What is your ethnic group, do you have a god, are you HIV+?

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What is your ethnic group, do you have a god, are you HIV+?

by cheeryoleary » 20 Apr 2007 12:16

On the paper season ticket renewal I received in the mail this morning, I am asked to identify my ethnic group (e.g. White British), my religion, and whether I have a disability - including reference to 'HIV, Cancer and Multiple Sclerosis'

This is in the name of 'Equal Opportunity Monitoring'

If that is the case and Reading FC is 'commited to preventing discrimination ...... on the grounds of ...... sexual orientation (and) marital status', then why am I not asked if I'm straight, gay, bi, and/or married?

What do you think?

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by Stranded » 20 Apr 2007 12:19

I think you are bi.

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Re: What is your ethnic group, do you have a god, are you HI

by RIP ELM Park » 20 Apr 2007 12:20

cheeryoleary On the paper season ticket renewal I received in the mail this morning, I am asked to identify my ethnic group (e.g. White British), my religion, and whether I have a disability - including reference to 'HIV, Cancer and Multiple Sclerosis'

This is in the name of 'Equal Opportunity Monitoring'

If that is the case and Reading FC is 'commited to preventing discrimination ...... on the grounds of ...... sexual orientation (and) marital status', then why am I not asked if I'm straight, gay, bi, and/or married?

What do you think?


They already know you're Gay?

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by southbank1871 » 20 Apr 2007 12:32

Does it ask if you've got the good AIDS or the bad AIDS?

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by Silver Fox » 20 Apr 2007 12:39

I knew I should have had a bet on this thread starting as soon as I looked at the form :roll:


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by Royal Lady » 20 Apr 2007 12:47

Equal Opportunity Monitoring?? So they find out who's gay, for example, and get a steward or someone to make sure they're not being treated differently when being told to sit down, or being served a luke warm lager? I think it's disgraceful. What does being gay, having aids or MS have to do with ANYONE else, particularly at a football ground?

EDIT: I note now I've read it again, they DON'T ask if you're gay. Which in actual fact then, is not equal opportunity monitoring anyway, because what about people who are!! :wink:

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by Behindu » 20 Apr 2007 12:49

Surely it makes it more likely that you will be disciminated against if the fact that you may be part of some minority is declared ?

Based on the form they can't tell if you are gay, or have an illness or what the colour of your skin or reigion is (OK if your name is Mohammed Ali there is a clue, or if you are the Revd Green).

Once the info is available it could allow someone to bin all the applications in which the person is (say) Welsh.

I'm sure they cannot store it at an individual level, but is it actually of any use ?

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by Skin » 20 Apr 2007 12:49

What a disgrace, I won' t be answering any of those out of principal.

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by Huntley & Palmer » 20 Apr 2007 12:55

I burned this piece of paper along with an effigy of the ticket office manager in protest.


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by Skyline » 20 Apr 2007 12:56

Spacey will have a problem answering - there's no option for Klingon.

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by cheeryoleary » 20 Apr 2007 13:00

Behindu Based on the form they can't tell if you ..... have an illness or what the colour of your skin or reigion is


Apart from the questions

What is your 'Religion' and 'What is your ethnic group?' and 'Do you consider that you have a disability'

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by Skin » 20 Apr 2007 13:02

Huntley & Palmer I burned this piece of paper along with an effigy of the ticket office manager in protest.


But then they know you're Indian.

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by Huntley & Palmer » 20 Apr 2007 14:18

Just don't try and kiss my missus


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by Tony Le Mesmer » 20 Apr 2007 14:19

I think they're more likely to bin your application if your a white single male aged 20-35.

Or am i being just cynical?

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by Winchester Royal » 20 Apr 2007 14:24

Tony Le Mesmer I think they're more likely to bin your application if your a white single male aged 20-35.

Or am i being just cynical?


No, I don't think you are.

The club will probably look more favourably on new applications from families.

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by Dirk Gently » 20 Apr 2007 14:49

Ever thought it might be that the club are being pressured by some outside body to produce stats on the ethnice diversity of their support?

It may or may not be Reading Borough Council, the FA, the Premier League, etc etc - or someone else , but I very much doubt that this is something that RFC would be doing for their own benefit.

As long as people pay them I doubt if they care about their ethnic diversity or sexual preferences etc....

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by RoyalBlue » 20 Apr 2007 14:55

Dirk Gently Ever thought it might be that the club are being pressured by some outside body to produce stats on the ethnice diversity of their support?

It may or may not be Reading Borough Council, the FA, the Premier League, etc etc - or someone else , but I very much doubt that this is something that RFC would be doing for their own benefit.


I'm sure you are right but as there is no legal requirement for the club to undertake such monitoring they could have told that body to take a hike. That is particularly the case if is the idiots at RBC. What have they done to help the club/supporters recently? And who needs whom more? I suspect RBC need RFC (aka Mr M) far more than the other way around.

As for those who dislike this sort of thing, either ignore the questions or, if you are worried about reprisals,complete them with false information to render the whole politically correct exercise useless!

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by Dirk Gently » 20 Apr 2007 14:57

But what do the club stand to gain by pissing off any of those bodies or authorities?.

They're sure to need something off them at some stage, even if they do have the right to refuse, so it'd be short-sighted to risk losing their goodwill.

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by cheeryoleary » 20 Apr 2007 15:03

Dirk Gently Ever thought it might be that the club are being pressured by some outside body to produce stats on the ethnice diversity of their support?


Who can say? If this were true, I would prefer that RFC tell this mob to take a hike. I don't get asked to supply this information when I register to vote, or when I apply for a credit card, so why should I be asked by a football club.

Perhaps the club will employ some of the laid off promotions department to enter the data collected into a computer so that the outside body is kept at bay. After all, what's more important, generating a little bit of revenue and employing local staff, or remaining to be seen as PC?

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by cheeryoleary » 20 Apr 2007 15:06

Dirk. Have you thought about working for RFC? I see you defending RFC against the majority of negative comments made here.

You are allowed to disagree, or remain neutral from time to time.

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