Qatar 2022?

[Stranded]

Blatter has stated that he wants the Qatar World Cup to be played in the Winter.

He stated that it was because he was concerned about it being too hot for the players if the World Cup were held in June/July........


........ so why award it to them then, muppet!!!



Seriously though, moving the WC to Jan/Feb would basically stuff up 2 domestic seasons; clubs would have to release players in early December, for nearly 3 months. Madness.

More like 3 - unless they intend on playing the Confed. Cup in the summer still.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Seriously though, moving the WC to Jan/Feb would basically stuff up 2 domestic seasons; clubs would have to release players in early December, for nearly 3 months. Madness.

why 3 months? The world cup lasts a month. Players would have to be released maybe 3 weeks before that. Where do you get the other month and a bit from?

It's not as if they'd need the equivalent of their summer break like they do after a normal world cup.

[PEARCEY]

Plenty more on Blatter though. Remember when he wanted the goals widened? Remember when he suggested games be played in quarters? Fruit loop

Don't think they are such bad ideas. The game badly needs to freshen up. Its needs radical overhaul.

have you been taking heroin? You are a normal poster

I'm not overly keen on seeing the game played in quarters although I wouldn't rule it out. Widening the goals would obviously increase the number of goals scored.That would increase the excitement and interest. I'm not talking about huge increases in size but enough of an increase to make a bit of difference in goals scored per game. Whats wrong with that?
I would definitely like to see sin- bins,ie 10 mins off the pitch for yellow card offences.
The last World Cup was appalling. It should be the show-piece event every four years. Before it started my kids and their friends were really looking forward to watching the World Cup. They switched off en-masse before the group stages were complete. I bet that was replicated around the country. Thats why I would like to see serious change in the way in which the game is played. After all most recent World Cups have been bore-fests so South Africa 2010 was hardly the exception to the rule.

Cricket has changed radically over the past few decades. I admit its easier to do because of the one day format but I don't see why football can't embrace change. What happens if these changes are brought in and fail? Simple. You revert back to the old way of playing the game.

[prostak]

Hang on - the World Cup already breaks up a number of seasons - the US, Russia, Scandinavia and the far East, for instance. The football world doesn't end at Dover any more, you know... Most countries that do play August-May have a break around that time anyway. It seems a minor thing to be attacking Qatar '22 on when there are so many more significant issues.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

I'm not overly keen on seeing the game played in quarters although I wouldn't rule it out.

I can't see anything that would be gained from it.

Games always tend to open up towards the end, when players are getting a little tired, so I can't see why it would help, other than for those who want another chance to go and buy snacks during the game.

I would definitely like to see sin- bins,ie 10 mins off the pitch for yellow card offences.

I can't agree there. Play-acting to get players sent off is bad enough as it is. It'd be even worse with players knowing they can get a player temporarily sent off by getting him booked.

The last World Cup was appalling. It should be the show-piece event every four years. Before it started my kids and their friends were really looking forward to watching the World Cup. They switched off en-masse before the group stages were complete. I bet that was replicated around the country.

You can blame two things for that - the stupid new ball and England being crap.

Thats why I would like to see serious change in the way in which the game is played. After all most recent World Cups have been bore-fests so South Africa 2010 was hardly the exception to the rule.

Two things stand out. First, don't try out new rules/interpretations or new balls at a world cup. It's not the time to experiment. Second, should the whole game change because of the world cup?

The boredom and low scoring in South Africa was more or less a reverse of past world cups, which were fine in the group stages, but dreadful once the knockout rounds started. South Africa only really came alive in the 2nd half of the tournament.

[PEARCEY]

Its more than the World Cup for me. I've been getting steadily more dis-illusioned with the modern game as the years have gone by. The cheating,negativity,moaning,greed etc. Its not a pleasant spectacle.
As for sin-bins just look at the World Cup Final. Would the Dutch have continued to play up as they did if one by one their players were binned? Yes you would get players binned because of play-acting but thats down to refereeing error and not the proposed change to the game itself. Besides if players were binned for cheating in that way (as they are supposed to be under current rules) it might make them think again and it might clean up the game a bit.
The game needs cleaning up. The lack of respect towards match officials by players is appalling. It sets a rotten example to the young kids watching the game. They copy their idols...I see it every week with the under 8's that I train. Under 8's for Christ-sake. Such dissent should mean immediate yellow cards and sin-binning of players. The penny might just drop with some of these highly-paid prima-donnas that the referee's word is final and if they keep arguing they get binned and the ball is taken 10 yards farther up the pitch as well.
Football has barely changed over the decades. It will always remain the World's favourite sport but that doesn't mean it can't improve as a spectacle. At the moment I find it pretty ugly to watch far too often.

