Once again cars not held back after the game

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by SpaceCruiser » 10 Nov 2008 10:49

Harry Carry Poor road infrastructure around the ground is the main problem.


Yep, need more than two exits. I seem to remember that RFC tried to get an exit into Green Park, but the owners of Green Park were having none of it. Do I remember wrong?

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by The 17 Bus » 10 Nov 2008 10:55

I think you remember wrong.


Thye need to get improvements made, there have not really been any since the ground was built, many suggestions have been posted on HNA, but few seem to have been taken up so far.

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by SpaceCruiser » 10 Nov 2008 11:06

I also remember a long time ago the club considered getting a big pedestrian bridge built over from the stadium to the other side of the A33. RFC decided it was too expensive!

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Huntley & Palmer » 10 Nov 2008 12:22

fridays child This seems a regular occurence now. Presume Health and Safety a casualty of the credit crunch. Cars streaming down (at speed) Northern Way. The Stewards down by the buses 'only do the buses mate'

To be fair to the 'stewards' down by the buses, they are Reading Buses staff so have no interest in marshalling traffic further up the road

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by fridays child » 10 Nov 2008 15:27

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fridays child This seems a regular occurence now. Presume Health and Safety a casualty of the credit crunch. Cars streaming down (at speed) Northern Way. The Stewards down by the buses 'only do the buses mate'

To be fair to the 'stewards' down by the buses, they are Reading Buses staff so have no interest in marshalling traffic further up the road


Good point, well made, accepted


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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Barry the bird boggler » 10 Nov 2008 16:51

Think this is an issue STAR should take up with the club. With so many people leaving the ground it should simply be made quite clear that from 10 minutes before the final whistle is due and until 15 minutes after the game has ended no private transport will be allowed in or out of the stadium car park.

Seen similar schemes employed at other clubs without problem, just worried that before long there is going to be a serious accident due to some of the plonkers there are about who drive too fast for the given circumstances.

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Huntley & Palmer » 10 Nov 2008 17:09

Most ignore the painted zebra crossing on the road down to the buses anyway!!!

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by chandog » 10 Nov 2008 21:39

Royalshow The whole transport system at the ground is a complete joke.Games have been going on at Madejski Stadium for 10 years, yet it seems they don't ever learn lessons.Everytime i get the bus to the ground it has 'one off' feel about it in the sense that it never seems organized or efficient.Yesterday i was in the que for the bus and one of the many stewards that stand around and do seeming do nothing broke the trend and walked over to us.He said 'Are they beers? You can't take no beers on the buses" i responded by saying that what he he had just said didn't make any sense.He glared at me and said we were not aloud on the bus.Ok maybe he is only enforcing a rule,but four tins being carried in a bag is not the same as drinking on the bus.

On the way back the steward checking peoples tickets by the bus let the people on in front of me without even looking at their tickets.I know for a fact that one of them didn't have a ticket because i heard her say as much.Seeing how he was operating i casually held out my ticket as i walked in,but he grabbed it out of my hand an began staring at it.i asked him why he had singled me out to which he replied 'i do what i want,mate" I was going to tell him to oxf*rd right off but went and found a seat.

I can't wait until the station at Green Park is open.Then at least people will have a choice of services and Reading buses will be able to seen that there shitty service is not all that great.


they weren't beers they were cider :lol:

from my point of view (standing right next to you on both occasions) these stewards just seemed like grumpy twats (sterotypical or what?). The first one just seemed to pick on a group of harmless teenagers who had enough cans of cider for one each and then got wound up when you quite rightly pointed out that he had used a double negative. the guy who checked your ticket was a right idiot for checking your ticket in the first place when no one else ever bothers to do so and then failing to realise an 18 year old had a child ticket. :roll:

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Royalshow » 10 Nov 2008 21:46

IMO you could be right HTH


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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by chandog » 10 Nov 2008 22:02

Royalshow IMO you could be right HTH


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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by working class hero » 11 Nov 2008 11:50

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Dirk Gently Cars certainly were help back yesterday - the problem is that when it's 3-0 with 10 minutes to go so many people leave early that there's a regular stream of cars leaving the car park *before* teh final whistle, which is teh point at which the barriers go up to stop cars leaving the car parks. And, of course, the people who leave a game to get away early are precisely the people who will drive faster to get away early!

Not sure what the answer is, unless it's to stop cars leaving the car parks from 10 minutes before until 15 minutes after the final whistle, and I'm not sure that would be practical.


