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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by Deadlock » 11 Aug 2010 13:25

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Man Friday Good point. As a matter of interest, did he consult with the lino? (I can't remember.) If he didn't, he needs shooting as he was taking a major risk.


No he didn't consult as he knew the ball was played to the scunny man from a Reading player.....

The fact that the ball deflected off a defender is no reason to overrule an offside decision. I thought you said you were a ref?

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by Wycombe Royal » 11 Aug 2010 13:41

The scorer was onside when the ball was initially played by Forte (I think he was marginally offside when it got deflected). Everything else is irrelevant. The referee got it right and whether that was by luck or by judgement does not matter.

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by coyrls » 11 Aug 2010 15:26

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Man Friday Good point. As a matter of interest, did he consult with the lino? (I can't remember.) If he didn't, he needs shooting as he was taking a major risk.


No he didn't consult as he knew the ball was played to the scunny man from a Reading player.....

The fact that the ball deflected off a defender is no reason to overrule an offside decision. I thought you said you were a ref?


He hasn't told us if he's a "center referee" or a "sideline referee" referred to in the Web site where he got support for his contention that you couldn't be offside if the ball was "passed backwards".

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by TBM » 11 Aug 2010 16:38

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Man Friday Good point. As a matter of interest, did he consult with the lino? (I can't remember.) If he didn't, he needs shooting as he was taking a major risk.


No he didn't consult as he knew the ball was played to the scunny man from a Reading player.....

The fact that the ball deflected off a defender is no reason to overrule an offside decision. I thought you said you were a ref?


:? of course it does

When the original ball was passed the man was onside.......no flag went up
When the deflection happened the man was offside.........flag goes up

The fact the deflection came off a Reading player means it could no way have been offside
If the deflection came off the Scunny player then it would have been offside

Seriously what are people finding so hard about this decision?! :|

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by coyrls » 11 Aug 2010 16:49

I think it's you that seem to be finding something hard about this decision as you've now completely changed your position from when you said:

TBM :|

The fact the ball went backwards by their player means the goal scorer could have been stood on the goal line and not been offside. When it hit the Reading man and went towards our goal it obviously couldn't have been offside.


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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by TBM » 11 Aug 2010 16:57

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Cos the pass was going to the edge of the box, not towards the man in the 6 yard box.......hence he is not active as i’ve already said :roll:

Please explain to me how the ref got it wrong and why you think it was offside?

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by Terminal Boardom » 11 Aug 2010 17:10

It. Was. Not. Offside.

HTH :roll:

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by coyrls » 11 Aug 2010 17:21

TBM :|

Cos the pass was going to the edge of the box, not towards the man in the 6 yard box.......hence he is not active as i’ve already said :roll:

Please explain to me how the ref got it wrong and why you think it was offside?


I don't think the referee got it wrong. I don't think it was offside because the Scunthorpe player was not in an offside position when the pass was made. The player not being active has nothing to do with it, if he had been in an offside position when the pass was made and the ball deflected to him off a Reading player he would have been offside . So I agree the referee made the right decision but the reasons you've give for his decision being right are wrong. By the way you've never said anything about the player not being active before, this is a new variation, the last time (as I quoted) you were saying he couldn't be offside because the ball was passed back.

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by TBM » 11 Aug 2010 17:30

why are you continuing to bring this up, Jay?!

If he was stood offside when the original pass was made then he still wouldn't have been offside, as the pass wasn't intended for him.....when the deflection happened that becomes the "second phase"

Anyway, it wasn't offside, you continue to think it was but i'm off home now - cheerio!


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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by coyrls » 11 Aug 2010 17:41

TBM why are you continuing to bring this up, Jay?!

If he was stood offside when the original pass was made then he still wouldn't have been offside, as the pass wasn't intended for him.....when the deflection happened that becomes the "second phase"

Anyway, it wasn't offside, you continue to think it was but i'm off home now - cheerio!


I'm not saying it was offside (did you read my post)

I'm not Jay

A deflection off a defender does not create a second phase of play.

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by TBM » 11 Aug 2010 18:45

Ok Jay

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by coyrls » 11 Aug 2010 19:02

To help your future refereeing decisions, from page 107 of the Laws of the Game:


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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by Man Friday » 11 Aug 2010 20:01

coyrls To help your future refereeing decisions, from page 107 of the Laws of the Game:


Game, set and match to coyrls.


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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by Man Friday » 11 Aug 2010 20:03

Wycombe Royal The scorer was onside when the ball was initially played by Forte (I think he was marginally offside when it got deflected BOLLOX IT WAS - IT WAS LEVEL). Everything else is irrelevant. The referee got it right and whether that was by luck or by judgement does not matter.

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by TBM » 11 Aug 2010 21:46

lol how is it game set and match when the player wasn't offside until the deflection which came off a Reading player??

If it came off a scunny player as the lino thought then it would have been disallowed

why are you continuing to debate it was a goal :lol:

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by coyrls » 11 Aug 2010 22:33

TBM lol how is it game set and match when the player wasn't offside until the deflection which came off a Reading player??

If it came off a scunny player as the lino thought then it would have been disallowed

why are you continuing to debate it was a goal :lol:


Why are you continuing to not read what is posted?

I am not debating whether it was a goal or not. He was onside it was a goal.

I am debating the spurious reasons that you have been giving for him being onside "the ball was passed backwards", "the player was not active", "the deflection caused a second phase". All wrong.

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by TBM » 11 Aug 2010 23:10

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so why post a screenshot stating that he's penalised for previously being in an offside position.

Just give it up, Jay

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by coyrls » 12 Aug 2010 00:34

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If he was stood offside when the original pass was made then he still wouldn't have been offside, as the pass wasn't intended for him.....when the deflection happened that becomes the "second phase"




That is why

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by TBM » 12 Aug 2010 10:13

but your diagram shows the ball going forward, towards the man who is offside - on Saturday the original pass was going about 12 yards behind the goalscorer intended for another player.

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Re: Back from the game - S****horpe.

by Wycombe Royal » 12 Aug 2010 10:27

Isn't this all irrelevant? The guy wasn't offside. He was being played onside by TWO Reading defenders.

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