Man City vs Spurs

[Baines]

He works with the budget given, Pompey has been more bad ownership than bad management, a club punching way above their weight, 2 cup finals and a few seasons in the prem, is far more than they must ever have dreamed, he brings the dream to reality and then leaves in a flash of smoke.

I have a hunch that that very first point is stretching it somewhat

He can only spend what the club allows him too. If they don't manage the money sensibly, it's not really Redknapp's fault tbf.

Your special insight on matters of financial management is noted. However, bearing in mind that one of the most pleasing things about Coppell's time in charge of Reading was his apparent concern for Reading's financial well being, and his unwillingness to commit large sums of money in transfer fees or wages, one would have thought that Reading fans would be particularly alive to the dangers of profligate spenders such as Redknapp.

[Messiah]

Never the less, as a manager wanting to spend money to bring in the best available players, Redknapp spends what the board allow him to spend. Redknapp's job is to manage players, not money, and to win games. Tbf, he does that and he does it quite well. It's the board's that are responsible for what money is made available. They are accountable.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Clubs give him money cause he demands it.

Then he jumps once the cash dries up.

Know a number of people who have worked both for and with him and they all say he's the best person in the world at spending other peoples money.

[Tredder]

Question: would you, as a supporter, trade in 2 FA Cup Finals, a UEFA Cup run and 7 seasons of premiership football, for a few years of consolidation in the championship/division 1?

[Messiah]

Question: would you, as a supporter, trade in 2 FA Cup Finals (winning one), a UEFA Cup run and 7 seasons of premiership football, for a few years of consolidation in the championship/division 1?

Yes, if the club's future wasn't threatened.

[readingbedding]

Perhaps JM wasn't prepared to gamble heavily and drastically over-spend.

JM "Here's 7.5M for you Steve"
SC "No, that's far too much, I know you can't afford it. Here, give me 3M"
JM "Ok Steve, after all you know how much money I have."

Perhaps owners aren't the mental age of 5.

[Tredder]

Perhaps JM wasn't prepared to gamble heavily and drastically over-spend.

JM "Here's 7.5M for you Steve"
SC "No, that's far too much, I know you can't afford it. Here, give me 3M"
JM "Ok Steve, after all you know how much money I have."

Perhaps owners aren't the mental age of 5.

How do you get a mantal age of 5 then, 'cos i'd like their money.

[Wax Jacket]

Redknapp's job isn't to manage players on the coaching ground - he's always been a wheeler-dealer type, in on all the negotiations etc. he may not have been signing the cheques but that's a bit like saying it's not your fault your hotel on expenses is £400 a night even if there was one half the price round the corner, as it wasn't you who signed it off

[papereyes]

1) Its clearly not as black and white as being suggested by some on here

2) WJ: I only have a (relatively) limited budget, determined by my funding, for travel. It is in my interests to go budget accordingly if I want to do more than one conference a year.

3) Don't believe in coincidences.

[readingbedding]

Perhaps JM wasn't prepared to gamble heavily and drastically over-spend.

JM "Here's 7.5M for you Steve"
SC "No, that's far too much, I know you can't afford it. Here, give me 3M"
JM "Ok Steve, after all you know how much money I have."

Perhaps owners aren't the mental age of 5.

How do you get a mantal age of 5 then, 'cos i'd like their money.

???

[readingbedding]

Owners sign the cheques, Managers (unless they do own the Club) do not.

[Wax Jacket]

2) WJ: I only have a (relatively) limited budget, determined by my funding, for travel. It is in my interests to go budget accordingly if I want to do more than one conference a year.

my point is that he's clearly NOT going to a budget, I wouldn't be surprised if he's getting things agreed and signed and leaving the club officials to pick up the mess.

which is like me spending £400 on a hotel room rather than £200 and just getting my boss to sign it off, eventually either my spending ways bite me or the company on the arse. this being football (and not a normal business in the slightest) the club suffers and Redknapp swans off to spend someone else's money.

[TBM]

Never the less, as a manager wanting to spend money to bring in the best available players, Redknapp spends what the board allow him to spend. Redknapp's job is to manage players, not money, and to win games. Tbf, he does that and he does it quite well. It's the board's that are responsible for what money is made available. They are accountable.

Arsene Wenger has had about £40m to spend on players for the past 3-4 seasons now and hasn't.....he still manages to get Arsenal into the Champions League each year though

[papereyes]

2) WJ: I only have a (relatively) limited budget, determined by my funding, for travel. It is in my interests to go budget accordingly if I want to do more than one conference a year.

my point is that he's clearly NOT going to a budget, I wouldn't be surprised if he's getting things agreed and signed and leaving the club officials to pick up the mess.

which is like me spending £400 on a hotel room rather than £200 and just getting my boss to sign it off, eventually either my spending ways bite me or the company on the arse. this being football (and not a normal business in the slightest) the club suffers and Redknapp swans off to spend someone else's money.

So we're actually agreeing ...

[Messiah]

Never the less, as a manager wanting to spend money to bring in the best available players, Redknapp spends what the board allow him to spend. Redknapp's job is to manage players, not money, and to win games. Tbf, he does that and he does it quite well. It's the board's that are responsible for what money is made available. They are accountable.

Arsene Wenger has had about £40m to spend on players for the past 3-4 seasons now and hasn't.....he still manages to get Arsenal into the Champions League each year though

Quite clearly the better manager.

[Wax Jacket]

2) WJ: I only have a (relatively) limited budget, determined by my funding, for travel. It is in my interests to go budget accordingly if I want to do more than one conference a year.

my point is that he's clearly NOT going to a budget, I wouldn't be surprised if he's getting things agreed and signed and leaving the club officials to pick up the mess.

which is like me spending £400 on a hotel room rather than £200 and just getting my boss to sign it off, eventually either my spending ways bite me or the company on the arse. this being football (and not a normal business in the slightest) the club suffers and Redknapp swans off to spend someone else's money.

So we're actually agreeing ...

yeah I wasn't sure on your angle there

[Wax Jacket]

Never the less, as a manager wanting to spend money to bring in the best available players, Redknapp spends what the board allow him to spend. Redknapp's job is to manage players, not money, and to win games. Tbf, he does that and he does it quite well. It's the board's that are responsible for what money is made available. They are accountable.

Arsene Wenger has had about £40m to spend on players for the past 3-4 seasons now and hasn't.....he still manages to get Arsenal into the Champions League each year though

Quite clearly the better manager.

Arsene Wenger has also been asked to sign players within a budget and to be repsonsible for the club's financial health. can you imagine Redknapp doing the same? he'd be spiking stories about "constraints" and "lack of ambition" left right and centre

[papereyes]

So we're actually agreeing ...

yeah I wasn't sure on your angle there

Somewhere between aggressive, argumentative and autistic?

[SpaceCruiser]

I'm not a big fan of Redknapp, but I've just checked the remaining fixtures and the table. If Spurs win tonight and win on Sunday, they could finish 3rd if ArsenaLOL lose. And for that reason, I want Spurs to win tonight. It'd be funny if ArsenaLOL finish 4th and Spurs above them.

[Tredder]

Arsene Wenger has also been asked to sign players within a budget and to be repsonsible for the club's financial health. can you imagine Redknapp doing the same? he'd be spiking stories about "constraints" and "lack of ambition" left right and centre

With all respect Waxers, Wenger is more accomplished at persuading kids than Harry is