[T.R.O.L.I.]

Blatter has stated that he wants the Qatar World Cup to be played in the Winter.

He stated that it was because he was concerned about it being too hot for the players if the World Cup were held in June/July........


........ so why award it to them then, muppet!!!

IIRC, when asked about the WC being in the summer in Qatar a couple of weeks ago, he actually said something along the lines of "Countries were invited to tender for the World Cup in the Summer of 2022 so it will be played in June / July". So why the change of direction, Mr BLOLatter?

[Ian Royal]

play in quarters - more room for adverts on TV = good for SKY so I'm out thanks.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

On the radio last night they were discussing how the head of the Quatar world cup bid has said that they'll probably spread the games around other UAE countries rather than build all the stadium required

So instead of the promised "carbon-neutral" air-conditioned stadiums, we're getting the tourney shifted to Jan, and the tourney may now end up being spread into other countries

Now forgive me if i'm wrong, but if a company were to win a tender for a contract, then completely change the specs, they would have the contract taken straight off them

[frimmers3]

On the radio last night they were discussing how the head of the Quatar world cup bid has said that they'll probably spread the games around other UAE countries rather than build all the stadium required

So instead of the promised "carbon-neutral" air-conditioned stadiums, we're getting the tourney shifted to Jan, and the tourney may now end up being spread into other countries

Now forgive me if i'm wrong, but if a company were to win a tender for a contract, then completely change the specs, they would have the contract taken straight off them

not if you are the coalition government of the united kingdom.

[swansea jack]

[ After all most recent World Cups have been bore-fests so South Africa 2010 was hardly the exception to the rule.

I'd actually like them to consider increasing the number of teams in a group, to say 5, so that there's more games played, more points up for grabs and less risk of a team not qualifying for the knock-out stages after they've lost their first game.

[swansea jack]

Now forgive me if i'm wrong, but if a company were to win a tender for a contract, then completely change the specs, they would have the contract taken straight off them

Happens all to often without losing the contract as it's usually too late / costly etc... to change unfort.

[PEARCEY]

play in quarters - more room for adverts on TV = good for SKY so I'm out thanks.

I agree with you on that Ian. Its probably too much of a change to the way the game is played although I would still like to see the game radically overhauled.

[Stranded]

Now forgive me if i'm wrong, but if a company were to win a tender for a contract, then completely change the specs, they would have the contract taken straight off them

Happens all to often without losing the contract as it's usually too late / costly etc... to change unfort.

True but as this is coming out just weeks after the announcement it wouldn't take much to switch it to one of the other bidders who have stadia already in place.

[Mr Angry]

Seriously though, moving the WC to Jan/Feb would basically stuff up 2 domestic seasons; clubs would have to release players in early December, for nearly 3 months. Madness.

why 3 months? The world cup lasts a month. Players would have to be released maybe 3 weeks before that. Where do you get the other month and a bit from?

It's not as if they'd need the equivalent of their summer break like they do after a normal world cup.

Most countries will ask for their players to be released at least a month before the competition; the competition will last for at least 5 weeks, and then the players who played will have to have at least a couple of weeks off before returning to their clubs.

However, a couple of things - it IS 11 Years away, and I can also imagine this idea will go the way of wider goals and the game broken into qurters rather than halves.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Most countries will ask for their players to be released at least a month before the competition;

Isn't the current ruling 3 weeks?

the competition will last for at least 5 weeks

Why? It doesn't currently. It's currently one month.

, and then the players who played will have to have at least a couple of weeks off before returning to their clubs.

Why would they need it? They have it currently as that break is in lieu of a pre-season break, but they wouldn't need it then any more than players return from the African Cup of Nations need at least two weeks off afterwards - which they obviously don't have.

[Royalee]

I'm not overly keen on seeing the game played in quarters although I wouldn't rule it out. Widening the goals would obviously increase the number of goals scored.That would increase the excitement and interest. I'm not talking about huge increases in size but enough of an increase to make a bit of difference in goals scored per game. Whats wrong with that?
I would definitely like to see sin- bins,ie 10 mins off the pitch for yellow card offences.
The last World Cup was appalling. It should be the show-piece event every four years. Before it started my kids and their friends were really looking forward to watching the World Cup. They switched off en-masse before the group stages were complete. I bet that was replicated around the country. Thats why I would like to see serious change in the way in which the game is played. After all most recent World Cups have been bore-fests so South Africa 2010 was hardly the exception to the rule.

