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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Sutekh » 18 Jun 2023 07:17

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Pepe the Horseman Exactly. Can't understand how he got the Southampton job in the first place, but even more confused as to why we think he's a suitable candidate.


He was Hasenhutl's assistant and was basically given the job on an interim basis after Hasenhutl was sacked. Suggests Southampton knew they were pretty much fcuked.

Don't think you can judge him too much on his record at Southampton but it is a somewhat strange and underwhelming appointment if he does indeed get the job.

Didn't he take over from Jones, not Hasenhutl? Did he leave and come back, or was he still knocking about?


His CV has nothing of any real note apart from a load of assistant manager gigs at nothing clubs to nobody managers and a spell as a data analyst in Norway.

wiki says On 10 June 2022, Sellés departed Copenhagen to join Premier League club Southampton, as assistant to Ralph Hasenhüttl. On 7 November, Hasenhüttl was sacked by Southampton, and Sellés was placed in caretaker charge of the club. Sellés took charge of one match for The Saints before the appointment of new manager Nathan Jones, a 1–1 draw against Sheffield Wednesday in the EFL Cup on 9 November – in which Southampton advanced to the next round after a penalty shootout.

He again took temporary charge of the team after Jones was sacked in February 2023. His first game in charge was a 1–0 away victory over Chelsea. On 24 February, Sellés was appointed manager until the end of the 2022–23 season. On 24 May 2023, Southampton confirmed that they would not renew Sellés contract when it expired at the end of the season.


Said it earlier, this is exactly the sort of appointment that Reading should be avoiding like the plague.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by From Despair To Where? » 18 Jun 2023 08:31

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Pepe the Horseman Exactly. Can't understand how he got the Southampton job in the first place, but even more confused as to why we think he's a suitable candidate.


He was Hasenhutl's assistant and was basically given the job on an interim basis after Hasenhutl was sacked. Suggests Southampton knew they were pretty much fcuked.

Don't think you can judge him too much on his record at Southampton but it is a somewhat strange and underwhelming appointment if he does indeed get the job.

Didn't he take over from Jones, not Hasenhutl? Did he leave and come back, or was he still knocking about?


Yeah, you're right, my mistake. I think he had a couple of games as caretaker between Hasenhutl and Jones. I suspect this would be an appointment more indicative of our situation than any belief that he is an ideal candidate but as with any, I'd back him until proven unbackable, as I suspect the quality of our playing squad will be a bigger concern than the quality of our coaching this season.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2023 09:18

morganb I've seen Selles described as a good coach but not a good manager (akin to Clement)

What's the distinction between a manager and a coach if Bowen et al are handling the transfer side of things?

Coaches deliver training. Managers set tactical approach, pick teams and manage games.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Elm Park Kid » 18 Jun 2023 10:05

I'm surprised we haven't seen more backlash about Selles. Is it just the fans being blinded by a manager with PL background, the same as the owners?

This is clearly a massive mistake to go down the same route as our previous appointments. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising the guy himself, maybe he has the potential to be a solid manager. But we are in crisis and desperately need someone who can inspire confidence from the start. Not another spin of the roulette wheel.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Millsy » 18 Jun 2023 12:03

Couldn't be bothered to find my multiple posts ripping the piss out of fans here for actually believing we'll get anyone half decent and will instead some total BS person but I did, and here we are.

What the **** are we doing even entertaining the idea of Selles. The sort of bs even worse than the sort of BS we're already used to.

Hardly any expericne and what he has is shite.

P17 W2 D4 L11 win percentage 11.76% (yes 11 losses out of 17, and win percentage of eleven point six percent. eleven point six)

This makes Ince and Pauno look like gods.

Totally baffled.

Dai - just **** off.


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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2023 12:15

Elm Park Kid I'm surprised we haven't seen more backlash about Selles. Is it just the fans being blinded by a manager with PL background, the same as the owners?

This is clearly a massive mistake to go down the same route as our previous appointments. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising the guy himself, maybe he has the potential to be a solid manager. But we are in crisis and desperately need someone who can inspire confidence from the start. Not another spin of the roulette wheel.

Ask me when it actually happens and I can be bothered to find out anything about him.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2023 12:16

Millsy Couldn't be bothered to find my multiple posts ripping the piss out of fans here for actually believing we'll get anyone half decent and will instead some total BS person but I did, and here we are.

What the **** are we doing even entertaining the idea of Selles. The sort of bs even worse than the sort of BS we're already used to.

Hardly any expericne and what he has is shite.

P17 W2 D4 L11 win percentage 11.76% (yes 11 losses out of 17, and win percentage of eleven point six percent. eleven point six)

This makes Ince and Pauno look like gods.

Totally baffled.

Dai - just **** off.

To be fair, it looks like everything was in place for the best possible pick in Wilder, before someone drilled another hole in the boat.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Millsy » 18 Jun 2023 12:19

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Millsy Couldn't be bothered to find my multiple posts ripping the piss out of fans here for actually believing we'll get anyone half decent and will instead some total BS person but I did, and here we are.

What the **** are we doing even entertaining the idea of Selles. The sort of bs even worse than the sort of BS we're already used to.

Hardly any expericne and what he has is shite.

P17 W2 D4 L11 win percentage 11.76% (yes 11 losses out of 17, and win percentage of eleven point six percent. eleven point six)

This makes Ince and Pauno look like gods.

Totally baffled.

Dai - just **** off.

To be fair, it looks like everything was in place for the best possible pick in Wilder, before someone drilled another hole in the boat.


True, ok he evidently tried. But he didn't pull it off, which is no surprise to me.

But to go from that to someoen like Selles?

