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by winchester_royal » 09 Dec 2007 17:29

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Ian Royal No. Not unless we have a very good one off season and strengthern in the areas we need to, which arn't Harper.

Nor do I think we can break into the top six with anyone we can currently bring in running the show.

In 5 - 10 years we may be capable of being a top 6 club, if we build very carefully and are very very lucky.


there are certain players who can help break us into top 6 such as kitson and convey


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by Old Biscuitman » 09 Dec 2007 17:34

Sensible aim would be; consolidate in lower-mid during next 2 seasons. Upper-mid for 3 seasons after that. Top six and Europe by 2013. Achievable and not excessively ambitious.

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by Ian Royal » 09 Dec 2007 17:36

Old Biscuitman Sensible aim would be; consolidate in lower-mid during next 2 seasons. Upper-mid for 3 seasons after that. Top six and Europe by 2013. Achievable and not excessively ambitious.


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by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2007 17:52

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the critiscism of convey was never valid, it was always gonna take time for him to recover properly and in the games he played before yesterday he was playing ok in a poor team

harps is a different matter, he has been poor this season, and was anomynous yesterday before he scored, IMO gunnar has not been the problem in midfield, harper has


FWIW I agree with you.

I just despise these type of smart alec "where are all the people who said xxxx was shit now then, eh, eh?" after xxx has a good game.

Harper was excellent yesterday, but that doesn't mean the criticism of him after the Boro game is suddenly void.


would be better if people hadnt been so monumentally "knee jerk" and not go spouting so much after a couple of bad performances, by any player, to be fair
id despise people too if two days after i stated that coppell should oxf*rd off he masterminded a victory against european super club liverpool.
or that convey would never be good, and maybe never had been, two days before he regained some form.

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by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2007 17:55

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the critiscism of convey was never valid, it was always gonna take time for him to recover properly and in the games he played before yesterday he was playing ok in a poor team

harps is a different matter, he has been poor this season, and was anomynous yesterday before he scored, IMO gunnar has not been the problem in midfield, harper has


FWIW I agree with you.

I just despise these type of smart alec "where are all the people who said xxxx was shit now then, eh, eh?" after xxx has a good game.

Harper was excellent yesterday, but that doesn't mean the criticism of him after the Boro game is suddenly void.


i agree there, and also those who suddenlly think we no longer have any fear of relegation should cast their mind back to the boro game and just how poor we were..............we still need to strengthn in jan


i dont think 1 good win will stop any much needed investment in january

and it is clear in hindsight after our and boros victories this weekend that last weeks draw was not two poor teams struggling to spark
but two great teams cancelling each other out! :wink:


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by Huntley & Palmer » 09 Dec 2007 17:56

brendywendy would be better if people hadnt been so monumentally "knee jerk" and not go spouting so much after a couple of bad performances, by any player, to be fair
id despise people too if two days after i stated that coppell should oxf*rd off he masterminded a victory against european super club liverpool.
or that convey would never be good, and maybe never had been, two days before he regained some form.


So Harper and Gunnarsson put in decent performances against two very good central midfielders, how come they couldn't do it against Boro or Fulham or Arsenal then? I enjoyed seeing Kalifa back fit and making a short appearance at the end, would have him over and above Gunnar every game

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by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2007 18:01

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brendywendy would be better if people hadnt been so monumentally "knee jerk" and not go spouting so much after a couple of bad performances, by any player, to be fair
id despise people too if two days after i stated that coppell should oxf*rd off he masterminded a victory against european super club liverpool.
or that convey would never be good, and maybe never had been, two days before he regained some form.


So Harper and Gunnarsson put in decent performances against two very good central midfielders, how come they couldn't do it against Boro or Fulham or Arsenal then?


maybe they were low on confidence, nervous about our situation, hit a poor patch of form, could vbe myriad different reasons
thats my point, i just dont think we (myself included )should be so fickle
players dont become awful overnight, its too easy to be swept along by a good or bad result, and they went some way towards proving to us and themselves that we are good enough, and deserve to be here on merit
copps is right-treating victory and defeat the same etc etc, with a few of the kinks ironed out in january we could be top half again by the end of the year, who knows

RTG firmly in place after they slipped slightly last week

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by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2007 18:03

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brendywendy would be better if people hadnt been so monumentally "knee jerk" and not go spouting so much after a couple of bad performances, by any player, to be fair
id despise people too if two days after i stated that coppell should oxf*rd off he masterminded a victory against european super club liverpool.
or that convey would never be good, and maybe never had been, two days before he regained some form.


So Harper and Gunnarsson put in decent performances against two very good central midfielders, how come they couldn't do it against Boro or Fulham or Arsenal then? I enjoyed seeing Kalifa back fit and making a short appearance at the end, would have him over and above Gunnar every game


and i totally agree about cisse, and when hes fully fit i expect him to get a start
and probably keep the place

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by kevan » 09 Dec 2007 18:57

Management masterclass from SC showing confidence in the core team. It was a brave decisions, lets see the result translate to away form next week.


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by Gordons Cumming » 09 Dec 2007 19:06

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brendywendy would be better if people hadnt been so monumentally "knee jerk" and not go spouting so much after a couple of bad performances, by any player, to be fair
id despise people too if two days after i stated that coppell should oxf*rd off he masterminded a victory against european super club liverpool.
or that convey would never be good, and maybe never had been, two days before he regained some form.


So Harper and Gunnarsson put in decent performances against two very good central midfielders, how come they couldn't do it against Boro or Fulham or Arsenal then? I enjoyed seeing Kalifa back fit and making a short appearance at the end, would have him over and above Gunnar every game


Seen alot of Cisse then?

Must be difficult to judge yet isn't it?

