Back from the match - Barnsley

[John Madejski's Wallet]

I'm sure they know the kind of money that players from other clubs are on.

Whatever, obviously there's no arguing with you. I'm sure you're right; we have millions sitting there just waiting to be spent if it weren't for mean Mr Chairman.

A sure sign you've lost an argument when you completely make up an alternative scenario. We aren't talking about chairman or millions sitting there, you made a statement claiming that we are amongst the highest spenders on wages in the division...we aren't and you have nothing to back it up with other than " the club said so once".

Awful.

Can you prove we aren't?

Just asking....

[winchester_royal]

Where did the club say it...and when?

Also, how do they know the wages structure of every other club?

You'd fit in really well in North korea with your acceptance of blatent propaganda.

I'm sure they know the kind of money that players from other clubs are on.

Whatever, obviously there's no arguing with you. I'm sure you're right; we have millions sitting there just waiting to be spent if it weren't for mean Mr Chairman.

A sure sign you've lost an argument when you completely make up an alternative scenario. We aren't talking about chairman or millions sitting there, you made a statement claiming that we are amongst the highest spenders on wages in the division...we aren't and you have nothing to back it up with other than " the club said so once".

Awful.

Sorry, but no. You've offered nothing to back up your argument.

Awful to you too.

[FiNeRaIn]

Common sense, look at the table, look at the big clubs...look at their squads and look at what they've brought in. Look at us, look at what we've sold, look at our starting 11 today and tell me which of those would be getting paid a big wage. You guys are completely retarded if you think we are anywhere close to the highest wage payers in this division if you look at whats in this league.

[winchester_royal]

Common sense, look at the table, look at the big clubs...look at their squads and look at what they've brought in. Look at us, look at what we've sold, look at our starting 11 today and tell me which of those would be getting paid a big wage. You guys are completely retarded if you think we are anywhere close to the highest wage payers in this division if you look at whats in this league.

Obviously there are 6 or 7 clubs who pay higher wages than us. But they are big clubs who can afford to do so.

[FiNeRaIn]

Common sense, look at the table, look at the big clubs...look at their squads and look at what they've brought in. Look at us, look at what we've sold, look at our starting 11 today and tell me which of those would be getting paid a big wage. You guys are completely retarded if you think we are anywhere close to the highest wage payers in this division if you look at whats in this league.

Obviously there are 6 or 7 clubs who pay higher wages than us. But they are big clubs who can afford to do so.

So you accept we aren't amongst the the biggest wage spenders then if there are at least 6/7 clubs paying more than us? The prosecution rests your honour.

[sandman]

All transfers are a risk. The RTG's always go on and on about how we always sign players like Doyle and Long and how whenever we sign that sort of player they always turn into a success. Strangely enough you never mention the likes of Mooney and Bennett. But then they don't quite fit into your pious little argument do they fellas?

[The Real Sandhurst Royal]

We were beaten today and need to move on ringing some changes along the way to this team which is in need of a quick transformation otherwise it is going to be a long long season for the fans.

McAnuff is not a captain he does not lead the team and can't be heard on the pitch and goes missing for long periods of the game - Appoint Leighterwood now.

Karacan could move to right back, which will give us a useful attacking option down the flank allowing the club to bring in a creative midfielder who can score goals as well...we need this option now as our midfield contribution to the goal count last year was p*ss poor.

McCarthy to get the nod over Federici he dominates the box and is a good a shot stopper.

The defense needs to change, Bongo is not good enough two set piece goals in two game in the middle of the six yard box does bear well for the rest of the season.

A striker up front is required who can hold the ball up, link play up and score goals now. Hunt, Manset and Church can fight for the 2nd striker position.

Obita has been on the bench this season good to see. We are loosing at home again 2nd game into the new season.....let the kid loose he could do no worse than what I watched this season so far.

To the fans who chanted " Spend some fuc*ing money" at the chairman today......have you missed the last decade in which Reading have played their best football in the Championship and Premiership with hardly anything spent.

[LoyalRoyalFan]

To the fans who chanted " Spend some fuc*ing money" at the chairman today......have you missed the last decade in which Reading have played their best football in the Championship and Premiership with hardly anything spent.

This isn't 2006.

We need to spend money now.

[soggy biscuit]

To the fans who chanted " Spend some fuc*ing money" at the chairman today......have you missed the last decade in which Reading have played their best football in the Championship and Premiership with hardly anything spent.

This isn't 2006.

We need to spend money now.

lol

[winchester_royal]

Common sense, look at the table, look at the big clubs...look at their squads and look at what they've brought in. Look at us, look at what we've sold, look at our starting 11 today and tell me which of those would be getting paid a big wage. You guys are completely retarded if you think we are anywhere close to the highest wage payers in this division if you look at whats in this league.

Obviously there are 6 or 7 clubs who pay higher wages than us. But they are big clubs who can afford to do so.

So you accept we aren't amongst the the biggest wage spenders then if there are at least 6/7 clubs paying more than us? The prosecution rests your honour.