Why wouldn't it be practical? Surely health and safety issues genuinely have to be paramount in this particular instance. If someone wants to leave the car park 10 minutes before the end of the game they will just have to park somewhere else if this system is implemented.


The reason I questioned whether it would be practical is that you're asking the car park attendants to somehow guess exactly how much extra time the referee is going to add on. It gets even more problematical when you have cup ties with the possibiliy of extra time/penalties.


Pah! Easy enough to know when 15 mins before is and apply it with no reference to added time. Simiarly if there is extra time then there can be a similar knowledge of closing gates as 2nd half ET starts.... As for penalties anyone leaving then ought to be shot!

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Sun Tzu » 11 Nov 2008 12:05

There is no need for guess work.

The stewards are all in possession of radios and the stadium control knows what is going on. There is already a process where stewards are withdrawn from inside the stadium and repositioned outside a set period before the game ends so decisons are made on how long until the final whistle.

In any case people decide to leave early based on how long the scorebaord says there is left, rather than factoring in extra time so the early rush will always tend to be at about the 80 minute mark of the game.

Whatever happens there will still be issues (people will come up with excuses as to why it is essential that they leave) so it comes down to having some decent management able to react to situations as they arise...


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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by PlasticRoyale » 17 Nov 2008 00:06

Maybe i'm being old school here but i remember trying to drive through a football crowd as being an invitation to have your car smashed to pieces

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by fridays child » 17 Nov 2008 09:20

PlasticRoyale Maybe i'm being old school here but i remember trying to drive through a football crowd as being an invitation to have your car smashed to pieces


And to be honest it won't be too long before that happens given the way some were pushing their way through

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Harry Carry » 17 Nov 2008 10:19

Motorists>Pedestrians.

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Barry the bird boggler » 17 Nov 2008 12:19

Harry Carry Motorists>Pedestrians.


You are Jeremy Clarkson and ICM5P

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by Dirk Gently » 17 Nov 2008 12:24

PlasticRoyale Maybe i'm being old school here but i remember trying to drive through a football crowd as being an invitation to have your car smashed to pieces


True - think back to what it was liek on the Tilehurst Road coming out of Eml Park at 4.50pm. No provision for pedestrians then, it was just a free for all.

It's also like that now at many other grounds, too.

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by brendywendy » 17 Nov 2008 12:29

chandog
Royalshow The whole transport system at the ground is a complete joke.Games have been going on at Madejski Stadium for 10 years, yet it seems they don't ever learn lessons.Everytime i get the bus to the ground it has 'one off' feel about it in the sense that it never seems organized or efficient.Yesterday i was in the que for the bus and one of the many stewards that stand around and do seeming do nothing broke the trend and walked over to us.He said 'Are they beers? You can't take no beers on the buses" i responded by saying that what he he had just said didn't make any sense.He glared at me and said we were not aloud on the bus.Ok maybe he is only enforcing a rule,but four tins being carried in a bag is not the same as drinking on the bus.

On the way back the steward checking peoples tickets by the bus let the people on in front of me without even looking at their tickets.I know for a fact that one of them didn't have a ticket because i heard her say as much.Seeing how he was operating i casually held out my ticket as i walked in,but he grabbed it out of my hand an began staring at it.i asked him why he had singled me out to which he replied 'i do what i want,mate" I was going to tell him to oxf*rd right off but went and found a seat.

I can't wait until the station at Green Park is open.Then at least people will have a choice of services and Reading buses will be able to seen that there shitty service is not all that great.


they weren't beers they were cider :lol:

from my point of view (standing right next to you on both occasions) these stewards just seemed like grumpy twats (sterotypical or what?). The first one just seemed to pick on a group of harmless teenagers who had enough cans of cider for one each and then got wound up when you quite rightly pointed out that he had used a double negative. the guy who checked your ticket was a right idiot for checking your ticket in the first place when no one else ever bothers to do so and then failing to realise an 18 year old had a child ticket. :roll:


ha!

karma for laughing at me and my seat........ incedent!

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Re: Once again cars not held back after the game

by chandog » 17 Nov 2008 20:45

shut up brendy

at least we managed to retain the little dignity we previously had .... i think

i hope at the saints game you have learnt your lesson and will queue to get out of the ground like us decent folk rather than taking the short cut by jumping over chairs to get out faster

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