There's literally not a worse appointment possible. Just get an unknown in, if you're gonna do that. Why someone who is known to be a total loser? Been off for a few days, not trawled through everything, but am seriously hoping I'm echoing the general sentiments here and am not some sort of outlier on this one.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2023 12:25

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Millsy Couldn't be bothered to find my multiple posts ripping the piss out of fans here for actually believing we'll get anyone half decent and will instead some total BS person but I did, and here we are.

What the **** are we doing even entertaining the idea of Selles. The sort of bs even worse than the sort of BS we're already used to.

Hardly any expericne and what he has is shite.

P17 W2 D4 L11 win percentage 11.76% (yes 11 losses out of 17, and win percentage of eleven point six percent. eleven point six)

This makes Ince and Pauno look like gods.

Totally baffled.

Dai - just **** off.

To be fair, it looks like everything was in place for the best possible pick in Wilder, before someone drilled another hole in the boat.


True, ok he evidently tried. But he didn't pull it off, which is no surprise to me.

But to go from that to someoen like Selles?

There's literally not a worse appointment possible. Just get an unknown in, if you're gonna do that. Why someone who is known to be a total loser? Been off for a few days, not trawled through everything, but am seriously hoping I'm echoing the general sentiments here and am not some sort of outlier on this one.

Of course there are worse possible appointments.

There's a lot of shit thrown at the wall, attention seeking and panicking, so until we get something solid I'm not interested in who the latest twitter/bookie favourite is. Thoroughly bored of the feeding frenzy of speculation and rage.


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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by blythspartan » 18 Jun 2023 12:37

I’m going to stop looking at twitter as it’s full of bullsh*t and doom mongers. The only thing I have been told by someone I trust is not to expect too much in the way of signings.

If Selles is appointed tomorrow or anytime soon I will be livid but I’ll give him a chance to prove me wrong. It’s no good moaning about it as nothing will change. At least they made a genuine attempt to recruit Wilder.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2023 12:57

Who moved the goal posts is pretty sound from what I remember so we may need to batten down the shit storm hatches.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by SCIAG » 18 Jun 2023 13:35

I see we're reaching whole new heights of bedwetting...

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Hound » 18 Jun 2023 14:26

If Bowen has fully researched him and felt he was the best candidate then I’m ok with it

Obvs if it’s sone ridiculous agent led choice then absolutely not


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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by windermereROYAL » 18 Jun 2023 14:31

blythspartan I’m going to stop looking at twitter as it’s full of bullsh*t and doom mongers. The only thing I have been told by someone I trust is not to expect too much in the way of signings.
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You can`t say someone ITK without telling us how they are ITK, do they work for the club, are as I suspect passing on rumours from their uncles friends auntie?

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Sutekh » 18 Jun 2023 14:44

Glen Hoddle and Kevin Keegan are both available, both a step up from the latest name doing the rounds.

Still clinging to the hope that a deal for Wilder can be worked out now MB is back.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by blythspartan » 18 Jun 2023 14:44

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blythspartan I’m going to stop looking at twitter as it’s full of bullsh*t and doom mongers. The only thing I have been told by someone I trust is not to expect too much in the way of signings.
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You can`t say someone ITK without telling us how they are ITK, do they work for the club, are as I suspect passing on rumours from their uncles friends auntie?


It’s a very good mate who worked for TV Trader many years ago and still keeps in touch with some of the old Reading hierarchy. I asked him if he had heard anything and he said not to get too excited about any new signings. A day later Nixon tweeted about our budget not being as good as first thought.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Millsy » 18 Jun 2023 15:05

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Snowflake Royal To be fair, it looks like everything was in place for the best possible pick in Wilder, before someone drilled another hole in the boat.


True, ok he evidently tried. But he didn't pull it off, which is no surprise to me.

But to go from that to someoen like Selles?

There's literally not a worse appointment possible. Just get an unknown in, if you're gonna do that. Why someone who is known to be a total loser? Been off for a few days, not trawled through everything, but am seriously hoping I'm echoing the general sentiments here and am not some sort of outlier on this one.

Of course there are worse possible appointments.

There's a lot of shit thrown at the wall, attention seeking and panicking, so until we get something solid I'm not interested in who the latest twitter/bookie favourite is. Thoroughly bored of the feeding frenzy of speculation and rage.


Ok so just to clarify (genuine Q, I've not been keeping up with it beyond random headlines tbh), you'd be totally fine with the appointment of Selles, thnk it'd be a sound appointment? Or you're saying not to trust what we read yet, it's all just speculation and not to worry yet?

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by The Royal Forester » 18 Jun 2023 15:10

Sutekh Glen Hoddle and Kevin Keegan are both available, both a step up from the latest name doing the rounds.

Still clinging to the hope that a deal for Wilder can be worked out now MB is back.

I would let go of that hope if I were you. I suspect Chris Wilder heard the latest bombshells that came out in the last few days has put him off the job and has said, "No thank you" . The words may have been different, but they amount to the same thing! Is MB back now? if so that scotches a lot of the rumours floating about lately.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Mid Sussex Royal » 18 Jun 2023 15:20

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Sutekh Glen Hoddle and Kevin Keegan are both available, both a step up from the latest name doing the rounds.

Still clinging to the hope that a deal for Wilder can be worked out now MB is back.

I would let go of that hope if I were you. I suspect Chris Wilder heard the latest bombshells that came out in the last few days has put him off the job and has said, "No thank you" . The words may have been different, but they amount to the same thing! Is MB back now? if so that scotches a lot of the rumours floating about lately.


Bowen was back Friday according to Dellor

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Royal_jimmy » 18 Jun 2023 17:32

I said before we sacked Ince that whilst I wanted him gone I didn't trust Dai to appoint the right manage, I could well be right.

It's clear the problem in the club is him and Pang. Neither of them are fit or knowledgeable to run a football club and need to go. Dai needs to find a buyer ASAP.

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