Leicester Vs Reading

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Ian Royal » 14 Aug 2011 15:07

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by FiNeRaIn » 14 Aug 2011 17:08

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Imagine what he could do with a board that actually supported him and gave him resources most other managers have, frightening.


I don't think you get what Reading and our manager are about.

McDermott is best at spotting talent then nurturing and developing it. Young players who want to learn will do very well under him but the high earner, big ego, billy big bollox types who come with a fat fee just aren't his thing.

I would hope he is on a deal where he gets a percentage of the profit we make on selling players as that would reward him for his successes but to suggest he doesn't have the support of SJM because he isn't given a publicly announced transfer budget is pathetic tbh.


How do you know he's best at spotting and nurturing talent and wouldn't be better with funds? You don't, because BMD has never had any funds. The last couple of seasons we've sold our best players and not given our manager money to attempt to fill the gaps they left. Most managers would be quite unhappy with this and generally that's viewed as not supporting your manager...when you sell and don't replace it makes his life harder. Whether that's the right or wrong approach to run a football club is a different discussion. Its only "pathetic" in your eyes because you hate to see the club questioned in any way shape or form.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Ian Royal » 14 Aug 2011 17:21

McDermott was chief scout before manager. Fae, Halford, Matejovsky & Mills don't exactly leap out as great signings.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by FiNeRaIn » 14 Aug 2011 17:26

Ian Royal McDermott was chief scout before manager. Fae, Halford, Matejovsky & Mills don't exactly leap out as great signings.


Hammond and coppell had the big say on those. BMD wasn't manager, how do we know he wouldn't have been able to get more out of them though? Its all speculation, saying he's " best" at spotting and nurturing is not being open minded, he's damn good at it, but how do we know he wouldn't be better with more resources?

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by brendywendy » 14 Aug 2011 18:07

Ian Royal McDermott was chief scout before manager. Fae, Halford, Matejovsky & Mills don't exactly leap out as great signings.
as a scout and picker of players its the ratio of good to bad thats important,and the cost of the flops. You only have to check the record of the greatest,in ferguson,to see that.


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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by brendywendy » 14 Aug 2011 18:10

plus didnt we pretty much make most of our money on those three players? Sir alex cant say that about veron and djemba djemba,and quite a a long list of costly failures.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Ian Royal » 14 Aug 2011 18:59

brendywendy plus didnt we pretty much make most of our money on those three players? Sir alex cant say that about veron and djemba djemba,and quite a a long list of costly failures.


Not really no. Fae, Halford, Matejovsky & Mills cost around £7m - £8m and we sold for about £11m. Compared to say Sigurdsson, Kitson, Long, Shorey & Doyle, who combined cost less than £1m and sold for about £25m. Unless you're saying make back, in which case yes, but we were still lumbered with players who weren't worth what we payed for a while.

I'm in no way saying McDermott is a poor judge, but our record with big signings recently is poor, and he was chief scout at the time, so was the one finding them. Which means there's not a lot of indication that if he was given £2m - £5m to spend on transfers, he'd do a lot better than with what he's got at the moment.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Wimb » 14 Aug 2011 19:18

Match report now up on The Tilehurst End

http://thetilehurstend.co.uk/2011/08/14 ... own-mills/

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Franchise FC » 14 Aug 2011 19:50

brendywendy plus didnt we pretty much make most of our money on those three players? Sir alex cant say that about veron and djemba djemba,and quite a a long list of costly failures.


The difference being that the 'big' clubs can absorb a few failures without risking the long term future.
A few failures at almost every other club could be near fatal.


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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Snowball » 14 Aug 2011 21:00

Ian Royal It's the Griffin who's been pretty poor defensively, certainly by his standards, hasn't had even close to a full pre-season and spent most of the second half of the first game limping.

I'm presuming the "Harte Defence" applies and he should carry on playing regardless of how bad he is defensively, because he helps create a few goals. :wink:


If they can DWDWDW and increase their GD by an average of 1 per game,
92 Points and +46GD by season's end, frankly, they can do what they like

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Woodcote Royal » 14 Aug 2011 21:44

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Just wait till we lose one, though


Spot on. When we win you find out who the real supporters are.......................


