England v Chile 15/11/13

[Victor Meldrew]

Not cynical in the sense that he did it for reasons more than being pissed off at a player who was bullying him. Not cynical in the sense it was unsporting.

I'd agree the Cahil one wasn't a cynical 'tactical' foul but I also agree that it's not something we shy away from either, hence the often used phrases of 'a good foul to concede' and 'taking one for the team'.

The point that the South Americans have always been happy to do the same thing is quite right though.

Paul Scholes anybody?

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Not cynical in the sense that he did it for reasons more than being pissed off at a player who was bullying him. Not cynical in the sense it was unsporting.

I'd agree the Cahil one wasn't a cynical 'tactical' foul but I also agree that it's not something we shy away from either, hence the often used phrases of 'a good foul to concede' and 'taking one for the team'.

The point that the South Americans have always been happy to do the same thing is quite right though.

Paul Scholes anybody?

Better than Lampard.

[Big Foot]

I'd agree the Cahil one wasn't a cynical 'tactical' foul but I also agree that it's not something we shy away from either, hence the often used phrases of 'a good foul to concede' and 'taking one for the team'.

The point that the South Americans have always been happy to do the same thing is quite right though.

Paul Scholes anybody?

Better than Lampard.

At reckless fouling and getting sent off, missing a key game? Yup, I'd agree.

[sandman]

[TBM]

lol @ saying Scholes was better for England than Lampard

There was a reason Scholes kept being played out of position....

[No Fixed Abode]

lol @ saying Scholes was better for England than Lampard

There was a reason Scholes kept being played out of position....

Lampard was voted England player of the year in 2004 and 2005. Scholes has never won it. Some people's memories are very short. Judging Franks England career just on the latter part.

[Big Foot]

lol @ saying Scholes was better for England than Lampard

There was a reason Scholes kept being played out of position....

Lampard was voted England player of the year in 2004 and 2005. Scholes has never won it. Some people's memories are very short. Judging Franks England career just on the latter part.

This ^

Not forgetting the fact that it was the uprising of Lampard that played a big role in Scholes being moved out to the left wing before letting his country down and retiring.

[stealthpapes]

lol @ saying Scholes was better for England than Lampard....

I agree

There was a reason Scholes kept being played out of position....

yes, and its pretty damning for English football.