Sunderland V Everton - backpass

[RoyalinBracknell]

Why was Mignolet cautioned for handling the backpass in the Sunderland V Everton game yesterday? As far as I was aware, a backpass could only be penalised by an indirect freekick. Rather concerning if Phil Dowd doesn't know the laws!?!

[paultheroyal]

I am hoping it was more to do with delaying a quick free kick to be taken as my interpretation would be that it's incorrect to caution for back pass unless he is categorising it as unsporting behaviour which is also a bit lame.

[SLAMMED]

That's a bit like booking someone for being offside.

[TBM]

That's a bit like booking someone for being offside.

Or giving an indirect free-kick for handball........oh

[Albert Spangler]

That's a bit like booking someone for being offside.

Or giving an indirect free-kick for handball........oh

Or a throw because just enough of the ball was out.

[SLAMMED]

They had another one today when they had a free kick just by the corner flag and the ref made sure he knew it was indirect

[dizzynewheights]

Deliber8 handball to prevent a goal being scored - should be a sending off

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Deliber8 handball to prevent a goal being scored - should be a sending off

and all other backpasses picked up by the keeper in the box should be penalties too, I take it?

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Why not? Its unlawfully handling a ball inside the box with the intent of denying the opposition team a goal scoring chance.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Why not? Its unlawfully handling a ball inside the box with the intent of denying the opposition team a goal scoring chance.

Picking up a backpass isn't handball. It's regarded as time-wasting. That's why it's an indirect free kick.

The rule was brought it purely to stop teams killing time by passing back to the keeper, who'd pick the ball up, then pass it to the defender, who then pass back to him when an attacker came near, etc etc.

It was the 80s equivalent of taking the ball to the corner flag, and was outlawed for that reason, and that reason alone. Nobody at all, ever, thought tipping an overhit backpass over the bar shouldn't be allowed.

[SLAMMED]

If he tipped it over the bar it wouldn't count as a backpass would it?

[Tony Le Mesmer]

So, what happens then if a backpass is played to the keeper, who goes to control it but misses the ball. Ball is rolling towards the goal, keeper dives back and stops it on the line with his hands. Red card for a "Professional foul"?

[TBM]

If he tipped it over the bar it wouldn't count as a backpass would it?

Yes - when its a back-pass the keeper is classed as an outfield player

[Wax Jacket]

he caught it to stop it going in

pretty much no different to if he had caught it a yard outside the box

[dizzynewheights]

Not sure I've been talking about the same incident The one I saw in a drunken/hungover haze Sunday morning was an overhit, looping backpass from 30 odd yards out where the keeper caught it. In that situation it should be a red imo and prolly a pen - deliberate handball to prevent a goal being scored

[TBM]

Not sure I've been talking about the same incident The one I saw in a drunken/hungover haze Sunday morning was an overhit, looping backpass from 30 odd yards out where the keeper caught it. In that situation it should be a red imo and prolly a pen - deliberate handball to prevent a goal being scored

The back-pass rule refers to two clauses within Law 12 of the Laws of the Game of association football.[1] These clauses prohibit the goalkeeper from handling the ball when a teammate has intentionally "kicked" the ball to him, or handling the ball directly from a teammate's throw-in.[2] The goalkeeper is still permitted to use his feet and other body parts to redirect the ball.

The actual offence committed is the handling of the ball by the goalkeeper, not the ball being passed back. An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team from the place where the offence occurred, i.e., where the goalkeeper handled the ball. In practice this offence is very rarely committed.

[parky]

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfo ... w12-en.pdf

Law 12 from the FIFA interpretations of the LOTG. Should be here instead of quoting Wikipedia.

[TBM]

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfootball/clubfootball/01/37/04/28/law12-en.pdf

Law 12 from the FIFA interpretations of the LOTG. Should be here instead of quoting Wikipedia.

Why - it still has the same outcome

[ZacNaloen]

It's not handball, it's a specific offence. Laws of the game state it to be an indirect freekick, and that's that. I'm not sure why we're arguing.

Because some people aren't paying attention and don't know the law. Phil Dowd included it seems.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

It's not handball, it's a specific offence. Laws of the game state it to be an indirect freekick, and that's that. I'm not sure why we're arguing.

Because some people aren't paying attention and don't know the law. Phil Dowd included it seems.

worse still is that Townsend-itis - where the afflicted believe referees should apply the rules according to what they think the rules ought to be rather than what they actually are - is on the rise in this country, and as yet, there is still no cure.