Relegation

[Hendo]

Aye, doing a oxf*rd wonderful job at Forest at the moment...

No one can work that big a miracle. His record speaks for itself.

And his stint at Forest suggests he might finally be desperate enough to accept us.

But I doubt it and I doubt we could afford him, and we shouldn't be looking for a new manager anyway.

Promoted with Newcastle and smashed the league and then sacked which was badly received
Got into the playoffs with Brum and lost to Blackpool
Stayed in the Prem with Norwich and avoided relegation, which they have been unable to do since
Went up with Brighton but bottled the title
Took after a basketcase Forest with 0 points and led them to 17th

Not too shabby IMO

According to a lot of people on here/social media, we are also a basket case so I don't know how he would improve one basket case when he is doing terribly at another?

[Westwood52]

John Terry isn’t someone our young players should be looking up to. Anton Ferdinand and Wayne Bridge are both former Reading players and most of our players are black - keep Terry a mile away from this club.

Also think it’s far from guaranteed he’d sort out our defence. The worst our defence has been in a very long time was under Jaap Stam…

Tbh Hughton is the master of promotion from this level and would be who I want. Howe hasn’t managed at this level for about a decade and will probably be after a top flight job.

Aye, doing a oxf*rd wonderful job at Forest at the moment...

No one can work that big a miracle. His record speaks for itself.

And his stint at Forest suggests he might finally be desperate enough to accept us.

But I doubt it and I doubt we could afford him, and we shouldn't be looking for a new manager anyway.

Forest have just acquired Garner from Man Utd on loan.Seems like a move in the right direction.Don’t think they will be down there very long.
I have only been to two games this season;Preston and Brizzie were both dreadful.Coventry absolutely swamping us however,is very worrying.

[morganb]

According to a lot of people on here/social media, we are also a basket case so I don't know how he would improve one basket case when he is doing terribly at another?

We have the added attraction of being tin pot as well

[Snowflake Royal]

No one can work that big a miracle. His record speaks for itself.

And his stint at Forest suggests he might finally be desperate enough to accept us.

But I doubt it and I doubt we could afford him, and we shouldn't be looking for a new manager anyway.

Promoted with Newcastle and smashed the league and then sacked which was badly received
Got into the playoffs with Brum and lost to Blackpool
Stayed in the Prem with Norwich and avoided relegation, which they have been unable to do since
Went up with Brighton but bottled the title
Took after a basketcase Forest with 0 points and led them to 17th

Not too shabby IMO

According to a lot of people on here/social media, we are also a basket case so I don't know how he would improve one basket case when he is doing terribly at another?

Well we only keep a manager for one season and he did it once Forest. So he can do it with us, get sacked again by next Xmas and round and round we go again.

[Snowflake Royal]

I am behind the manager but its not just this season its the continued run of games and win ratio - its utterly dreadful. Thats the concern.

If he was to go, none on that list above should be anywhere near this team. Terry is a ridiculous appointment because as soon as he proves his worth, if at all, he would be taken by another club, again, no continuity.

We have tried foreign, old school, mixed results. Gareth Ainsworth for me has proved his worth, started well, and i like to see his fresh ideas given a go.

Thats my number 1 choice, has been for a while. If you believe what I heard, he was interviewed before Bowen got the job.

Sadly I cannot see Reading paying his enormous release fee at Wycombe.

What is his fee?

Shame as he is a great manager. A modern day maverick, and has amazing hair to boot.

If he was interviewed and we did not get him before Bowen, that was one of the more ridiculous decisions the club has made.

What? Appointing a guy who took is to mid table from near relegation certainties rather than a guy with one season of Championship experience with Wycombe?

Roflidiculolus

[Donny Ironside]

Thats my number 1 choice, has been for a while. If you believe what I heard, he was interviewed before Bowen got the job.

Sadly I cannot see Reading paying his enormous release fee at Wycombe.

What is his fee?

Shame as he is a great manager. A modern day maverick, and has amazing hair to boot.

If he was interviewed and we did not get him before Bowen, that was one of the more ridiculous decisions the club has made.

What? Appointing a guy who took is to mid table from near relegation certainties rather than a guy with one season of Championship experience with Wycombe?

Roflidiculolus

Yes exactly.

Wycombe.

Who for years have been near the bottom of L2 and then smashed that, won the playoffs and then really almost survived in our league with no budget or good players.

So yes he is a good manager and it is not ridiculous.

[blythspartan]

What is his fee?

Shame as he is a great manager. A modern day maverick, and has amazing hair to boot.

If he was interviewed and we did not get him before Bowen, that was one of the more ridiculous decisions the club has made.

What? Appointing a guy who took is to mid table from near relegation certainties rather than a guy with one season of Championship experience with Wycombe?

Roflidiculolus

Yes exactly.

Wycombe.

