New Stadium / Parking

[RoyalBlue]

Do you not think they laid on trains according to the numbers expected, and will run more for 90k crowds ?

If they did, then they got it wrong. On the Chiltern Line trains were pulling into stations with doors locked and refusing to let anyone on. This was 2.5-3 hours before kickoff.

I don't believe the railways have the capacity in terms of line space and/or trains to lay on an extra 50% when they go for the full capacity 90,000.

Also, as I mentioned previously, take a look at the new 'increased' hourly capacities of the 3 stations serving Wembley. Unless the fans stagger their journies in a very neat manner and in the appropriate ratios for each station, I think they are going to really struggle to cope.

I'm not sure who else should pay for Green Park station other than the Pru/ RFC. Would it be right for the rate payers to fund a facility that would only be used by clients of a small number of commercial operations.

Isn't the term 'public transport'? Isn't the intent that it should take the public/rate payer/tax payer to where they want to go, whether it be work or social related?

And what about all the taxes that the public and commercial operations already pay? Oh I forgot, they go into funding the very generous final pensionable salary pension schemes and early retirement fund for the thieving politicians who tell us we must use public transport!

[Behindu]

They always used to have extra tube trains running on the Wembley lines...
After games they would be stacked up outside the stations.

Pre match you can expect travel to be spread pretty widely over a 3 hour period, it's after the game that the rush is concentrated.

Advocating use of cars is a crazy answer to it - car was always a pretty poor way of getting to Wembley and there were never going to be ways to make it easier.

Clearly the tube network can adjust to demand as on many lines trains run at different intervals at different times of the day. Whether the branch line in from Watford can I don;t know, but I do know the Uxbridge line seemed to cope so maybe it will take time for people to work out the best routes. It won't take long for people to suss out the way to get in with minimum fuss...

[Behindu]

Isn't the term 'public transport'? Isn't the intent that it should take the public/rate payer/tax payer to where they want to go, whether it be work or social related? !

No. If it was it would consist of a car and driver waiting outside every house....

Get real !!!

[1960]

Why don't more people walk? Its not a bad walk in all honesty.

Why do people have to drive to the match? Can't they car-share?

I do share - with my son. Just over an hour in the car. If I walked it would take approximately 9 or 10 hours. If I went by public transport it would be: 10 minute walk - train - tube - another train - bus.

As someone said, we don't all live near Reading.

[RG30]

Why don't more people walk? Its not a bad walk in all honesty.

Why do people have to drive to the match? Can't they car-share?

I do share - with my son. Just over an hour in the car. If I walked it would take approximately 9 or 10 hours. If I went by public transport it would be: 10 minute walk - train - tube - another train - bus.

As someone said, we don't all live near Reading.

That's fine, you live far away but there are bound to be supporters who live in the Reading area that have car park ST's or still turn up and park nearby who are probably a short bus ride away from town but will still drive.

It's a 2 way process, if the club offered a small discount eg small percentage reduction on bus fare for match ticket holders then it might encourage people to make use of public transport, or alternatively organise a free park and ride scheme in conjunction with the match ticket, like they do at Brighton for instance.

[Wycombe Royal]

I only live in Winnersh, about 6 miles from the stadium but I drive. But as I have to drop my daughter off at my parents house en-route and pick her up again afterwards it makes the use of public transport very difficult.

So you see, even if you live near the stadium there will always be circumstances that prevent many from not using their car.

[Dirk Gently]

That may be true, but the vast majority of people driving to one central location is always going to create problems.

The only real solution that will work is actually a range of solutions, which de-concentrates the cars.

This needs to include -
- good frequent and cheap shuttles of some sort from Reading town centre for those using trains and buses to there.
- numerous park and ride facilities (e.g M4 J12, Winnersh, Shinfield Park (FW), somewhere south of J11)
- more use of buses from outlying towns (Bracknell, Newbury, Basingstoke) etc that people trust fully.

Only with such a combination of solutions can the transport problems be solved.

But the suggestion that there needs to be more on-site parking available is ludicrous - that will only create bigger jams and more delays and disruption

(But there will always be people who feel they have the divine right to drive right to the gate, park anywhere they like and then moan like hell to all and sundry if it takes time to get out of the car park - they are actually part of the problem!)

[Huntley & Palmer]

We need a God damn monorail

[M4 Junction 11]

We need a God damn monorail

or a Madejski train station

[Dirk Gently]

Wouldn't help that much - that would only help people come from or via the town centre.

Decentralisation is the word.

[Rhys The Royal]

Wouldn't help that much - that would only help people come from or via the town centre.

Decentralisation is the word.

Or from Basingstoke

[Dirk Gently]

Wouldn't help that much - that would only help people come from or via the town centre.

Decentralisation is the word.

Or from Basingstoke

A monorail from Basingstoke??

[westendgirl]

Isn't the term 'public transport'? Isn't the intent that it should take the public/rate payer/tax payer to where they want to go, whether it be work or social related?

But historically the rail network has always been financed by private companies - in fact the most 'public' effect was when dear Mr Beeching took as axe to the privately funded system that had been privatised.

[Rhys The Royal]

Wouldn't help that much - that would only help people come from or via the town centre.

Decentralisation is the word.

Or from Basingstoke

A monorail from Basingstoke??

No. I thought you ment the Madejski train station wouldn't help much becuase it would only help people from town centre. But you didn't. So that's OK then.