were good value for the win and what happened at Peterborough I don't know. We haven't got the mental foritude to handle a set back during a game or to close out a winning position. With the lack of experience and 'leaders' in the side that isn't a massive shock.

At the end of the day we're short on quality. Away from home we haven't got that forward who's going to score you a goal out of nothing, put it on a plate for a team mate or at least trouble the home team enough to take the pressure off the back four. At the back we've got a keeper who is a decent shop stopper at times but is always likely to conceed a bit of a sloppy one, and the defenders infront of him just aren't capable of going to some of the better sides in this league and keeping a clean sheet.

Rodgers is at fault for not strengthen, but his hands have been tied and he is picking up a squad that was ripped to pieces oevr the summer. It's a massive job on his hands, not helped by the fact he's following the clubs most successful manager ever.

I still think he needs time.

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by floyd__streete » 27 Oct 2009 13:42

The decision to take off Church rather than Rasiak was a diabolical one as far as I am concerned, and this is not being wise after the event because I was furious about it at the time. Rasiak was diabolical, what did he offer last night? 6' 3" yet he fails to win most of his headers, he has no pace and very little skill. He was best summed up last night by a typically scrappy passage of play in which he challenged for three headers as the ball bounced around the edge of the Leicester box and - as my mate put it - seemed to lose out on the third aerial challenge to himself :| .

I don't hugely rate Church but at least he was getting into positions to waste so many bloody chances. Note also that we failed to have any further clear cut chances after Church was substituted; we missed his movement. Poor decision from Rodgers I felt at the time and so it proved.

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by brendywendy » 27 Oct 2009 14:06

Hoop Blah We desperately needed a centre half too.

Mills is a long term investment by the club in a highly rated player and was supposed to be AS WELL AS a decent forward, and had we not been trumped by Pompey we would've had both.



club knew bikey was off too, as well as already expecting smith to come in

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by strap » 27 Oct 2009 15:38

Oh, and the little gem that was blaming Tabb, a left sided mifield player, selected at right back by the Bodger, for conceding the goal last night. He only went to the edge of the 6-yard box to pick up some Leicester player who was totally unmarked!! And had he been 6 ft he would have got to the looping header, but being five feet oxf*rd, but being asked by the master tactician to mark a lump of a man fully 6 ins higher and goodness knows how much heavier was physically impossible.

Another thing I've notice from his press bleatings is his constant barrage of he is the right man for the job, only he is right etc. It's always someone else's fault if we lose or concede. The players weren't playing to my plan, and if they did we would have won (e.g. WBA), the fans need a ereality check (after HE was the idiot shouting from the rooftops we'd be challenging for automatic promotion this year!!!), and the most recent cracker - we don't have the right type of players for my systems, (despite him panic buying 5 players who have shown themselves to be worse than what was left after the Madejski asset strip!!!!!)

The Bodger really has no idea about tactics, strategy, man management, or indeed anything other than photocopying Mourinho's Big Book of Football it seems!! That's about all he's good for - the office boy who can operate a photocopier!!


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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Hoop Blah » 27 Oct 2009 15:39

Who was blaming Tabb?

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Uke » 27 Oct 2009 15:41

strap Oh, and the little gem that was blaming Tabb, a left sided mifield player, selected at right back by the Bodger, for conceding the goal last night. He only went to the edge of the 6-yard box to pick up some Leicester player who was totally unmarked!!


Can you point out where he ever said Tabb was to blame?

He said it was one player's responsibility, but he didn't name Tabb.



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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Wycombe Royal » 27 Oct 2009 15:43

Hoop Blah Who was blaming Tabb?

Rodgers did, without naming him, in his post match interview.

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Uke » 27 Oct 2009 15:46

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Hoop Blah Who was blaming Tabb?

Rodgers did, without naming him, in his post match interview.


:roll:

Were there similar corners in the game? Who was on the back post then?
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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Hoop Blah » 27 Oct 2009 15:47

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Hoop Blah Who was blaming Tabb?

Rodgers did, without naming him, in his post match interview.


The interview I heard he said that Ryan, as the player who's worked with him the most, should be the most aware of where he should be and the job he should be doing.

Rodgers has one player on the post. From what Rodgers said in his interview Bertrand was on the wrong post.

How is that blaming Tabb?

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Wycombe Royal » 27 Oct 2009 16:10

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Hoop Blah Who was blaming Tabb?

Rodgers did, without naming him, in his post match interview.


The interview I heard he said that Ryan, as the player who's worked with him the most, should be the most aware of where he should be and the job he should be doing.

Rodgers has one player on the post. From what Rodgers said in his interview Bertrand was on the wrong post.

How is that blaming Tabb?

He didn't mantion a name that I heard in the interview but the rest was as you said and I assumed he was talking about Bertrand, but then everyone on here seems to have singled out Tabb as not doing his job. So I assumed that my assumption was wrong and that he was talking about Tabb.

Anyway that fact remains that someone was supposed to be on the back post and they weren't and it is also apparent that Rodgers has singled out the individual who he holds responsible for that.

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Uke » 27 Oct 2009 16:14

Wycombe Royal Rodgers has singled out the individual who he holds responsible for that.


And that is a good thing.

You could tell in the interview that the person would certainly be made very aware of his mistake

In fact the response was a show of determination and passion from BR that seemed to have been lacking in previous interviews

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Hoop Blah » 27 Oct 2009 16:19

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Wycombe Royal Rodgers has singled out the individual who he holds responsible for that.


And that is a good thing.

You could tell in the interview that the person would certainly be made very aware of his mistake

In fact the response was a show of determination and passion from BR that seemed to have been lacking in previous interviews


I don't like managers doing that in public, it should be kept behind closed doors.

...and WR, do you really put that much weight on the drivel from some of the numpties on here?

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Wycombe Royal » 27 Oct 2009 16:27

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Wycombe Royal Rodgers has singled out the individual who he holds responsible for that.


And that is a good thing.

You could tell in the interview that the person would certainly be made very aware of his mistake

In fact the response was a show of determination and passion from BR that seemed to have been lacking in previous interviews


I don't like managers doing that in public, it should be kept behind closed doors.

...and WR, do you really put that much weight on the drivel from some of the numpties on here?

No I don't, but everyone seemed to be in agreement that Tabb was the one who should have been on that post.

You should know from what I write on here that I rarely agree with anyone.

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Re: You don't know what you're doing?

by Uke » 27 Oct 2009 19:25

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Wycombe Royal Rodgers has singled out the individual who he holds responsible for that.


And that is a good thing.

You could tell in the interview that the person would certainly be made very aware of his mistake

In fact the response was a show of determination and passion from BR that seemed to have been lacking in previous interviews


I don't like managers doing that in public, it should be kept behind closed doors.

...and WR, do you really put that much weight on the drivel from some of the numpties on here?


Agree, but the last line of my post says why I liked it. It's probably time for the players to take some responsibility for their "training resistance" when it comes to the basics

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