Robert Enke

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Re: Robert Enke

by yappy » 11 Nov 2009 12:49

URZZZZZZZZ Now this may be me with my Upton Nervet hat on, so apologies if I offend anyone. However, regardless of their own personal circumstance, no one has the right to take their own life at the expense of endangering others. And it is this trend of thought that leads me to believe that Enke was completely in the wrong to do as he did. I'm sorry for expessing my opinion in this way, but afterall I suppose its a forum, where personal opinions can be expressed?!

I'm sorry for you being put in said predicament where you thought you needed to take your life, RIP.


I agree, he's left behind his wife and an eight month old adopted daughter, and as you pointed out he could have endangered others. While I appreciate losing his other daughter must have been a terrible thing, it would have been hard for his wife to deal with too, and now the wife must deal with her grief and bring up their daughter on her own.

Still it is a very sad story, and I do have genuine sympathy for him in that he felt he had to take his own life.
RIP. Thoughts with his family.

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Re: Robert Enke

by Rex » 11 Nov 2009 13:14

Sad sad story. Nothing else to add really.

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Re: Robert Enke

by Thames » 11 Nov 2009 14:20

Really sad news. It's moments like this where we realise for alot of footballers there is alot more to life than flash cars, WAG's and ludicrous wages.

RIP Robert Enke

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Re: Robert Enke

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 11 Nov 2009 14:59

God it gets worse.

His wife has come out and said that he was badly depressed after the death but refused to seek help becuase he feared it would lead to them lossing the adopted daughter.

Agree with RR, the pictures are a little too close to home.

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Re: Robert Enke

by The Prisoner » 11 Nov 2009 15:35

I have a 1 year old girl and a 3 year old boy. I can only imagine 1% of his pain. RIP.


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Re: Robert Enke

by Wide and Wonderful » 11 Nov 2009 15:37

I wasn't aware of the circumstances of the suicide (I usually have very little sympathy with those that take their own lives whilst endangering others.) when I posted my original comment.

I made an innapropriate joke in the early hours of hearing this story, and now massively regret making it.

We all say stupid things without thinking from time to time, and my comment was definitely one of those moments.

My sympathies are most definitely with this guy's family at this time, and could see why his very personal loss could reducing him to such a sad mental state and taking such tragic action.

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Re: Robert Enke

by Royal Rother » 11 Nov 2009 16:02

Fair play chap.

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Re: Robert Enke

by papereyes » 11 Nov 2009 16:56

I literally just read this and nearly cried. It's really sad.

RIP

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Re: Robert Enke

by LoyalRoyalFan » 11 Nov 2009 17:04

Very sad news.

RIP.


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Re: Robert Enke

by prostak » 11 Nov 2009 18:00

URZZZZZZZZ Now this may be me with my Upton Nervet hat on, so apologies if I offend anyone. However, regardless of their own personal circumstance, no one has the right to take their own life at the expense of endangering others. And it is this trend of thought that leads me to believe that Enke was completely in the wrong to do as he did. I'm sorry for expessing my opinion in this way, but afterall I suppose its a forum, where personal opinions can be expressed?!

I'm sorry for you being put in said predicament where you thought you needed to take your life, RIP.


How fortunate you are to be able to make such rational judgements on how others live or end their lives.

Tschuss, Robert.
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Re: Robert Enke

by Gloria Gooner » 11 Nov 2009 18:01

Dreadful news, how sad to be in such psychological distress you can't turn to someone for help. RIP.

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Re: Robert Enke

by Royal Lady » 11 Nov 2009 18:31

readingbedding He won't be.

That's nasty.




RIP - (parallels with a programme on BBC1 last night about parents of sick and disabled children.) :cry:

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Re: Robert Enke

by Kitson12 » 11 Nov 2009 22:29

readingbedding He won't be.

Not funny or clever. Horrible in fact.

This is a terrible story, my thoughts to his wife, child and how he must have been feeling before the incident happened.
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Re: Robert Enke

by soggy biscuit » 12 Nov 2009 08:57

His wife said yesterday that he refused to seek any help for his depression as he was scared that it would lead to their adopted child being taken away.

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Re: Robert Enke

by Sun Tzu » 12 Nov 2009 10:30

What a tragic tale ( and some truely tragic responses)

If you've not suffered from depression you really can;t understand it - it isn't about being a bit unhappy. Too many people bottle it up until they simply cannot cope.

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Re: Robert Enke

by Terminal Boardom » 12 Nov 2009 10:53

URZZZZZZZZ Now this may be me with my Upton Nervet hat on, so apologies if I offend anyone. However, regardless of their own personal circumstance, no one has the right to take their own life at the expense of endangering others.


I suffered from a relatively mild bout of depression just over 2 years ago. I have recovered. A tragic tale indeed but unfortunately a common one. That aside, I do understand the comment above. I can not condone taking one's own life when innocent people are involved. This is an incredibly selfish act. Can anyone consider the anguish and stress that the train driver and emergency service staff will be going through? Nothing but pain and heartache all round.

I am sorry if anyone is offended by this. It is not my intention to.

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Re: Robert Enke

by readingbedding » 12 Nov 2009 11:00

Kitson12
readingbedding He won't be.

Not funny or clever. Horrible in fact.

This is a terrible story, my thoughts to his wife, child and how he must have been feeling before the incident happened.
RIP


If some of you believe that he will see his daughter again fine, I don't believe that.
Perhaps he took his own life because he couldn't cope with the fact of not seeing his daughter again.
I didn't know him.

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Re: Robert Enke

by PEARCEY » 12 Nov 2009 21:22

Royal Rother Sometimes things reach me emotionally, sometimes they don't, but I find those pics of him with his terminally ill daughter truly soul-wrenching. :cry:



So do I. Its a terribly sad photo. Two happy faces....but so short-lived.

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Re: Robert Enke

by FiNeRaIn » 12 Nov 2009 23:18

Terrible really, when you are a kid you are protected from all of the horrible things in life and your biggest worries are school and homework. Years later down the line you get hit by something that shows you the world isn't all its cracked up to be, your friends die, get terminal illnesses - people die in freak accidents that you care about. All you hear day in and day out on the TV is negative news about wars, economy crisis and death. You just aren't sheltered from the negativity anymore. Unfortunately, you have to harden up and accept there is a lot of evil out there topped with lots of horrible events that happen that you have no control over. That said, there is also a lot of love and good people. The best way to deal with it all is think and do the things that make you happy and try and be around the things that you value in life. For some people this is a lot harder to do than others. I obviously didn't know enke or his family and I can't relate to what he's been through, I feel sorry for the latter stages of his life that he obviously knew he couldn't cope anymore and I feel devastated for his wife who has lost a child and a husband. You can go to some very dark, lonely places in your lives and sometimes there is no coming back from that. Those pictures with his daughter make me absolutely numb.

RIP Robert Enke.

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Re: Robert Enke

by Focher » 12 Nov 2009 23:30

A truly tragic story, ive had some dark times as everyone has but i still cannot comprehend how somebody can take their own life, surely there is a way out that doesn't involve death?????????

I think what makes this even more shocking is the fact that professional footballers at the top of their game don't do this, it just doesn't happen til now. At 32 he was moving into his best years as a keeper.

Ive not had a young daughter die, so of course i cannot confess to knowing what he was going through, but there is always a way out that can involve a positive, surely.

i hope that at least this tragic story can make more vulnerable people aware of anxiety and depression, and how it can be effectively dealt with before its gets to the stage Robert Enke did.

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