Back from the game (FOREST)

[Maguire]

Good to see a manager that can turn a team round and get them doing the right things at the break. Unlike Rodgers. If he was still in charge that would have been 6 or 7-0

The latest in a long, long line of ridiculous anti-Rodgers statements from the HNA massive.

Results have got worse since Rodgers was dismissed - I look forward to you lot explaiong how that's his fault too.

Game - interesting to hear the views on here, most of which seem pretty consistent. Great goalkeeping to keep out those two headers; better than the penalty save.

[Ian Royal]

I'm not surprised we lost. Liverpool and Forest were totally different propositions

[Royal With Cheese]

Good to see a manager that can turn a team round and get them doing the right things at the break. Unlike Rodgers. If he was still in charge that would have been 6 or 7-0

The latest in a long, long line of ridiculous anti-Rodgers statements from the HNA massive.

Results have got worse since Rodgers was dismissed - I look forward to you lot explaiong how that's his fault too.

Game - interesting to hear the views on here, most of which seem pretty consistent. Great goalkeeping to keep out those two headers; better than the penalty save.

Can't see your problem with it Mags. My point is that on anumber of occasions, Rodgers actually managed to turn winning situations into losing ones at half time. McDermott doesn't seem to have that issue. That and he doesn't talk bollocks.

[Ian Royal]

Results are actually just back to where they were for most of the season under Rodgers right now, and there were signs that his improvement before he got the boot had already faltered and was possibly going to dip again.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

In McD's defence....... once again he made a substitution and team change that had a positive effect on the game. He can obviously read a game very well

Just a shame we were'nt in it first half

[Royalee]

Results are actually just back to where they were for most of the season under Rodgers right now, and there were signs that his improvement before he got the boot had already faltered and was possibly going to dip again.

21 points from 21 games = 1 point per game...

2 points from 4 games = 0.5 points per game

Hope this helps Ian.

Spot on Maguire, I'm actually prepared to give McDermott a chance and yesterday's result hasn't really influenced my opinions as we were always likely to get beaten, but some of the anti-Rodgers crap from the usual culprits is cringeworthy.

[Royalee]

Good to see a manager that can turn a team round and get them doing the right things at the break. Unlike Rodgers. If he was still in charge that would have been 6 or 7-0

The latest in a long, long line of ridiculous anti-Rodgers statements from the HNA massive.

Results have got worse since Rodgers was dismissed - I look forward to you lot explaiong how that's his fault too.

Game - interesting to hear the views on here, most of which seem pretty consistent. Great goalkeeping to keep out those two headers; better than the penalty save.

Can't see your problem with it Mags. My point is that on anumber of occasions, Rodgers actually managed to turn winning situations into losing ones at half time. McDermott doesn't seem to have that issue. That and he doesn't talk bollocks.

LOL, so it's more acceptable to play shit in the first half than the second if results are identical (or worse at the moment with McDermott). Your brain must be made of cheese with that logic, you don't get extra points for which half you play well in.

[ZacNaloen]

In McD's defence....... once again he made a substitution and team change that had a positive effect on the game. He can obviously read a game very well

Just a shame we were'nt in it first half

It's his game preperation that needs some work on current evidence. All's well and good being able to turn a game round with your changes, but it's not much help if you've already lost the game in the first half.

[Ian Royal]

The latest in a long, long line of ridiculous anti-Rodgers statements from the HNA massive.

Results have got worse since Rodgers was dismissed - I look forward to you lot explaiong how that's his fault too.

Game - interesting to hear the views on here, most of which seem pretty consistent. Great goalkeeping to keep out those two headers; better than the penalty save.

Can't see your problem with it Mags. My point is that on anumber of occasions, Rodgers actually managed to turn winning situations into losing ones at half time. McDermott doesn't seem to have that issue. That and he doesn't talk bollocks.

LOL, so it's more acceptable to play shit in the first half than the second if results are identical (or worse at the moment with McDermott). Your brain must be made of cheese with that logic, you don't get extra points for which half you play well in.

