Changes In Football thread

[Sanguine]

We shouldn't be calling offside using VAR by someone's boot.

I mean, its called football...

Sure. But 'football' is linesmen putting a flag up when they see a player offside. When we are now judging that with digital technology I think it's fair that they look at where the line is drawn.

[Brogue]

Saw this vid of dudek’s winning save in the CL final in 2005. It was just accepted that keepers could come off their lines back then. But I’m a bit shocked to see how bad this one was and I don’t ever really recall there ever being any controversy about it. I watched the game and saw the save and I don’t ever remember it being this bad

https://x.com/basheertk_/status/1936421 ... zleRCWjxvA

[Sutekh]

Saw this vid of dudek’s winning save in the CL final in 2005. It was just accepted that keepers could come off their lines back then. But I’m a bit shocked to see how bad this one was and I don’t ever really recall there ever being any controversy about it. I watched the game and saw the save and I don’t ever remember it being this bad

https://x.com/basheertk_/status/1936421 ... zleRCWjxvA

Personally I think keepers should be allowed to, after all they let penalty takers twat about in their run ups

[6ft Kerplunk]

Saw this vid of dudek’s winning save in the CL final in 2005. It was just accepted that keepers could come off their lines back then. But I’m a bit shocked to see how bad this one was and I don’t ever really recall there ever being any controversy about it. I watched the game and saw the save and I don’t ever remember it being this bad

https://x.com/basheertk_/status/1936421 ... zleRCWjxvA

Personally I think keepers should be allowed to, after all they let penalty takers twat about in their run ups

I'm all for a rule change that says if the taker slows down or stutters during their run up then the keeper can come off his line.

[Brum Royal]

Was playing golf yesterday with some of the inlaws family and friends, one of whom is a referee in the Cheshire league. He's a level 4 qualified ref, which makes him eligible for a few local cup finals. He was saying yesterday that if he was to push on to get the qualiifications to become a Premier League ref it would cost a total (from level 1 starting at £300) of £53k if you had no grants/funding. Apparently the FA fund part of it so the realistic total you as an individual would have to pay would be in the region of £20k. Apparently the equivalent badges done through the Welsh FA are about £20k total if I remember correctly) and to do the same badges in Germany or Spain they're almost free (but you'd obviously need to move over there and ref in their leagues).

It's not really surprising we struggle for referees when there's that level of cost involved just to undertake the badges. He's also in favour of some form of referee badge being introduced to the coaching badges so they better understand the laws, as a lot of the issues he runs into is down to coaches/players thinking they know the rules when they don't, or intepret them incorrectly.

[Dirk Gently]

... as a lot of the issues he runs into is down to coaches/players thinking they know the rules when they don't, or intepret them incorrectly.

They could solve a lot of that problem by making it compulsory for anyone commentating or summarising on TV to also have some form of referee badge...

[6ft Kerplunk]

... as a lot of the issues he runs into is down to coaches/players thinking they know the rules when they don't, or intepret them incorrectly.

They could solve a lot of that problem by making it compulsory for anyone commentating or summarising on TV to also have some form of referee badge...

Or at the very least have a refs & media week before the start of every season where the refs go through with the media any rule changes or changes to how they've been told to apply the rules. Gives refs a chance to explain common misconceptions about rules that they think the media constantly get wrong.

[Stranded]

Was playing golf yesterday with some of the inlaws family and friends, one of whom is a referee in the Cheshire league. He's a level 4 qualified ref, which makes him eligible for a few local cup finals. He was saying yesterday that if he was to push on to get the qualiifications to become a Premier League ref it would cost a total (from level 1 starting at £300) of £53k if you had no grants/funding. Apparently the FA fund part of it so the realistic total you as an individual would have to pay would be in the region of £20k. Apparently the equivalent badges done through the Welsh FA are about £20k total if I remember correctly) and to do the same badges in Germany or Spain they're almost free (but you'd obviously need to move over there and ref in their leagues).

It's not really surprising we struggle for referees when there's that level of cost involved just to undertake the badges. He's also in favour of some form of referee badge being introduced to the coaching badges so they better understand the laws, as a lot of the issues he runs into is down to coaches/players thinking they know the rules when they don't, or intepret them incorrectly.

Not to go down the rugby is better than football route (its not, they're just different) and not sure if it is the case in the UK - but as part of the licencing rules for clubs here, each club in the Bundesliga has to have at least 5 people qualified as referees who are members of that club in order to receive their licence. The courses for youth rugby are free and any additional costs are met by the club and local union.