The Rant Thread

[Toon Toon Blue army]

PLYMOUTH, FU*KING PLYMOUTH. If we lost 4-1 to Newcastle it would be bad, but fu*king Plymouth FFS. You complete useless bunch of cu*ts. All of you. Fu*k off.

[Berry]

For me its simple, it started when we lost Sidwell, Mad wasnt going to replace him, we had a fantastic season in the Prem and then we needed new blood again, Mad wasnt going to spend any money, in his eyes it was about time the Academy coughed up a player or two, we got relegated, we needed new players, Mad wasnt going to spend any money on new players, he still insisted there were players in the Academy, Coppell went, Rodgers came in, we needed to get some new players in, Mad realising that the Academy wasnt as fruitful as first thought allowed Rodgers a small budget to purchase lower Championship players, the money didnt get you Tommy Smiths but it got you Brian Howards a flawed transfer policy. Rodgers came back for a little bit more as he felt he needed a better quality of player, Mad wasnt going to spend anymore money and he told Rodgers like it or lump it, Rodgers leaves, The one main person in this thread is Mad, there is no money not from him anyway and the new manager will have to make do with lower Championship players or Academy players, Where does this leave the club? League 1

[West_Reading]

Disgusting result. 2009, probably the worst year in Reading FC history in terms of results. Surely 2010 can't be any worse can it? What ever happens, it's clear that we need a new manager. Mcdermott might be a good guy but two points from nine just isn't good enough i'm afraid.

[Wimb]

Schards I certainly agree with you about Coppell. His departure hastened our decline but he was still in charge last season and led the team to a very competitive play-off position. Sure our home form was shocking in the second-half of the season...but our away form was very good.

Coppell also had a fit NHunt, Doyle, Bikey, Shunt, Kitson, Stretch, Rosie, Harper, USA to call on....

[Schards#2]

Every manager makes some mistakes in a season but just look at the club under Coppell and since Coppell. He managed a difficult situation last season and got us to fourth dispite the lack of investment.

Since he left, lesser managers have floundered and the wheels have now completely fallen of. If we don't invest in a competent manager and some competent players in January, relegation is in the bag.

A textbook brick by brick dismantelling of a decent club, and a textbook brick by brick construction of a hotel extention and media centre.

[FiNeRaIn]

Every manager makes some mistakes in a season but just look at the club under Coppell and since Coppell. He managed a difficult situation last season and got us to fourth dispite the lack of investment.

Since he left, lesser managers have floundered and the wheels have now completely fallen of. If we don't invest in a competent manager and some competent players in January, relegation is in the bag.

A textbook brick by brick dismantelling of a decent club, and a textbook brick by brick construction of a hotel extention and media centre.

Could not have put it better. Sad but true.

[PEARCEY]

Schards I certainly agree with you about Coppell. His departure hastened our decline but he was still in charge last season and led the team to a very competitive play-off position. Sure our home form was shocking in the second-half of the season...but our away form was very good.

Coppell also had a fit NHunt, Doyle, Bikey, Shunt, Kitson, Stretch, Rosie, Harper, USA to call on....

Of course he did and yes we should have done better. I know you defend BR to the hilt. Nothing wrong with that Wimb.
I felt BR should have been more his own man and fought Madejski from the on-set by making clear he should not have been expected to accept the sale of so many key players. Rodgers knew what we has was letting himself into. His subsequent constant confusing team selections did him no favours though and to spend so much of his transfer kitty on a central defender who then barely featured was not great management. I felt sorry for him though. It was a very tough assignment and it would have been more appropriate for an experienced manager with more contacts in the game to have been appointed. I hope lessons have been learned.

[strap]

going to get relegated aren't we.

You seen the next few games, christ.

Yes, yes we are. It is sadly gratifying that the majority of Knobbers now accept that this season is going to be awful, as a few enightened people were saying pre-season, despite being slated by all and sundry.

If we finish the season in 20th we will be extremely fortunate. Forget Jan window, we must hope beyond hope that Madejski finally sees sense and sells to someone for a SENSIBLE fee, (the club now cannot be "worth" more than £10M after paying off Madejskli's loans are repaid), before the Summer window opens.

We are a club in free-fall and we need an old head to steady the ship on the managerial front and a couple of old hands in the team.

[Wimb]

Every manager makes some mistakes in a season but just look at the club under Coppell and since Coppell. He managed a difficult situation last season and got us to fourth dispite the lack of investment.

Since he left, lesser managers have floundered and the wheels have now completely fallen of. If we don't invest in a competent manager and some competent players in January, relegation is in the bag.

A textbook brick by brick dismantelling of a decent club, and a textbook brick by brick construction of a hotel extention and media centre.

Could not have put it better. Sad but true.

Oh give up you two.

At the risk of sounding like Royalee you need to take off the SSC tinted glasses.

We paid millions in wages to keep SSC's Premiership quality players and he was given 700k to sign NHunt as well. Christ do you really think we'd be in this position now with the likes of Bikey, Doyle etc?

I'm not calling SSC a shite manager he did well with what he had, but to suggest he's not had a part in the shower of shite situation we have now, or to suggest that he'd magically be doing better with this squad is LOLaughable

[Wimb]

Schards I certainly agree with you about Coppell. His departure hastened our decline but he was still in charge last season and led the team to a very competitive play-off position. Sure our home form was shocking in the second-half of the season...but our away form was very good.