Err, one shows a positive improvement, as opposed to failing to capitalise on a strong position and then throwing it away with a deteriorating performance.

One shows considerably more room and chance for improvement in future games than the other. Forget the two manager's involved so you can leave your bias behind and engage that underworked brain of yours.

Or is it made of cheese?

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Leeds also lost yesterday,they both got FA Cup on their mind,it always happens when the players see bigger glory in the next game.None of them want to get injured in order not to miss the big cup game.

So you think the players were taking it easy as they didn't want to be injured for next week's glamour tie v Burnley?

[Royalee]

Surely playing well in any half shows that a team is capable and there is room for improvement in consistency? Failing to prepare a team for the start of the game is just as big a fault as allowing a team to drop off in the second half - don't let that get in the way of your bias though. Rodgers and McDermott have both had their hands tied in terms of the squad and both haven't had sufficient time to sort things out.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

I'm not surprised we lost. Liverpool and Forest were totally different propositions

Yep, FOrest are a decent, well organised football team.

[Ian Royal]

That's close to what I meant actually.

[Royal With Cheese]

LOL, so it's more acceptable to play shit in the first half than the second if results are identical (or worse at the moment with McDermott). Your brain must be made of cheese with that logic, you don't get extra points for which half you play well in.

It sounded quite straightforward to me.

Half time is the main chance for the manager to change things round. McDermott appears (early days yet) to be able to make a positive impact on the formation and make reasonble substitutions. I wasn't happy with the first half. It was piss poor. It was changed, it got better. No bollocks talked at the end. I'm looking for positives and found a few.

Oh and McDermotts record compared to Rodgers is identical. 4 league games played. 2 points. Intersting to note we've also scored more goals under McDermott over that initial 4 game spell than we did with Rodgers. Rediculous statistic but I know who keen you are on those Royalee.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

And Forest have spent a fortune as well.

[Ian Royal]

Surely playing well in any half shows that a team is capable and there is room for improvement in consistency? Failing to prepare a team for the start of the game is just as big a fault as allowing a team to drop off in the second half - don't let that get in the way of your bias though. Rodgers and McDermott have both had their hands tied in terms of the squad and both haven't had sufficient time to sort things out.

One already shows improvements being made. One shows a better a starting point, but a deterioration.

If a manager learns from the improvements he makes in games, he can translate that to the preparation for future games. There you have a clear trend for improvement.

Starting well, but not making it count and then getting worse, shows no trend for possible improvement, because you are relying on beating teams early on and holding on to it.

[FiNeRaIn]

Actually agree with Royalee on this.

Stood there yesterday at half time I was FUMING, disgusted with what i'd seen. Second half was an improvement, but who cares when you are already playing catchup and the other team sits back? I don't care if we play well in the first half or second half as long as we get draws away from home and wins at home and sadly we are not doing either because we are a piss poor side who is destined for relegation. We are not ruthless in front of goal as we have poor striking options and that doesn't help when you have poor defenders our strongest place is midfield - but even then we still got oveROFLun by them. That was ivar's worst performance in a Reading shirt yesterday, pearce and mills next game please.

[ankeny]

Leeds also lost yesterday,they both got FA Cup on their mind,it always happens when the players see bigger glory in the next game.None of them want to get injured in order not to miss the big cup game.

So you think the players were taking it easy as they didn't want to be injured for next week's glamour tie v Burnley?

Yes

[Royal With Cheese]

Actually agree with Royalee on this.

Stood there yesterday at half time I was FUMING, disgusted with what i'd seen. Second half was an improvement, but who cares when you are already playing catchup and the other team sits back?

Personally I thought Forest played such a high tempo the first half they started to run out of steam. It's difficult to say what would have happened if the peno had gone in.

I was listening to Radio Nottingham on the journey back down and they all thought that:

Forest should have scored 4 or 5 in the first half and that they were fortunate to win after Reading came at them after the break.
It was also interesting that they talked about the positive effecty Howard had when he came on.

I couldn't disagree with any of it.

[Ian Royal]

It's more likely they just had less in the tank after the Liverpool match.