Personally I'd say you find out who the real supporters are when things are tough and they stick through those times with their continued support....


I totally agree but in this instance I was agreeing with the original observation in that HNA's resident wrist slitters disappear when the team wins and are all over these pages like a rash when we lose. In other words, being right in predicting little but doom and gloom is more important to them than the teams success. Sorry if that was a little too deep for you.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Woodcote Royal » 14 Aug 2011 21:50

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howser Don't know what it is that McD has got but he continually loses his better players yet still manages to get great results, having lost Mills, Kish and Long, 3 strong players from the second half of last season he shuffles his pack, and picks up a result like this..........brilliant stuff !! Mr Mad you can sell away the team but thank heavens you cant sell the spirit that the manager gets into these players, must be worth a few bob that.


Imagine what he could do with a board that actually supported him and gave him resources most other managers have, frightening.


You mean give him money to spend that we don't have and stuff the consequences? I agree,very frightening.

Thank God we have a Chairman who would sooner shoot himself than adopt the Brown/Balls approach.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by SLAMMED » 14 Aug 2011 22:25

Woodcote Royal adopt the Brown Balls approach.


Sounds painful :shock:


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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by sandman » 15 Aug 2011 11:28

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howser Don't know what it is that McD has got but he continually loses his better players yet still manages to get great results, having lost Mills, Kish and Long, 3 strong players from the second half of last season he shuffles his pack, and picks up a result like this..........brilliant stuff !! Mr Mad you can sell away the team but thank heavens you cant sell the spirit that the manager gets into these players, must be worth a few bob that.


Imagine what he could do with a board that actually supported him and gave him resources most other managers have, frightening.


You mean give him money to spend that we don't have and stuff the consequences? I agree,very frightening.

Thank God we have a Chairman who would sooner shoot himself than adopt the Brown/Balls approach.

No, that's what you interpret it to mean.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Hoop Blah » 15 Aug 2011 11:46

Woodcote Royal I totally agree but in this instance I was agreeing with the original observation in that HNA's resident wrist slitters disappear when the team wins and are all over these pages like a rash when we lose. In other words, being right in predicting little but doom and gloom is more important to them than the teams success. Sorry if that was a little too deep for you.


Really? Who disappears then? Perhaps if it's so clear and obvious you should name names Woodcote.

There are posters that post at different times and that doesn't always include being on at weekends or after a match (a lot of us actually go to games and don't jump on HNA straight away to score points either way).

It's certainly natural for more comment to be passed when things go badly than when everything is running smoothly. Perhaps that concept is a little too complicated or deep for you....

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by brendywendy » 15 Aug 2011 11:48

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Woodcote Royal I totally agree but in this instance I was agreeing with the original observation in that HNA's resident wrist slitters disappear when the team wins and are all over these pages like a rash when we lose. In other words, being right in predicting little but doom and gloom is more important to them than the teams success. Sorry if that was a little too deep for you.


Really? Who disappears then? Perhaps if it's so clear and obvious you should name names Woodcote.

There are posters that post at different times and that doesn't always include being on at weekends or after a match (a lot of us actually go to games and don't jump on HNA straight away to score points either way).

It's certainly natural for more comment to be passed when things go badly than when everything is running smoothly. Perhaps that concept is a little too complicated or deep for you....



alright you massive bunch of homs.

hes clearly talking about people on here like SDR who only turn up when we lose.
i think we all need to take a deep breath, count to ten, and chill the oxf*rd out.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Ian Royal » 15 Aug 2011 12:01

TBH Brenders. Woodcote deserves it for such a self-righteous and hypocritical post playing the "real" fan game, when he threw his toys out the pram and stopped going to games because things took a downward turn for a while.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by brendywendy » 15 Aug 2011 12:07

granted

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by Hoop Blah » 15 Aug 2011 12:52

No need to calm down here, I just think if you're going to post up an opinion, let alone an accusation, you should be willing to back it up.

It's all well and good slating a load of nameless usernames as STGs who don't pipe up when things go well but have the ability to support your post with something a bit substantive if you want any credibility.

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Re: Leicester Vs Reading

by brendywendy » 15 Aug 2011 14:33

SDR SDR SDR SDR hes talking about SDR

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