Perhaps I worded it slightly wrong. I believe we're around 7th/8th in terms of a wage bill. That's still higher than 2/3 of the division.

[Wycombe Royal]

A shout from the lower west today summed up the first goal perfectly. "Why don't you f***ing come for the ball for once". This was obviously aimed at Federici as he came over to get the ball to take a goal kick.

He heard it and turned and stared at the crowd to see where it came from - he didn't look impressed.

That was the fourth goal we had conceded from inside the 6 yard box. He doesn't command it at all.

McCarthy in please.

[Hoop Blah]

I thought we played ok today, and quite well going forwards at times, albeit against a very ordinary Barnsley side.

The midfield were ok, apart from Legiertwood who looked a shadow of the player we had on loan last year. Kebe caused havoc at times but yet again his final ball was too inconsistent but that's just something we have to live with when it comes to him. McAnuff also had some very good moments before his impact was effectively ended by yet again being moved centrally to try and cover for a lack of credible options in McDermotts squad. Same goes for Karacan who was having a good game until shunted out to right back.

Robson-Kanu had a pretty good game up front too and was involved of most of our good play.

At the end of the day though all our good play was thrown away by poor defending and not having enough about us in the key areas, ie both penalty boxes. We could easily have won this game and papered over the cracks a bit but that wouldn't have meant they don't exist.

I hope McDermott has something up his sleeve as look like they need a boost as much as the fans!

[RoyalBlue]

All you lot will criticise people for having passion and wanting money spent - it's understandable and we need new players. Open your eyes

We could do with some signings yes. But we aren't relegation fodder yet and neither is it time to just splash cash. Asking for signings is fine, demanding to know where all the money has gone and for us to spend millions is less so. Because that points been answered time and time again.

Actually, I'd like to know where the money for Long has gone. These barstewards can't have it both ways. Either they are running the business really well (as we have repeatedly been told), in which case they should not be in a position where they have to repeatedly sell prize assets and use substantial sums of unbudgetted income (cup runs and playoffs) to cover losses/costs, or they aren't doing as good a job as has been made out.

[pea]

That really was terrible,

Harte and Leigertwoods worst games for us, quite easily.

Federici is yet to come off his line and claim a cross in the two games I've seen this season... he's not been terrible but it puts sooo much more pressure on us and an inexperienced CB pairing if we just let balls flash across the box all game.

[paultheroyal]

From the evidence so far this season, Leigertwood is the new John Salako!

[Big Ern]

Secondly We're going to get nowhere with this side.

Except for League 1

[Man Friday]

EP Headline:

"Reading FC due to give Barnsley the chop"

Oh contraire. Having beaten them the last 4 times we've played them, they were due to give us the chop, surely?

[RoyalBlue]

Secondly I'd like John Madejski to either sell the club or spend some money.

Serious question: To who?
Ken Bates, Peter Ridsdale, Sam Hamman, a dodgy arab consortium? A fraudster, someone with poor human rights records?

There simply aren't many people out there interested in buying football clubs that it would be sane to sell to. And anyone we get in has to have at least £500m to their name. It's a very very short list and like selling players, you need someone who wants to buy before you can sell.

Where do you get that figure from? If it's £500M then I suspect that has a lot to do with Madejski asking far too much for the club. Also, are you really saying that everyone who has bought a club in recent years (and they've been quite a few transactions) has a dodgy background and/or would be any worse than the guy currently in charge? You need really want to sell and be prepared to sell it at a price and on conditions that the market considers reasonable if you want to sell a club and I question how Madejski meets those criteria.

I believe the environment that is most likely to see Madejski leave is when the zombies stop applauding on his demand and the media attention he gets is no longer favourable. At that point I suspect there will be a shift in asking price, conditions, and the level the bar is set in terms of the buyer.

[Big Foot]

Love how the most constructive people can be is to say

'SPEND SOME MONEY' or 'SELL UP'

This is real life, not Championship Manager

[RoyalBlue]

Serious question: To who?
Ken Bates, Peter Ridsdale, Sam Hamman, a dodgy arab consortium? A fraudster, someone with poor human rights records?

There simply aren't many people out there interested in buying football clubs that it would be sane to sell to. And anyone we get in has to have at least £500m to their name. It's a very very short list and like selling players, you need someone who wants to buy before you can sell.

I agree with the "who should we sell to" - there are far too many dodgy characters about these days - witness QPR as an example - however, when we are getting millions in, it's not too much to ask to spend a quarter of it on a couple of new players, surely - it doesn't mean JM or anyone else has to put their own hands in their pockets - the money is within the club.

There is not a load of money in the club that can be made available for transfers. The money we've brought in this summer has to be put towards financing the club's running costs in the future.

Which will increase significantly as attendances drop due to the shyte product on offer. And which prize asset(s) goes next season to be replaced by a cheap no hoper in order to finance future running costs?

The RFC model which relies on selling its most valuable and productive assets in order to cover running costs does not match that of other well run businesses. Perhaps Madejski should try selling off some of his most expensive and productive printing presses (I can flog him a cheap John Bull printing set to replace them) and see what that does for the future of those businesses.