Brian: The right decision?

[Extended-Phenotype]

not castigating anyone.
its not always gotta be about you!
i was just saying that i agree with the bloke who said brian achieved alot in his short time here, and im waiting for nigel to achieve things too before rushing to judgement.


when adkins wins the playoffs/takes us up ill have love for him too
just not as much as for brian, as brian was one of our own, and an inherently nicer bloke. imo

none of that means i think hes not currently doing a decent job though.

Not making it about me!

His entire point was that when Nigel achieves 10% of what Brian did, only then is it okay to say he's doing a good job.

Your unconditional agreement of his post appeared to endorse that stupid point; glad you've admitted that mistake.

If someone is doing a good job, they are doing a good job. Doesn't f/cking matter what some other bloke did before him. 5th place in the championship and only 2 losses is, thus far, a good job.

For the record, I also thought and said Brian was doing a good job before he reached play-offs and won leagues.

[Woodcote Royal]

This is genuinely embarrasing stuff.

For all the "know nothings" who rubbished McDermott and are now clinging desperately to Adkins slipping halo, absolutely

Embarassing would be going missing on this thread whilst our results were better and reappearing after a poor result. It's a shame we're not playing Leeds again soon, another victory over McDermott's team would see you scuttle off, like it did last time.

Some of us "scuttle off" because we have more rewarding lives to lead beyond engaging with Grade A twats like you on a regular basis.

And, having stayed away recently throughout results good and bad, getting stuffed 5-2 by the side holding up the entire division seemed like a good point to see if any of the usual suspects had managed to get their heads out of their respective backsides.........................many thanks to you and others for confirming that, by and large, this has not been the case.

Whether or not Adkins gets arguably the best squad this club has ever had back into the top flight, every passing week confirms that he is no superior of the man who got us promoted on a relative shoestring and, a whole season sooner than expected by the man who sacked him.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Some of us "scuttle off" because we have more rewarding lives to lead beyond engaging with Grade A twats like you on a regular basis.

And, having stayed away recently throughout results good and bad, getting stuffed 5-2 by the side holding up the entire division seemed like a good point to see if any of the usual suspects had managed to get their heads out of their respective backsides.........................many thanks to you and others for confirming that, by and large, this has not been the case.

Whether or not Adkins gets arguably the best squad this club has ever had back into the top flight, every passing week confirms that he is no superior of the man who got us promoted on a relative shoestring and, a whole season sooner than expected by the man who sacked him.

Why does he need to be superior? Surely we all just want him and the team to do well?

Can't get my head around how odd people are on this thread.

[Woodcote Royal]

Yep, how odd a concept it is to sack someone with the intention of replacing them with someone who can do a better job.....................I guess if Brian had been wearing a different pair of socks that day he might still be here now.

[Sanguine]

Some of us "scuttle off" because we have more rewarding lives to lead beyond engaging with Grade A twats like you on a regular basis.

...unless Reading have had a bad result. We only lost once (to the league leaders) in your time away. Welcome back, pleased to see you enjoying our recent defeat.

[Woodcote Royal]

We've won one of our last 5 league games (beating the mighty Doncaster ) and, apart from Saturday's nightmare, we failed to beat Barnsley away or 10 man Millwall at home.......................is their no end to the utter sh+te some of you people are willing to post rather than concede that Adkins is currently looking like McDermott's poor relation?

And, as for your childish retort that this gives me some kind of pleasure........................I love paying £400 a year for a seat I've seen 2 games from so far this season, watching a team that you used over achieve now doing the exact opposite

[Sanguine]

We've won one of our last 5 league games (beating the mighty Doncaster ) and, apart from Saturday's nightmare, we failed to beat Barnsley away or 10 man Millwall at home.......................is their no end to the utter sh+te some of you people are willing to post rather than concede that Adkins is currently looking like McDermott's poor relation?

And, as for your childish retort that this gives me some kind of pleasure........................I love paying £400 a year for a seat I've seen 2 games from so far this season, watching a team that you used over achieve now doing the exact opposite

We're 5th.

Your absence happened to coincide with 3 wins, 2 draws and 1 defeat (to the league leaders). 4 wins if we include the Leeds game after which you left us.

I look forward to you disappearing once we get back to winning ways.

[Sanguine]

And this is our best start to a Championship season since 2008/09.

[melonhead]

not castigating anyone.
its not always gotta be about you!
i was just saying that i agree with the bloke who said brian achieved alot in his short time here, and im waiting for nigel to achieve things too before rushing to judgement.


when adkins wins the playoffs/takes us up ill have love for him too
just not as much as for brian, as brian was one of our own, and an inherently nicer bloke. imo

none of that means i think hes not currently doing a decent job though.

Not making it about me!

His entire point was that when Nigel achieves 10% of what Brian did, only then is it okay to say he's doing a good job.

Your unconditional agreement of his post appeared to endorse that stupid point; glad you've admitted that mistake.

