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Re: Matt Mills

by Snowball » 22 Nov 2010 14:36

Hoop wanted me to say, "I dunno, just a feeling..."

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Re: Matt Mills

by Hoop Blah » 22 Nov 2010 14:41

ZacNaloen Hoop, reads more like a supposition rather than a conclusion ;)


Anyway, I think I know what he means by that. He doesn't concentrate from play to play. He's surly, petulant and inconsistent and his inattentiveness means he needs to put heavy last ditch tackles in.

He plays like a teenager I guess you could say, so i'd put it down to a maturity thing.

He's good on his day, but he needs to grow up.


I'd agree with pretty much all of that, it was what was causing it (off field problems being the issue suggested) that I was questioning.

Snowball Hoop wanted me to say, "I dunno, just a feeling..."


Not really no, I was just wondering what it was that led you to that conclusion (as someone with a Psychology background) over and above him just lacking concentration and being a bit of an angry tit who wants to go out of prove something every game.

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Re: Matt Mills

by Snowball » 22 Nov 2010 15:03

Cough - I just sense unhappiness and trying too hard.

Watch highlights, look at his face as he walks out.

If I was to hear he'd broken up with a big-deal GF, I wouldn't be surprised.

I could explain what I mean with a back and forth over a pint, but it would take too much writing

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Re: Matt Mills

by Hoop Blah » 22 Nov 2010 16:14

Snowball Cough - I just sense unhappiness and trying too hard.

Watch highlights, look at his face as he walks out.

If I was to hear he'd broken up with a big-deal GF, I wouldn't be surprised.

I could explain what I mean with a back and forth over a pint, but it would take too much writing


Fair enough, I can see where you're coming from I'm just not sure it isn't his normal state of mind, approach or way of dealing with the pressures of being in a losing or stuggling side.

He has a long history of picking up cards so it doesn't seem to me that he's the most level headed full stop.

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Re: Matt Mills

by Terminal Boardom » 22 Nov 2010 16:44

I have not been impressed when I have seen him play. As soon as he comes up against a lump of a CF he gets bullied very easily and the petulance comes to the fore. Provided Pearce and Kish have a solid game on Saturday, it would be harsh for either to be dropped to make way for Mills.


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Re: Matt Mills

by Victor Meldrew » 22 Nov 2010 18:00

In Snowball's world every player reaches his peak at 27 and improves all the time before that so we can expect Long,Mills,Fed and Pearce to be Premier League standard within the next few years along with Jem and Cummings so nothing to worry about then.
They will all be mature and sensible pros by then and Long and Mills won't be getting sent off any more.
I wish.

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Re: Matt Mills

by Ian Royal » 22 Nov 2010 18:06

Mills has all the physical attributes to be an excellent centreback for us. But everyone is right, there is clearly something missing upstairs. Be it concentration, temperament, general brain power, or a combination of all three.

He was great towards the end of last season, but something is missing this season. And even back then he tended to make stupid and quite cynical fouls. Add that to his less than wonderful 60 yard passing tendency and I personally think he needs some time out the team to get his head straight.

Physically he's a far better player than Pearce in that he has better agility, balance and speed. But Pearce is more reliable and has more up top.

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Re: Matt Mills

by Snowball » 22 Nov 2010 18:50

Victor Meldrew In Snowball's world every player reaches his peak at 27 and improves all the time before that so we can expect Long,Mills,Fed and Pearce to be Premier League standard within the next few years along with Jem and Cummings so nothing to worry about then. They will all be mature and sensible pros by then and Long and Mills won't be getting sent off any more.
I wish.


Of course, which is why I think of Rooney, and Walcott and Michael Owen and Fabregas, and Wilshere.

But they are reasonably rare EXCEPTIONS.

Check the average age of top sides, check the age spread.

Check the average age of players in the Actim Top 100

27

TWENTY-7

20-SEVEN

TWENTY-SEVEN

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Re: Matt Mills

by RoyalJames101 » 22 Nov 2010 19:35

Snowball
Victor Meldrew In Snowball's world every player reaches his peak at 27 and improves all the time before that so we can expect Long,Mills,Fed and Pearce to be Premier League standard within the next few years along with Jem and Cummings so nothing to worry about then. They will all be mature and sensible pros by then and Long and Mills won't be getting sent off any more.
I wish.


Of course, which is why I think of Rooney, and Walcott and Michael Owen and Fabregas, and Wilshere.

