Time to drop Federici

Time to drop Federici?

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by East Stand Ste » 12 Sep 2011 12:33

starting to agree with this....looked dodgy on sat!

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by roadrunner » 12 Sep 2011 12:39

Should have done better for the free-kick but did little else wrong. Kicking was shambles tho.

McDermott brought Federici back into the side unfairly IMO when McCarthy was playing well and getting better each week, so I just can't see McDermott being ballsy enough to drop him - ever.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by sandman » 12 Sep 2011 12:51

royalsroyalsroyals92 Dont understand need to drop feds.
Makes fantastic saves which i never saw AMc make last season, and is often names as a match winner for us in the press and on BBC Berks.
i like them both, but i believe feds is still better, therefore I'm voting no


I don't understand why people are so in love with McCarthy. He did quite well last season but he let in 3 goals a few times and I always thought he looked like he might concede. He will be a good keeper but the way people are going on about him anyone would think he was Gordon Banks.
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Re: Time to drop Federici

by brendywendy » 12 Sep 2011 12:58

roadrunner Should have done better for the free-kick but did little else wrong. Kicking was shambles tho.

McDermott brought Federici back into the side unfairly IMO when McCarthy was playing well and getting better each week, so I just can't see McDermott being ballsy enough to drop him - ever.


except he was dropped when fit last season, and BMcD has already shown he isnt so sentimental hes afraid to drop anyone if not performing..

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by roadrunner » 12 Sep 2011 13:01

brendywendy
roadrunner Should have done better for the free-kick but did little else wrong. Kicking was shambles tho.

McDermott brought Federici back into the side unfairly IMO when McCarthy was playing well and getting better each week, so I just can't see McDermott being ballsy enough to drop him - ever.


except he was dropped when fit last season, and BMcD has already shown he isnt so sentimental hes afraid to drop anyone if not performing..


Feds lost his place through injury.



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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Simon's Church » 12 Sep 2011 13:20

You're only as good as your last game which would surely mean that if Feds is dropped it would be Andersen to come in?

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by brendywendy » 12 Sep 2011 13:20

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brendywendy
roadrunner Should have done better for the free-kick but did little else wrong. Kicking was shambles tho.

McDermott brought Federici back into the side unfairly IMO when McCarthy was playing well and getting better each week, so I just can't see McDermott being ballsy enough to drop him - ever.


except he was dropped when fit last season, and BMcD has already shown he isnt so sentimental hes afraid to drop anyone if not performing..


Feds lost his place through injury.




but came back from that injury and was still left our for numerous games

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by roadrunner » 12 Sep 2011 15:04

brendywendy
but came back from that injury and was still left our for numerous games


Right, and would have had a long face the whole time. My belief is that McDermott a) wanted to keep the player happy and brought him back in and b) used the fact that Fed's is more experienced to make that change. Either way it was very harsh on McCarthy at the time. He was playing well and looked a lot more assured in controlling his box and claiming crosses than Federici ever did/does.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Hoop Blah » 12 Sep 2011 15:14

The goalkeeper position is a bit different to the rest of the team (obviously).

Most managers will have a keeper they think is the best of those at their disposal. Because you're very unlikely to change that keeper during a game, or be able to maneuver them back in like you can most outfield players, it's part of the keeper lot that they get dropped when the number 1 gets back up to speed again.

I think McCarthy did really well at the end of last season. He had a bit of a shakey start but once he got a little confidence he did well. Having said that though, I don't think McDermott needed a reason to drop him, he just waited for the right time to bring back the keeper he always saw as his first choice. I'm not sure I agree with his decision on who is now the better keeper, but I don't think he was just looking after ego's when he waited to bring Federici back in or when he subsequently did.


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Re: Time to drop Federici

by glass half full » 12 Sep 2011 15:25

Federici will probably go permanently or on loan in the January transferfest, so give McCarthy the reins soon.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by brendywendy » 12 Sep 2011 15:26

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brendywendy
but came back from that injury and was still left our for numerous games


Right, and would have had a long face the whole time. My belief is that McDermott a) wanted to keep the player happy and brought him back in and b) used the fact that Fed's is more experienced to make that change. Either way it was very harsh on McCarthy at the time. He was playing well and looked a lot more assured in controlling his box and claiming crosses than Federici ever did/does.



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Re: Time to drop Federici

by roadrunner » 12 Sep 2011 15:44

glass half full Federici will probably go permanently or on loan in the January transferfest, so give McCarthy the reins soon.


What gives you that idea? Have you had a League 1 tip off? :wink:

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by urz13 » 12 Sep 2011 18:33

McCarthy is NOT better - yet.
Federici conceded a goal every 117.4 mins last season (league only)
Whereas McCarthy conceded every 82.3 mins (league only)
That's a big gap - and McCarthy played teams such as Crystal Palace in his stint and conceded a fair few.
In this case stats dont lie.


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Re: Time to drop Federici

by royalsroyalsroyals92 » 12 Sep 2011 18:59

urz13 McCarthy is NOT better - yet.
Federici conceded a goal every 117.4 mins last season (league only)
Whereas McCarthy conceded every 82.3 mins (league only)
That's a big gap - and McCarthy played teams such as Crystal Palace in his stint and conceded a fair few.
In this case stats dont lie.

Id also say that this stat shows McCarthy up more when you consider he was playing in a confident winning side, where on average Feds conceded less goals while playing in a side who had started the season with many defensive problems and had had a few shakey times

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by sandman » 13 Sep 2011 13:25

How? We got to the play off final with him in the team. It was griff and khizanishvili that messed us up at Wembley.
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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Friday's Legacy » 13 Sep 2011 13:35

sandman How? We got to the play off final with him in the team. It was griff and khizanishvili that messed up up.


and harte, but federici was awful that day as well. it was a standard performance from us for that season. we were very mediocre but for that 8 game winning run, which was a freak run of form.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Ian Royal » 13 Sep 2011 17:25

urz13 McCarthy is NOT better - yet.
Federici conceded a goal every 117.4 mins last season (league only)
Whereas McCarthy conceded every 82.3 mins (league only)
That's a big gap - and McCarthy played teams such as Crystal Palace in his stint and conceded a fair few.
In this case stats dont lie.


They don't give you the full picture either, especially if you use only one statstical measurement.

In terms of partially or wholly being at fault for a goal, they were pretty much making mistakes at the same rate. That's McCarthy who'd played 12 Championship level first team games, and Federici who's played more like 100.

That's based on statistics as well btw, so it must mean they're equally as good, despite McCarthy being far less experienced. Your rules not mine, I prefer opinion supported by stats, rather than stats to create an opinion.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Friday's Legacy » 24 Sep 2011 20:07

having just watched the coventry goal again that should never get past a keeper from that angle. disappointing keeping.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Bandini » 24 Sep 2011 20:14

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by postwhisperer » 24 Sep 2011 20:17

federici is finished. should have brought back hahners. we are doomed.

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