FiNeRaInIan RoyalThaumagurist* So Germany doesn't have hooliganism????
I didn't say that.
Germany are proper moody these days- seriously seriosuly renowned for having a pop at each. They've not lost their city rivalries remotely.
There is trouble at German games, but I've been to quite a few over there, and there just isn't that "edge" you can get here with travelling supporters going to/from games. You just don't get that sense that soemthing's about to kick off if there's one bad comment.
And it's not as if they don't drink either. You go to away games on a train and it's normal to see guys bringing a "party 7" each to crack open for the journey. It's just that somehow they don't turn into the obnoxious aggressive dickheads that too many English lads become after they've got a few beers in them.