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by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2007 19:08

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brendywendy would be better if people hadnt been so monumentally "knee jerk" and not go spouting so much after a couple of bad performances, by any player, to be fair
id despise people too if two days after i stated that coppell should oxf*rd off he masterminded a victory against european super club liverpool.
or that convey would never be good, and maybe never had been, two days before he regained some form.


So Harper and Gunnarsson put in decent performances against two very good central midfielders, how come they couldn't do it against Boro or Fulham or Arsenal then? I enjoyed seeing Kalifa back fit and making a short appearance at the end, would have him over and above Gunnar every game


seen him for the reserves
seen him in the 1st team
never looked out of place, will be brynns long term replacement in my eyes
just not quite yet

well done the brynnster

Seen alot of Cisse then?

Must be difficult to judge yet isn't it?

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by rg6royal » 09 Dec 2007 20:00

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brendywendy would be better if people hadnt been so monumentally "knee jerk" and not go spouting so much after a couple of bad performances, by any player, to be fair
id despise people too if two days after i stated that coppell should oxf*rd off he masterminded a victory against european super club liverpool.
or that convey would never be good, and maybe never had been, two days before he regained some form.


So Harper and Gunnarsson put in decent performances against two very good central midfielders, how come they couldn't do it against Boro or Fulham or Arsenal then? I enjoyed seeing Kalifa back fit and making a short appearance at the end, would have him over and above Gunnar every game


Seen alot of Cisse then?

Must be difficult to judge yet isn't it?


Still havn't made my mind up on cisse yet havn't seen enough of him.

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by starbug » 09 Dec 2007 21:39

winchester_royal there are certain players who can help break us into top 6 such as kitson and convey


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What do people see in Convey? I thought he was shocking again yesterday. He set harper free and had a good shot in the 1st half and that was it. Lost the ball every other time he touched it, and got a grand total of ZERO crosses in by my count, not that Hunt was any better. We need wingers who can cross the bloody ball - is that too demanding ?


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by Didcot Royal 2 » 09 Dec 2007 21:49

Obviously more than you! It was not vintage wing play but both Hunt and Convey were clearly two of our better players yesterday and match winning passes and good shots rank highly in my book (esp when discussing attacking players). Convey needs to improve but yesterday was good step forward for him and as he appears to be a bit of a confidence player, hopefully we will see better from him.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 09 Dec 2007 21:51

Didcot Royal 2 Obviously more than you! It was not vintage wing play but both Hunt and Convey were clearly two of our better players yesterday and match winning passes and good shots rank highly in my book (esp when discussing attacking players). Convey needs to improve but yesterday was good step forward for him and as he appears to be a bit of a confidence player, hopefully we will see better from him.
and such poor opposition too

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by starbug » 09 Dec 2007 21:51

Maybe I should have directed my question to Joe Lovejoy from the Times...

Reading: Hahnemann 6, Murty 6 (Cisse 90min), Sonko 5 (Bikey 81min), Ingimarsson 7, Shorey 6, Hunt 7, Harper 7, Gunnarsson 7,
:shock: Convey 8 :shock: (Lita 88min), Doyle 7, Kitson 7

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by Royalee » 09 Dec 2007 22:22

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winchester_royal there are certain players who can help break us into top 6 such as kitson and convey


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What do people see in Convey? I thought he was shocking again yesterday. He set harper free and had a good shot in the 1st half and that was it. Lost the ball every other time he touched it, and got a grand total of ZERO crosses in by my count, not that Hunt was any better. We need wingers who can cross the bloody ball - is that too demanding ?


What do people see in Convey?

Well for a start he's made three assists in his last three starts since his return. Our wingers may not have crossed the ball, but that's as stupid as moaning at a striker for not scoring any headed goals in a season where he finishes top scorer in the league - they were largely responsible for all three goals yesterday, particularly Convey.

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by starbug » 09 Dec 2007 22:56

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winchester_royal there are certain players who can help break us into top 6 such as kitson and convey


:shock:
What do people see in Convey? I thought he was shocking again yesterday. He set harper free and had a good shot in the 1st half and that was it. Lost the ball every other time he touched it, and got a grand total of ZERO crosses in by my count, not that Hunt was any better. We need wingers who can cross the bloody ball - is that too demanding ?


What do people see in Convey?

Well for a start he's made three assists in his last three starts since his return. Our wingers may not have crossed the ball, but that's as stupid as moaning at a striker for not scoring any headed goals in a season where he finishes top scorer in the league - they were largely responsible for all three goals yesterday, particularly Convey.


Actually I think you'll find its more analogous to Strikers not shooting, as for Convey's 3 assists, well I can only think of one other than yesterdays tap to Harper and that was the woeful pass to Kitson at Man City - thankfully Harper was on hand to smash it home but it clearly wasn't meant for him.

Was it not Little who had the divisions top assists the year before last creating 14 goals by..........CROSSING the ball ? It was a major strength for us thats now hurting us badly. We have two excellent headers of the ball in Kitson & Doyle but no damn crosses for them to feed off.

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by Royalee » 09 Dec 2007 23:09

You forgot Convey's first time flick which caught Carragher out for the penalty then?

Poor pass to Kitson at Man City? Of course Harper automatically assumed he'd misskick a pass to Kitson instead of fooling their defence and passing it back to him intentionally.

I suggest you take a good look at Convey's assist record before spouting more bollocks. It's no coincidence that our midfield's looked a lot more balanced with Convey in the team and that Shorey's actually been able to get forward and link up at the same time, along with us producing a lot more.

You know what? I'm getting bored with writing this, I'm talking to a blind person anyway. :roll:

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by seahawk10 » 10 Dec 2007 08:12

Convey greatest strength is creating scoring chances. Until January or a sudden return to health of Glen Little he is our best option as the second wing to Hunt.

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