But they are reasonably rare EXCEPTIONS.

Check the average age of top sides, check the age spread.

Check the average age of players in the Actim Top 100

27

TWENTY-7

20-SEVEN

TWENTY-SEVEN


20-7? :wink:


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Re: Matt Mills

by Big Foot » 22 Nov 2010 19:42

I am a big Mills fan

HOWEVER, there is one moment which seems to be the moment he has been on the decline since. Coventry at home last season, he cynically chopped down a Coventry player in front of the East Stand and then had a load of argy bargy with Clinton Morrison. He then missed the Cardiff game on the Saturday and since then, he hasn't been the same player he was before.

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Re: Matt Mills

by Winnershroyal » 22 Nov 2010 20:18

Big Foot I am a big Mills fan

HOWEVER, there is one moment which seems to be the moment he has been on the decline since. Coventry at home last season, he cynically chopped down a Coventry player in front of the East Stand and then had a load of argy bargy with Clinton Morrison. He then missed the Cardiff game on the Saturday and since then, he hasn't been the same player he was before.


The home game v QPR last season when he gave it to the East Stand, since then I would say.

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Re: Matt Mills

by RoyalJames101 » 22 Nov 2010 20:51

Winnershroyal
Big Foot I am a big Mills fan

HOWEVER, there is one moment which seems to be the moment he has been on the decline since. Coventry at home last season, he cynically chopped down a Coventry player in front of the East Stand and then had a load of argy bargy with Clinton Morrison. He then missed the Cardiff game on the Saturday and since then, he hasn't been the same player he was before.


The home game v QPR last season when he gave it to the East Stand, since then I would say.


Leicester this season was the only game he's looked like re-capturing his form from last year. He should come good soon though, hopefully :D

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Re: Matt Mills

by SLAMMED » 23 Nov 2010 00:23

Snowball
Victor Meldrew In Snowball's world every player reaches his peak at 27 and improves all the time before that so we can expect Long,Mills,Fed and Pearce to be Premier League standard within the next few years along with Jem and Cummings so nothing to worry about then. They will all be mature and sensible pros by then and Long and Mills won't be getting sent off any more.
I wish.


Of course, which is why I think of Rooney, and Walcott and Michael Owen and Fabregas, and Wilshere.

But they are reasonably rare EXCEPTIONS.

Check the average age of top sides, check the age spread.

Check the average age of players in the Actim Top 100

27

TWENTY-7

20-SEVEN

TWENTY-SEVEN


24?


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Re: Matt Mills

by Snowball » 23 Nov 2010 08:59

24 what?

The average age I have for Actim players (today) is 26 Years 10.5 months, and they'll be over 27 by season's end

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Re: Matt Mills

by TFF » 23 Nov 2010 09:10

Snowball 24 what?

The average age I have for Actim players (today) is 26 Years 10.5 months, and they'll be over 27 by season's end


So that'd be 26 then?

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Re: Matt Mills

by Snowball » 23 Nov 2010 09:31

That Friday Feeling
Snowball 24 what?

The average age I have for Actim players (today) is 26 Years 10.5 months, and they'll be over 27 by season's end


So that'd be 26 then?


No that would be 26 Years and ten-and-a-half-months
and the average age for the whole season will be 27+

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Re: Matt Mills

by TFF » 23 Nov 2010 09:39

Snowball
That Friday Feeling
Snowball 24 what?

The average age I have for Actim players (today) is 26 Years 10.5 months, and they'll be over 27 by season's end


So that'd be 26 then?


No that would be 26 Years and ten-and-a-half-months
and the average age for the whole season will be 27+


26 Years and ten-and-a-half-months = 26

in one and a half months your average will be 27

in one and a half months we will be five months into a nine month season.

I reckon that will make your average age <27

<27 = 26

HTH

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Re: Matt Mills

by Wimb » 23 Nov 2010 10:26

:/ are you really quibiling over a few months... challenging some of Snowball's stats are fair enough but this one isn't exactly misleading

And I might need to go lay down as I've defended the bloke twice today :D

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Re: Matt Mills

by brendywendy » 23 Nov 2010 10:40

snowballs stats>>>>>>>quibbling over snowballs stats

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Re: Matt Mills

by Ian Royal » 23 Nov 2010 12:33

Sorry, what is relevant about the average age of people in the actim index now or at the end of the season? And what does it have to do with Mills playing well below his ability and having a ropey temperament?

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