by Nobby » 19 Dec 2010 12:25
by biscuitman » 19 Dec 2010 12:53
The thought of offering terracing at grounds to the likes of say, Cardiff City fans is not progress.
by Ian Royal » 19 Dec 2010 16:19
biscuitmanThe thought of offering terracing at grounds to the likes of say, Cardiff City fans is not progress.
I faced so problems anytime I went to Cardiff...and they only had terracing a year and a half ago. Not like they were rioting behind that goal every home game. It's not pointless...I know for a fact that Rob Wilson has no interest in football so he sent me a template which said the same things John Redwood sent to me 5 years ago.
by roadrunner » 20 Dec 2010 16:34
Svlad Cjelli I can't believe that you're using Hillsborough as an argument against safe-standing - that's a frighteningly simplistic and ill-informed view that has been thoroughly discredited, and one which virtually nobody subscribes to any more.
by zummerset » 20 Dec 2010 17:02
by Svlad Cjelli » 20 Dec 2010 17:05
by Bandini » 20 Dec 2010 17:12
by zummerset » 20 Dec 2010 17:31
by Ian Royal » 20 Dec 2010 17:50
zummerset I don't think anyone is in fear of football fans and certainly not me. You just seem to be harking back to something that was of its time and life has moved on. If it helps - think of other 70/80's icons like for example the British car industry which declined into nothing because frankly the product was very poor and unreliable and other people could do better and improved the product. Football is a product (I can almost see some of you foaming at the mouth now) and the runaway success of the modern football product is proof that people want to do this in a safe and controlled environment (which for most people is that they are quite happy to sit down). I am sure that some fans would like a clothing optional area, some would like a hooligan welcome area and others might want to drink in the stands - now you guys want to stand up which is another minority interest group that clubs don't really have to indulge.
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 20 Dec 2010 18:15
zummerset I don't think anyone is in fear of football fans and certainly not me. You just seem to be harking back to something that was of its time and life has moved on. If it helps - think of other 70/80's icons like for example the British car industry which declined into nothing because frankly the product was very poor and unreliable and other people could do better and improved the product. Football is a product (I can almost see some of you foaming at the mouth now) and the runaway success of the modern football product is proof that people want to do this in a safe and controlled environment (which for most people is that they are quite happy to sit down). I am sure that some fans would like a clothing optional area, some would like a hooligan welcome area and others might want to drink in the stands - now you guys want to stand up which is another minority interest group that clubs don't really have to indulge.
by Nobby » 20 Dec 2010 21:50
by roadrunner » 20 Dec 2010 22:02
Nobby I used to love terracing but it would be very unsuitable at the Madstad.
I am not a builder but I doubt it's just a case of ripping out seats. You'd need different entrances, disabled areas and probably some type of higher barrier at the front with all the safety issues around that.
by West Stand Man » 21 Dec 2010 07:54
by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Dec 2010 08:38
by West Stand Man » 21 Dec 2010 09:02
by Svlad Cjelli » 21 Dec 2010 10:42
by paultheroyal » 21 Dec 2010 10:54
by Svlad Cjelli » 21 Dec 2010 10:55
by paultheroyal » 21 Dec 2010 11:04
Svlad Cjelli Ah, the positive contribution of someone who's lost the argument.....
by Svlad Cjelli » 21 Dec 2010 11:07
paultheroyalSvlad Cjelli Ah, the positive contribution of someone who's lost the argument.....
Oh please Dirk.
Backed out for the fear of you embarrassing yourself.
I will leave it at that.
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