Who for years have been near the bottom of L2 and then smashed that, won the playoffs and then really almost survived in our league with no budget or good players.

So yes he is a good manager and it is not ridiculous.

+1 He’s my number one choice, if it doesn’t work out for Pauno.

[Snowflake Royal]

What is his fee?

Shame as he is a great manager. A modern day maverick, and has amazing hair to boot.

If he was interviewed and we did not get him before Bowen, that was one of the more ridiculous decisions the club has made.

What? Appointing a guy who took is to mid table from near relegation certainties rather than a guy with one season of Championship experience with Wycombe?

Roflidiculolus

Yes exactly.

Wycombe.

Who for years have been near the bottom of L2 and then smashed that, won the playoffs and then really almost survived in our league with no budget or good players.

So yes he is a good manager and it is not ridiculous.

I didn't say he would be a ridiculous appointment, I was laughing at you saying it was ridiculous to appoint Bowen over him.

[Donny Ironside]

What? Appointing a guy who took is to mid table from near relegation certainties rather than a guy with one season of Championship experience with Wycombe?

Roflidiculolus

Yes exactly.

Wycombe.

Who for years have been near the bottom of L2 and then smashed that, won the playoffs and then really almost survived in our league with no budget or good players.

So yes he is a good manager and it is not ridiculous.

I didn't say he would be a ridiculous appointment, I was laughing at you saying it was ridiculous to appoint Bowen over him.

Clearly we would never know and he is the clear favourite with our fans, and a very good manager. So I do not know how you can laugh at an opinion that may or may not have been true.

I will throw it out there and say he would have probably got us to the play offs at least. Like I said, look what he done with Wycombe.

[SCIAG]

I would much rather Terry then the other two. At the very least will

1) sort our defence out
2) be somebody the young players will look upto, know, idolize, learn from etc
3) have enough contacts to sort loans out

List of other available and realistic managers who last managed in our league.....

Steve Cooper
Alex Neil
Neil Harris
Tony Pulis (over my dead oxf*rd body)
Gary Monk
Eddie Howe
Martin O'Neil

John Terry isn’t someone our young players should be looking up to. Anton Ferdinand and Wayne Bridge are both former Reading players and most of our players are black - keep Terry a mile away from this club.

Also think it’s far from guaranteed he’d sort out our defence. The worst our defence has been in a very long time was under Jaap Stam…

Tbh Hughton is the master of promotion from this level and would be who I want. Howe hasn’t managed at this level for about a decade and will probably be after a top flight job.

He was found not guilty of it in court

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Terry

Does not mean he isn't a thick idiot who cheats on his wife, but to say our players should not idolize one of our countries best ever defenders is absolute oxf*rd laughable.

Hughton would be good but he knows he can do a job in the PL.

Someone convinced a jury that there was reasonable doubt but that doesn’t magically mean he didn’t do it

No, sorry, no room for racism in our game and Terry shouldn’t be used as a role model.

[Donny Ironside]

John Terry isn’t someone our young players should be looking up to. Anton Ferdinand and Wayne Bridge are both former Reading players and most of our players are black - keep Terry a mile away from this club.

Also think it’s far from guaranteed he’d sort out our defence. The worst our defence has been in a very long time was under Jaap Stam…

Tbh Hughton is the master of promotion from this level and would be who I want. Howe hasn’t managed at this level for about a decade and will probably be after a top flight job.

He was found not guilty of it in court

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Terry

Does not mean he isn't a thick idiot who cheats on his wife, but to say our players should not idolize one of our countries best ever defenders is absolute oxf*rd laughable.

Hughton would be good but he knows he can do a job in the PL.

Someone convinced a jury that there was reasonable doubt but that doesn’t magically mean he didn’t do it

No, sorry, no room for racism in our game and Terry shouldn’t be used as a role model.

I know it does not mean he did not do it, and he may well be a thick racist, but as a footballer he is a role model.

Chelsea captain. CL winner. PL winner. One of the best 5 defenders the league has seen.

As a person maybe not but you cannot doubt his quality as a footballer.

[Hendo]

He was found not guilty of it in court

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Terry

Does not mean he isn't a thick idiot who cheats on his wife, but to say our players should not idolize one of our countries best ever defenders is absolute oxf*rd laughable.

Hughton would be good but he knows he can do a job in the PL.

Someone convinced a jury that there was reasonable doubt but that doesn’t magically mean he didn’t do it

No, sorry, no room for racism in our game and Terry shouldn’t be used as a role model.

I know it does not mean he did not do it, and he may well be a thick racist, but as a footballer he is a role model.

Chelsea captain. CL winner. PL winner. One of the best 5 defenders the league has seen.

As a person maybe not but you cannot doubt his quality as a footballer.

Agreed, if you wanted someone to come in and be a role model for defenders based on football ability only, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better than Terry.