Cricket has changed radically over the past few decades. I admit its easier to do because of the one day format but I don't see why football can't embrace change. What happens if these changes are brought in and fail? Simple. You revert back to the old way of playing the game.

This is a terrible post.

Quarters? The ball's out of play enough as it is, you'd spend more time at the stadium with even less action, utter bullshit.

Referees can't manage the game as it is an get decisions right, let alone giving players sin bins for 10 minutes, the game would descend into chaos with divers and cheats.

The reasons the World Cup was shit were the 'innovations' and Blatter's stubborness, like having the World Cup played in winter in a country which should never have staged it, playing games at altitude and with a stupidly light ball ruining the quality of games, not having goal-line technology, vuvuzelas killing the atmosphere, the mockery off the offside rule and preventing a goalscoring opportunity punishable with straight reds, and so on.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

The reasons the World Cup was shit were the 'innovations' and Blatter's stubborness, like having the World Cup played in winter

perish the though of playing football in winter. What were they thinking of?

in a country which should never have staged it

there wasn't a lot wrong from the South African end. The stadiums all got built. The endemic muggings and murders predicted by the tabloids never materialised. There was hotel choas, but that was FIFA's fault for block booking the hotel rooms, and giving independent hotels (probably deliberately) misleading advice on prices to charge.

, playing games at altitude

seemed fine in Mexico.

the mockery off the offside rule

that wasn't changed for the world cup. It's been that way for a while. And it's only a mockery as the pundits - the people who are supposed to be the experts - couldn't be arsed to learn the rules. Therefore every time there was an offside decision they didn't understand, they blamed the rule rather than their ignorance.

and preventing a goalscoring opportunity punishable with straight reds, and so on.

I think that's a good rule, but should only be applied where it's felt there is intent. The idea is to punish a professional foul, but now that intent doesn't play a part in a free kick decsion, you can effectively be sent off for an accidental "professional foul", which is daft.

[PEARCEY]

I'm not overly keen on seeing the game played in quarters although I wouldn't rule it out. Widening the goals would obviously increase the number of goals scored.That would increase the excitement and interest. I'm not talking about huge increases in size but enough of an increase to make a bit of difference in goals scored per game. Whats wrong with that?
I would definitely like to see sin- bins,ie 10 mins off the pitch for yellow card offences.
The last World Cup was appalling. It should be the show-piece event every four years. Before it started my kids and their friends were really looking forward to watching the World Cup. They switched off en-masse before the group stages were complete. I bet that was replicated around the country. Thats why I would like to see serious change in the way in which the game is played. After all most recent World Cups have been bore-fests so South Africa 2010 was hardly the exception to the rule.

Cricket has changed radically over the past few decades. I admit its easier to do because of the one day format but I don't see why football can't embrace change. What happens if these changes are brought in and fail? Simple. You revert back to the old way of playing the game.

This is a terrible post.

Quarters? The ball's out of play enough as it is, you'd spend more time at the stadium with even less action, utter bullshit.

Referees can't manage the game as it is an get decisions right, let alone giving players sin bins for 10 minutes, the game would descend into chaos with divers and cheats.

The reasons the World Cup was shit were the 'innovations' and Blatter's stubborness, like having the World Cup played in winter in a country which should never have staged it, playing games at altitude and with a stupidly light ball ruining the quality of games, not having goal-line technology, vuvuzelas killing the atmosphere, the mockery off the offside rule and preventing a goalscoring opportunity punishable with straight reds, and so on.

So the World Cup was crap because of Blatter. What a load of bollocks. Blatter does not control how negatively the teams play. As for the sin-bins it works perfectly well in rugby. Its up to the match officials to deal with the cheating that goes on and punish it accordingly..As I've said in other posts I'm not keen on the game being played in quarters...a step too far and it won't happen anyway.. Unlike you though I'm willing to look at innovative ways to improve the game as a spectacle.
What amazes me about you is your certainty that you are always right and those with differing views are always wrong. Yet no-one knows whether any innovations would work or not until they are implemented. If they are tried and fail then you can always revert back to how things used to be.

[Silver Fox]

BLOLatter confirms he expects 2022 world cup to be played in the winter