Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

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Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by cmonurz » 30 Oct 2010 22:48

Play to the whistle and all that, but the officials dealt Spurs a stinker there.

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Maguire » 30 Oct 2010 22:51

Terrible decision. How is that not handball?

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Ginger Ninjas » 30 Oct 2010 22:52

Although why was Gomes trying to take a free kick 10 yards from the handball? Comical. Anyway, at least it keeps the title race alive

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by TBM » 30 Oct 2010 22:55

Hmmm was handball but ref was saying play on, as they got the ball. If the keeper did play on but kicks it against a player which then goes into the net, a goal would be given so no different really

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by FiNeRaIn » 30 Oct 2010 23:21

Just an embarrassing goal for football, should never have stood in a million years.


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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by PlasticRoyale » 30 Oct 2010 23:39

Play to the whistle....hardly sporting though

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by John Madejski's Wallet » 30 Oct 2010 23:54

Surely if the ref has seen the handball and is playing advantage, he has to indicate with his arms that it is play-on?

Rather than make no gesticulations at all.


I did like the ref throwing him arm in the air in frustration when the goal went in (just before pointing to centre circle). You could tell he knew he'd f*cked up and that he had to give the goal

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Tony Le Mesmer » 31 Oct 2010 01:16

FiNeRaIn Just an embarrassing goal for football, should never have stood in a million years.


The referee did not have 1 single reason to disallow the goal. If he had hed probably been struck off.

I got told to play to the whistle when i was 9. If Gomez just punts the ball up field the only talking point would have been whether it was a pen or not.

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by FiNeRaIn » 31 Oct 2010 01:26

Um..it was a handball, surely thats reason enough? If he played advantage fine...but was there an advantage? No. The ball ended up in the back of the net conceding a goal is not an advantage is it? Oh and LOL at him telling the tottenham players to go away yet says nothing to rio ferdinand standing their barking at the linesman and himself. Pathetic.


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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Tony Le Mesmer » 31 Oct 2010 01:45

He didnt play advantage. Just got the pen/handball incident wrong.

So you think he should go back to a previous incident and change his mind, just because Gomez fcked up?

Agree about Ferdinand though. I hate him.

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by No Fixed Abode » 31 Oct 2010 02:11

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Row Z Royal » 31 Oct 2010 08:35

Tony Le Mesmer He didnt play advantage. Just got the pen/handball incident wrong.

So you think he should go back to a previous incident and change his mind, just because Gomez fcked up?



I'm in the 'play to the whistle camp' but for argument's sake, how many times have we seen advantage played for several passes, the ball lost and then brought back for the free kick?

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Stranded » 31 Oct 2010 08:58

Tony Le Mesmer He didnt play advantage. Just got the pen/handball incident wrong.

So you think he should go back to a previous incident and change his mind, just because Gomez fcked up?

Agree about Ferdinand though. I hate him.


I think he was, hence the discussion with the lino who clearly told him there was an handball - he appears to say that he was aware of that but had played on as Gomes had the ball in his hands. Gomes made a mistake by putting the ball down without having heard a whistle - end of.


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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Big Foot » 31 Oct 2010 09:11

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Tony Le Mesmer He didnt play advantage. Just got the pen/handball incident wrong.

So you think he should go back to a previous incident and change his mind, just because Gomez fcked up?

Agree about Ferdinand though. I hate him.


I think he was, hence the discussion with the lino who clearly told him there was an handball - he appears to say that he was aware of that but had played on as Gomes had the ball in his hands. Gomes made a mistake by putting the ball down without having heard a whistle - end of.

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Royal Rother » 31 Oct 2010 09:44

FiNeRaIn Um..it was a handball, surely thats reason enough? If he played advantage fine...but was there an advantage? No.


There was a definite advantage there to be taken if he had taken the kick quickly with Man Utd out of position and Spurs streaming forward.

The error was Gomes' and Clattenburg did nothing wrong. Except allowing Ferdinand anywhere near the discussion with the lino and that was very very poor on his part.

Also, why didn't he book Scholes for manhandling him when he didn't give the pen? If that had been a no-mark player from Wigan he'd have seen yellow. Not fair.

So I do think he showed favouritism towards Man Utd during the incident but not in awarding the goal.

Hey ho.

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Big Foot » 31 Oct 2010 10:04

Royal Rother
FiNeRaIn Um..it was a handball, surely thats reason enough? If he played advantage fine...but was there an advantage? No.


There was a definite advantage there to be taken if he had taken the kick quickly with Man Utd out of position and Spurs streaming forward.

The error was Gomes' and Clattenburg did nothing wrong. Except allowing Ferdinand anywhere near the discussion with the lino and that was very very poor on his part.

Also, why didn't he book Scholes for manhandling him when he didn't give the pen? If that had been a no-mark player from Wigan he'd have seen yellow. Not fair.

So I do think he showed favouritism towards Man Utd during the incident but not in awarding the goal.

Hey ho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeJV_l35Pbg (Huddlestone vs Fulham)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9egkG3b7Lxk (Nani vs United)

Both instances the team who scored had player(s) involved with the officials

The old phrase "these things tend to even themselves out over the course of a season" springs to mind

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Royal Rother » 31 Oct 2010 10:25

Not really comparable. Player(s) from both teams came over at the end of the ref's discussion in Huddlestone's goal, whereas everyone from Spurs had been waved away only for Ferdinand (not even their captain) to be allowed to get within a yard of them.

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by Big Foot » 31 Oct 2010 10:37

Royal Rother Not really comparable. Player(s) from both teams came over at the end of the ref's discussion in Huddlestone's goal, whereas everyone from Spurs had been waved away only for Ferdinand (not even their captain) to be allowed to get within a yard of them.
They are comparable in that the linesmen both made wrong calls and whilst he and the ref discussed the decision; player(s) from the team who gained were present.

Correct decision in both cases too FWIW

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by TBM » 31 Oct 2010 10:51

Thing is, lino didn't flag for the handball - ref didn't give the handball.........so why did Spurs presume that a free kick was given. Ok i know it was obvious but without the whistle being blown to indicate a free kick to Tottenham then how can they disput it?

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Re: Weekend Soccerball 30th Oct

by cmonurz » 31 Oct 2010 11:11

Common sense should apply. Nani didn't just fall on the ball with his hand, he deliberately stopped it. Everyone knows it was a free-kick and the laws of the fame should be flexible enough that Clattenburg would not get carpeted for making a decision to disallow the goal. Embarassing.

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