[NathStPaul]

Would point out that people can also change and learn. Not always of course but some do. He might well admit he was a bit of a bellend in the past, hard for him not to. Doesn't mean he is now.

[Donny Ironside]

Someone convinced a jury that there was reasonable doubt but that doesn’t magically mean he didn’t do it

No, sorry, no room for racism in our game and Terry shouldn’t be used as a role model.

I know it does not mean he did not do it, and he may well be a thick racist, but as a footballer he is a role model.

Chelsea captain. CL winner. PL winner. One of the best 5 defenders the league has seen.

As a person maybe not but you cannot doubt his quality as a footballer.

Agreed, if you wanted someone to come in and be a role model for defenders based on football ability only, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better than Terry.

+1

Basically my point. Hence my saying I would not mind him as a manager at all.

Yeah as somebody to look upto as a person, might not be all that. But he would

1) Sort the oxf*rd out of our defence
2) Know enough people in the game to be able to get us some loans
3) Motivate our players. Imagine being a young player in the Academy or under 23s and having him as a manager, somebody you watched lead England out to World Cups and win CL's with Chelsea. They would be chomping at the bit to work with him.
4) He would be hungry and eager to manage a team and prove he can cut it.

If we judge people or vilify things on things they may have done and then basically tell them we do not want them as a club, we would have a very slim oxf*rd choice of managers to choose from.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Someone convinced a jury that there was reasonable doubt but that doesn’t magically mean he didn’t do it

No, sorry, no room for racism in our game and Terry shouldn’t be used as a role model.

I know it does not mean he did not do it, and he may well be a thick racist, but as a footballer he is a role model.

Chelsea captain. CL winner. PL winner. One of the best 5 defenders the league has seen.

As a person maybe not but you cannot doubt his quality as a footballer.

Agreed, if you wanted someone to come in and be a role model for defenders based on football ability only, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better than Terry.

What about Jaap Stam?

[Snowflake Royal]

Yes exactly.

Wycombe.

Who for years have been near the bottom of L2 and then smashed that, won the playoffs and then really almost survived in our league with no budget or good players.

So yes he is a good manager and it is not ridiculous.

I didn't say he would be a ridiculous appointment, I was laughing at you saying it was ridiculous to appoint Bowen over him.

Clearly we would never know and he is the clear favourite with our fans, and a very good manager. So I do not know how you can laugh at an opinion that may or may not have been true.

I will throw it out there and say he would have probably got us to the play offs at least. Like I said, look what he done with Wycombe.

Lol.

[Donny Ironside]

I didn't say he would be a ridiculous appointment, I was laughing at you saying it was ridiculous to appoint Bowen over him.

Clearly we would never know and he is the clear favourite with our fans, and a very good manager. So I do not know how you can laugh at an opinion that may or may not have been true.

I will throw it out there and say he would have probably got us to the play offs at least. Like I said, look what he done with Wycombe.

Lol.

Care to elaborate with an actual point?

[Snowflake Royal]

He was found not guilty of it in court

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Terry

Does not mean he isn't a thick idiot who cheats on his wife, but to say our players should not idolize one of our countries best ever defenders is absolute oxf*rd laughable.

Hughton would be good but he knows he can do a job in the PL.

Someone convinced a jury that there was reasonable doubt but that doesn’t magically mean he didn’t do it

No, sorry, no room for racism in our game and Terry shouldn’t be used as a role model.

I know it does not mean he did not do it, and he may well be a thick racist, but as a footballer he is a role model.

Chelsea captain. CL winner. PL winner. One of the best 5 defenders the league has seen.

As a person maybe not but you cannot doubt his quality as a footballer.

Good defenders aren't automatically good coaches. And there's more to being a role model than having been a good defender. Terry can oxf*rd off

[Once upon a time .]

I have always believed the job of a coach is to improve the performance of the players and the team . Last year Paunovic did that . Although I didn’t like the slow playing out of defence because I didn’t believe we had the ability to do it well . It seemed to cause us more problems than it caused the opposition .
This season the overall rating of the squad has dropped significantly , any manager would struggle . But also , the manager has to play to a method and pattern that gets the best out of the players at his disposal . Here I think Paunovic struggles , he seems to believe in a certain pattern of play and expect the players to be able to play to it , they keep proving that they can’t , but he fails to change the pattern .
In his defence , I believe he has been let down by the club , who have handled the contracts situation badly so that capable players have been lost and turned down very acceptable offers for players , eg , Moore and Loader .

By the way in mentioning other managers nobody has mentioned the most successful manager at this level , Neil Warnock , 8 promotions . ————- I know he is with Middlesbrough , and half the supporters would leave if he was appointed .

[Steve_Upper_West]

Warnock or Terry...... now THAT would be a dilemma