Newcastle sack Hughton....

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Silver Fox » 06 Dec 2010 21:01

Martin Jol leaves Ajax, hmmmmm

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by roadrunner » 06 Dec 2010 21:23

Silver Fox Martin Jol leaves Ajax, hmmmmm


I liked Jolly, so that would be good to see him back in the Premier League. My first thought was Martin O'Neil though. He wont get a big four club (still counting Liverpool in that, rightly or wrongly), so Newcastle has to be a tempting job for him.

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Royal With Cheese » 06 Dec 2010 22:22

roadrunner He wont get a big four club (still counting Liverpool in that, rightly or wrongly), so Newcastle has to be a tempting job for him.

Are you sure about that? I would have thought most Liverpool fans would give their right arm to have O'Neill as their manager.

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by TBM » 06 Dec 2010 22:29

Silver Fox Martin Jol leaves Ajax, hmmmmm



TBM @ 14:55 He was always going to be sacked if they made it back to the Premiership - he was the cheap option when they went down and now they are back they needed an excuse to get rid

Now they will pay over the odds for someone like Martin Jol and not even finish in the top half


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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Big Foot » 06 Dec 2010 23:13

Peter Beardsley's been given the job on a temporary basis - things are getting ugly at St James' Park...


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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 07 Dec 2010 09:54

Focher O'Neill will be in ASAP


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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Victor Meldrew » 07 Dec 2010 10:24

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roadrunner He wont get a big four club (still counting Liverpool in that, rightly or wrongly), so Newcastle has to be a tempting job for him.

Are you sure about that? I would have thought most Liverpool fans would give their right arm to have O'Neill as their manager.


Don't think so-too much of a long-ball advocate and although youthful in outlook and appearance he is now knocking on a bit and Woy is gradually winning the fans and players over.
I would love it if Pardew were to get the job at Newcastle-it would be good to be playing them again next season-especially with how those Geordies felt about Wisey and the London mafia at their club.

As others have said the good thing is that Hughton will probably get a fair wedge (especially if he agrees to keep his mouth shut) and a job at a decent Championship side should be his for the taking especially with uneasy manager/board relations at a number of clubs including Ipswich and Forest.

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Ferris » 07 Dec 2010 10:47

Pards is now favourite...

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Mr Angry » 07 Dec 2010 11:33

Quite simply one of the single most stupid decisions taken by any Chairman for a long, long time, and shows how utterly clueless Ashley is.

Its almost as if he and his advisors thought "hmmmmm - we haven't been in the papers recently, what can we do to get some publicity??"

As for the reason given - "we want a more experienced manager", is that why Ashley employed Shearer for 6 games in their relegation season? They will have to give Hughton a huge pay-off, cos if any manager ever had a genuine case for unfair dismissal, this is it.


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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Y21_Royal » 07 Dec 2010 12:12

Why do people keep assuming he'll have got a bid pay off? His contract was up at the end of the season anyway and I'm sure one of the reasons he's been dispensed with so easily is because they were able to do it cheaply.

I hope Martin Jol doesn't get it simply because I really like him and I would rather hate Newcastle for this decision

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Toon Toon Blue army » 07 Dec 2010 12:37

Complete madness, when will they ever learn?

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by TBM » 07 Dec 2010 12:46

Y21_Royal Why do people keep assuming he'll have got a bid pay off? His contract was up at the end of the season anyway and I'm sure one of the reasons he's been dispensed with so easily is because they were able to do it cheaply.

I hope Martin Jol doesn't get it simply because I really like him and I would rather hate Newcastle for this decision


I heard the LMA are currently negotiating his pay off for him.....

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Whore Jackie » 07 Dec 2010 12:48

Richard Williams in today's Guardian Mike Ashley has now seen off five managers in just under three years as the owner of Newcastle United. Perhaps he is in a race with Milan Mandaric, who went through six managers in his three-and-a-half years at Leicester City. These people are a disgrace to football.

To suggest that trust and continuity once bound a club and its community together is to sound like a hopeless romantic, drunk on nostalgia. And of course managerial sackings are not something that started to happen only after the Premier League came into existence. But all the available evidence suggests that the ability to make a decision and stick to it, maintaining faith even in difficult times, is more effective than a restless desire to use decent, gifted, experienced men like Chris Hughton as disposable lightbulbs.

Ashley can, of course, do exactly as he likes, having been willing to sink more than £200m of his own money into the club. But it is probably fair to say that had Ashley run his Sports Direct business in the way he and his cohorts have run Newcastle, there would never have been the £200m in the first place.