If someone is doing a good job, they are doing a good job. Doesn't f/cking matter what some other bloke did before him. 5th place in the championship and only 2 losses is, thus far, a good job.

For the record, I also thought and said Brian was doing a good job before he reached play-offs and won leagues.

you saw the main point as that, i did not. mainly due to the volume of words used to make the point i was agreeing with compared to the last little bit.
but i can see why this may have caused confusion and offer my sincere apologies

[melonhead]

And this is our best start to a Championship season since 2008/09.

this is a good point^^^^

so look at it. and take it in.

[mr_number]

The thing is, Brian understood the importance of sending your customers away on a positive note. When you're eating out, if the starter and the main are pretty average, but the dessert is excellent, and you have a nice digestif, you leave happy, even though most of your time in the restaurant was fairly mediocre. A late goal is like some excellent pudding, and Brian knew this. Nigel hasn't realised the importance of the pudding, and for this reason, I, like the jury, am still OUT on him.

[Extended-Phenotype]

The thing is, Brian understood the importance of sending your customers away on a positive note. When you're eating out, if the starter and the main are pretty average, but the dessert is excellent, and you have a nice digestif, you leave happy, even though most of your time in the restaurant was fairly mediocre. A late goal is like some excellent pudding, and Brian knew this. Nigel hasn't realised the importance of the pudding, and for this reason, I, like the jury, am still OUT on him.

Not convinced that scoring late goals is something Nigel is against and deliberately sets out to avoid, any more than I am convinced it was part of Brian's gameplan.

I think Brian is good at getting average players to play at their best. I think Nigel probably has more sophisticated ideas but by asking average players to carry them out, he is bound to hit the odd stumbling block.

So far, we've looked very good at times but occasionally have gone to pieces. I guess that is the cost of pushing players further.

[Elm Park Old Boy]

And this is our best start to a Championship season since 2008/09.

this is a good point^^^^

so look at it. and take it in.

Well... It isn't exactly a knock-down argument, is it? So our start this season is not as good as the last time we were relegated, but it is better than three others that came after? What does that prove?

[Sanguine]

I was just trying to put some perpsective on our 'appalling' start to the season, seen by those longing for the days of Brian, or calling for Adkins' head.

[melonhead]

And this is our best start to a Championship season since 2008/09.

this is a good point^^^^

so look at it. and take it in.

Well... It isn't exactly a knock-down argument, is it? So our start this season is not as good as the last time we were relegated, but it is better than three others that came after? What does that prove?

5th.
and its adkins out for many.
just lol

[Big Foot]

A Quick summary of BMc reign at Reading:

1st season: Took over with the club in the Championship relegation zone. Lead the club to a 9th place finish, won at Anfield, and went on to make our 1st FAC 1/4 final in over 80 years.
2nd Season: A second succesive FAC 1/4 final including a win at Goodison. Finished 5th in the league, taking us to within 1 game of promotion.
3rd season: Won us The Championship
4th season: made a terrible start having bascially been given very little to spend. Turned it round to pick up 14 points from 7 games, a run that took us out of the PL relegation zone.

All in all, the 2nd most successful manager the club has ever had.

4 (four) games later he was sacked.

All achieved with a style that brought countless late winning goals and had the fans chanting his name pretty much every game bar the last few matches. Not surpirsing considering he'd dome so much for the club in over a decade. Dont ever recall us getting gubbed 5 or 6 during his tenure either. Certainly not to teams bottom of the league or even a division below.

When Nigel Adkins has achieved 10% of that, you can all come back and tell me he's doing a decent job.

(Sorry its taken 114 pages to mention that.)

You forget to mention being awarded Manager of the Month 5 weeks before being unceremoniously sacked.

Getting emotional reading your post, TLM.

[Big Foot]

I think Brian is good at getting average players to play at their best. I think Nigel probably has more sophisticated ideas but by asking average players to carry them out, he is bound to hit the odd stumbling block.

I agree - we've been here before with Adkins though - 4 years ago, with Brendan Rodgers. Adkins is lucky to have inherited a better squad with less attrition than Rodgers had.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Yep, how odd a concept it is to sack someone with the intention of replacing them with someone who can do a better job.....................I guess if Brian had been wearing a different pair of socks that day he might still be here now.

Right, so what are you going to do if he isn't 'superior', then? Hang yourself?

Again - why does he need to be superior for your endorsement? Adkins didn't sack Brian. Surely all he has to do is get Reading performing well and getting results.

5th is pretty good for a team still in development but don't let that stop you being a lonely railfan keeping a pointless running comparison with the man he replaced, whatever that is supposed to achieve.

[SPARTA]

Akpan wants to go out on loan. Another wonder signing by Brian. Last January was such a waste!

[floyd__streete]

All achieved with a style that brought countless late winning goals and had the fans chanting his name pretty much every game bar the last few matches. Not surpirsing considering he'd dome so much for the club in over a decade. Dont ever recall us getting gubbed 5 or 6 during his tenure either. Certainly not to teams bottom of the league or even a division below.

End of thread.