Coppell also had a fit NHunt, Doyle, Bikey, Shunt, Kitson, Stretch, Rosie, Harper, USA to call on....

Of course he did and yes we should have done better. I know you defend BR to the hilt. Nothing wrong with that Wimb.
I felt BR should have been more his own man and fought Madejski from the on-set by making clear he should not have been expected to accept the sale of so many key players. Rodgers knew what we has was letting himself into. His subsequent constant confusing team selections did him no favours though and to spend so much of his transfer kitty on a central defender who then barely featured was not great management. I felt sorry for him though. It was a very tough assignment and it would have been more appropriate for an experienced manager with more contacts in the game to have been appointed. I hope lessons have been learned.

Agreed Pearcy, but at the end of the day he could have fought and fought and fought but there's no way they would have let him keep those players. More to the point financially it would have been an absolute disaster to do so.

BR made plenty of mistakes, he knows it, we know it and the board obviously thought so. But the truth is he was undone far more by a bit of bad luck/lack of investment as much as reliance on cheesy quips and big books of tactics.

He didn't have the Ivar V2003-2008 he didn't have Stretch, he didn't have NHunt fit, Long has bombed to stupid levels, Howard broke his face just when we looked to be doing ok etc etc.

None of that excuses not playing Sig vs Palace, Keeping Ivar in the team too long, not backing his own judgement with Mills or the stupid decision to let Cummings replace Rosie.

The point I'm trying to make is that Coppell made just as many mistakes during an 18 month spell that BR did in his 6 months. The tragic thing is that BR had NO margin for error whilst Coppell can pass of being relegated from the Premiership and not winning at home for 6 months on the back of past glories

[facaldaqui]

[quote="Wimb"]
I'm not calling SSC a shite manager he did well with what he had, but to suggest he's not had a part in the shower of shite situation we have now, or to suggest that he'd magically be doing better with this squad is LOLaughable[/quote]

I don't blame Coppell, except for somehow losing the plot after last January. There is nothing inevitable about our present plight. Even with cost-cutting we should have been able to be a mid-table side, because we still have better resources than teams such as Doncaster, Blackpool, and Barnsley, who are above us. The management--and I include team and club management in that--have simply failed in their duty to provide an adequate and balanced team for playing in this division.

[Toon Toon Blue army]

Coppell also had a fit NHunt, Doyle, Bikey, Shunt, Kitson, Stretch, Rosie, Harper, USA to call on....

Those players literaly look like superstars now and I just couldnt imagine them playing for Reading.

[M Brook]

We are a club in free-fall and we need an old head to steady the ship on the managerial front and a couple of old hands in the team.

James Harper anyone?

[FiNeRaIn]

Yes please, he'd never have let us get to this state.

[RoyalBlue]

We are a club in free-fall and we need an old head to steady the ship on the managerial front and a couple of old hands in the team.

James Harper anyone?

Too expensive and the only reason he isn't an active member of our squad.

[Arch]

I'm not calling SSC a shite manager he did well with what he had, but to suggest he's not had a part in the shower of shite situation we have now, or to suggest that he'd magically be doing better with this squad is LOLaughable

I don't blame Coppell, except for somehow losing the plot after last January. There is nothing inevitable about our present plight. Even with cost-cutting we should have been able to be a mid-table side, because we still have better resources than teams such as Doncaster, Blackpool, and Barnsley, who are above us. The management--and I include team and club management in that--have simply failed in their duty to provide an adequate and balanced team for playing in this division.

It's a big ask to put together a completely new team from scratch. However, there's really no excuse for a day like today. More or less the exact same team put together a creditable performance against City nine days ago, and today they capitulate. There's no character in the team.

[RoyalBlue]

Schards I certainly agree with you about Coppell. His departure hastened our decline but he was still in charge last season and led the team to a very competitive play-off position. Sure our home form was shocking in the second-half of the season...but our away form was very good.

Coppell also had a fit NHunt, Doyle, Bikey, Shunt, Kitson, Stretch, Rosie, Harper, USA to call on....

Of course he did and yes we should have done better. I know you defend BR to the hilt. Nothing wrong with that Wimb.
I felt BR should have been more his own man and fought Madejski from the on-set by making clear he should not have been expected to accept the sale of so many key players. Rodgers knew what we has was letting himself into. His subsequent constant confusing team selections did him no favours though and to spend so much of his transfer kitty on a central defender who then barely featured was not great management.

So why isn't McDermott, who must have played a big part in the signing of Mills, now not playing him either?

[facaldaqui]

That's a good question. It may be that McDermott has decided to bring him in once the incumbents fail. Which they have now. I feel McDermott should have taken more risks.

[Arch]

I felt BR should have been more his own man and fought Madejski from the on-set by making clear he should not have been expected to accept the sale of so many key players.

My impression was that Rodgers wanted all the old guard out. He thought he could build a team in his own image and likeness. Remember, Harper couldn't get a game before he was shipped out. In his own words "my face don't fit".

[PEARCEY]

I felt BR should have been more his own man and fought Madejski from the on-set by making clear he should not have been expected to accept the sale of so many key players.

My impression was that Rodgers wanted all the old guard out. He thought he could build a team in his own image and likeness. Remember, Harper couldn't get a game before he was shipped out. In his own words "my face don't fit".

You may well be right Arch. In which case BR tried to change too much too quickly.