Operating in a highly competitive sphere, he employs 20,000 people in the UK and four years ago his company became the country's largest sportswear retailer. You know his brands: as well as the Sports Direct and Lillywhites outlets, he owns Dunlop, Slazenger, Donnay, Lonsdale, Kangol and Karrimor, most of them bought in what amounted to fire sales. Ashley is an expert in taking a trademark that once stood for British-made quality and outsourcing the production to the Far East.

But does he know how to run a football club? The evidence points to only one answer, which is that even when he makes a good decision, he quickly undermines it. In May 2007 he bought Sir John Hall's 41.6% stake in Newcastle for about £55m. Stock exchange rules obliged him to make an offer for the rest, and to achieve 100% ownership cost him a further £79m. Only then did he begin to discover the extent of the liabilities at St James' Park.

The supporters were pleased when he made his first managerial change, sacking Sam Allardyce in January 2008 and bringing in Kevin Keegan. Allardyce was not popular with the fans, but a man of his experience and achievements deserved a longer run – particularly since he was trying to lay the foundations for long-term stability. Hiring Keegan was a populist move which was promptly destroyed by the appointment of Dennis Wise, a man with no previous connection to either Newcastle or Keegan, as executive director (football).

Keegan left in September of the same year, initiating action, through the Premier League's arbitration panel, which eventually forced Ashley to pay him £2m in compensation. On his departure the owner immediately announced plans to sell the club, but despite an expedition to the Middle East in search of a buyer, that Christmas the club was taken off the market. Following Joe Kinnear's health problems, the short-term appointment of Alan Shearer merely accelerated a decline which culminated in relegation.

Efforts to sell Newcastle continued, however, until Ashley took the club off the market again in October 2009, just as Hughton, who had stepped into the breach as caretaker manager on three occasions, was winning the job on a permanent basis as a result of his work in laying the foundations for a return to the Premier League at the first time of asking.

This season Hughton's Newcastle have beaten Aston Villa 6-0 in the league, removed Chelsea from the League Cup with a 4-3 win at Stamford Bridge, won 1-0 at both Goodison Park and the Emirates, held Chelsea to a 1-1 draw at St James' Park at a time when the London side were anxious to reverse a slump in their own form, and thrashed Sunderland 5-1 in the Tyne-Wear derby. Something must have been happening to inspire these results.

Perhaps the hardest to manage of all England's leading clubs, Newcastle are built on legends and myths. Sometimes the owners and the fans find it difficult to differentiate between the two, and the task for a manager in the current era is complicated by a dressing room that has long given the impression of resembling the Augean stables. Given the club's inherent volatility, Hughton performed a great deal more creditably than his employers, whose bad decisions are now so numerous that it is hard to imagine them ever making a good one.


Spot on.


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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Skyline » 07 Dec 2010 13:32

Whore Jackie
Richard Williams in today's Guardian Allardyce was not popular with the fans, but a man of his experience and achievements deserved a longer run


He was doing so well until this bit.

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Svlad Cjelli » 07 Dec 2010 14:38

Martin Jol has already been sighted wearing a Newcastle shirt :


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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Royal With Cheese » 07 Dec 2010 16:33

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roadrunner He wont get a big four club (still counting Liverpool in that, rightly or wrongly), so Newcastle has to be a tempting job for him.

Are you sure about that? I would have thought most Liverpool fans would give their right arm to have O'Neill as their manager.


Don't think so-too much of a long-ball advocate and although youthful in outlook and appearance he is now knocking on a bit and Woy is gradually winning the fans and players over.

What a difference a couple of weeks makes. In November Liverpool fans were ringing TalkSport in their droves telling that ginger twat Durham the job was too big for Hodgson.

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Mr Angry » 07 Dec 2010 16:40

I was speaking to a Liverpool fan last night in the bar of the hotel I'm staying at as we watched the game; I said that Hodgson needed time to turn Liverpool around as he had inherited so many average players - the guy said "he has already had enough time and wasted millions".

Just :shock:

Fans who voice those sort of opinions really get what they deserve.

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by TBM » 07 Dec 2010 16:49

Mr Angry and wasted millions


:? :|

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by Mr Angry » 07 Dec 2010 16:51

TBM
Mr Angry and wasted millions


:? :|


Yet wouldn't hear a word against Benitez, and seemed to have completely forgotton about Aquilani.

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Re: Newcastle sack Hughton....

by readingbedding » 07 Dec 2010 16:57

A face like an alcoholic's Liver.


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