Cheating footballers and their fall from grace

[Kitson12]

Replays on all goals would not slow the game down. There's always a break after goals anyway.

+1

[Quagmire]

Whole of Reading FC team on the afternoon of 22/09/08

Henry felt the ball hit his hand and yet celebrated the goal. The Reading players that day probably thought WTF has that been given for - i.e. no exact point to argue against as it was so random.

What this has to do with this thread I do not know

[soggy biscuit]

Watford 2 Reading 2. HTH.

Exactly

Why didn't the whole Reading team tell the ref is wasn't a goal............are they now all cheats?

Not quite as important a game though

To the fans of the teams who lost out it was just as important

[Sun Tzu]

Henry felt the ball hit his hand and yet celebrated the goal.

Sounds like he was correct to then....

You could add Robbie Keane to the list for his repeated use of the arm to control the ball last night. Delicious irony that a man who has a reputation for honesty benefits whilst a serial cheat loses out !

No idea why RFC players get included as none of them broke any rules against Watford making cheating a touch difficult !

[papereyes]

Harold 'the Battering Ram' Schumacher.

He won that day.

What fall from grace?

[AF1]

Whole of Reading FC team on the afternoon of 22/09/08

Sorry?

You must of mis-heard me, I said

Whole of Reading FC team on the afternoon of 22/09/08

By that argument the entire French team were cheats last night for not letting the Irish run up the other end and score one back

[Thaumagurist*]

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[paultheroyal]

Richard,

Reading knew it was not a goal, - Many a clip has James Harper running back to the centre circle begging his team mates to join him knowing ref had cocked up and celebrate goal. Reading had a further opportunity to re-set the scores after the interval, but chose not too.

[Thaumagurist*]

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[Sun Tzu]

Richard,

Reading knew it was not a goal, - Many a clip has James Harper running back to the centre circle begging his team mates to join him knowing ref had cocked up and celebrate goal. Reading had a further opportunity to re-set the scores after the interval, but chose not too.

Watford knew Bikey's goal was valid yet not one of them spoke to the ref and confirmed there had been no foul.

Paul you live in a fool's world and making assumptions about what the Reading players may or may not have known doesn't help your case.

[paultheroyal]

Hang on a sec - Reading knew they scored through unfair means and yet did nothing to change the scoreline or let the referee know that a cock up had been made. How is that different to last night. My comments are valid.

[Sun Tzu]

Hang on a sec - Reading knew they scored through unfair means and yet did nothing to change the scoreline or let the referee know that a cock up had been made. How is that different to last night. My comments are valid.

It's pretty similar in that there has been a huge and largely ill informed over reaction in both cases.

You ASSUME the Reading players knew the goal was wrongly awarded yet players afterwards said they hadn't a clue what was going on.

Players taking unilateral action to change a scoreline is almost unheard of despite there being endless examples of goals being wrongly awarded or denied. We'd end up in the same stupid situation we reached a season or two back where teams were expected to kick the ball out of play if an opponent sneezed. All you can ask of players is to allow the referee to make decisions and then abide by them (not actively cheating would also be very nice ! But in the Watford game no one cheated)

[Thaumagurist*]

Hang on a sec - Reading knew they scored through unfair means and yet did nothing to change the scoreline or let the referee know that a cock up had been made. How is that different to last night. My comments are valid.

It's pretty similar in that there has been a huge and largely ill informed over reaction in both cases.

You ASSUME the Reading players knew the goal was wrongly awarded yet players afterwards said they hadn't a clue what was going on.

Players taking unilateral action to change a scoreline is almost unheard of despite there being endless examples of goals being wrongly awarded or denied. We'd end up in the same stupid situation we reached a season or two back where teams were expected to kick the ball out of play if an opponent sneezed. All you can ask of players is to allow the referee to make decisions and then abide by them (not actively cheating would also be very nice ! But in the Watford game no one cheated)

Spot on. It was a referee mistake and no-one was cheating in this unfortunate situation.

[wolsey]

I don't understand what the fuss is over Henri. Every professional sportsman will do what they can to to win; sometimes (quite often) this will involve breaking the laws of the game: this is why organised sport has referees.

Would there have been such a furore had the foul been a blatant push on a defender rather than a handball?

[paultheroyal]

I don't understand what the fuss is over Henri. Every professional sportsman will do what they can to to win; sometimes (quite often) this will involve breaking the laws of the game: this is why organised sport has referees.

Would there have been such a furore had the foul been a blatant push on a defender rather than a handball?

Spot on. It is a ridiculous over reaction - controversial moments go on in every game. If's and but's etc - Argentina vs England 1998 and "that corner" for instance.

It was instinct from Henry, and got away with it.

Irish folk can now concentrate in keeping Jedward in the X Factor now.

[cmonurz]

So is Gary Johnson just an idiot then?

[Thaumagurist*]

It was instinct from Henry, and got away with it.

Yeah, his instinct is to cheat.

[wolsey]

It was instinct from Henry, and got away with it.

Yeah, his instinct is to cheat.

Just as yours is to spout bollocks at every given opportunity.

[AF1]

Richard,

Reading knew it was not a goal, - Many a clip has James Harper running back to the centre circle begging his team mates to join him knowing ref had cocked up and celebrate goal. Reading had a further opportunity to re-set the scores after the interval, but chose not too.

WUM

nobody can be this thick

[Ginger Ninjas]

Anyone who uses the Watford example is really struggling, as it was a unique situation, being 100% the blame of the officials (the linesman in this case). As anyone who watched the whole game will know, the referee more than evened it up by disallowing Bikey's 'goal' and not awarding Reading two clear penalties (and we're talking as clear as the one not given against Ipswich last weekend).