What is an emergency loan?

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What is an emergency loan?

by arreff » 11 Feb 2009 15:50

Can anyone please explain in simple language what constitutes an emergency loan? I notice that Birmingham having lent Stoke a defender, (Stephen Kelly) at the beginning of this month now have loaned Traore (also a defender) from Portsmouth yesterday. I was mistakenly under the impression that the use of the term emergency meant that due to injuries a team was unable to field a full team but obviously I am wrong. If it means, as it looks like meaning that anything goes could we select a few choice players that are finding it difficult to get into Premier teams at the moment and let Steve Coppell know as soon as possible?

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Hoop Blah » 11 Feb 2009 15:53

It basically means anything under 3 months.

Pretty sure the 'emergency' bit is just there to get round FIFA or UEFA's transfer window rules.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Wycombe Royal » 11 Feb 2009 15:53

Emergency loan means nothing. They just use the word emergency as it keeps FIFA happy.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Tilehurst End » 11 Feb 2009 15:58

Fill your boots:

48.2 Emergency Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Emergency Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions:-
48.2.1 Emergency Loans are permitted both during the Registration Periods and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 48.2.2, also during a Closed Period.
48.2.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.1, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan:-
a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Registration Period;
b) in the first hall of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and
c) in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 49.
48.2.3 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 48.2.4, 48.2.5 and
49, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration 93 days. The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date. Emergency Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the Emergency Loan.
48.2.4 Emergency Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.5 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.6 Subject to Regulation 48.2.7, where the Emergency Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 48.2.3.
48.2.7 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 48.2.5).
49 Emergency Loan of Goalkeepers. If all the professional goalkeepers at a Club are either certified by an Independent medical practitioner as being unfit to play or are suspended, a Club may register (either before or after the deadlines laid down in Regulation 48.2.2), a further goalkeeper on a short term Emergency Loan in accordance with the following provisions>
49.1 The Executive shall allow a Club to sign such a goalkeeper for a period of 7 days (notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.3), inclusive of the starting date and finishing date.
49.2 Any such short term Emergency Loan shall be subject to The League, in appropriate circumstances, having received (Including by facsimile) the appropriate medical certificate(s)
and the Executive having confirmed that the circumstances conform to the provisions of this Regulation.
The period of any short term Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper may be renewed for 7 days at a time but further medical certification must be provided on each occasion.

49.4 Any short term Emergency Loan in respect of the same goalkeeper may not exceed 93 days during any Season.
49.5 The provisions of Regulation 47.3.2 shall not apply to the Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Thaumagurist* » 11 Feb 2009 16:00

This should be, as an emergency, moved to General Football.


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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by cmonurz » 11 Feb 2009 16:02

I thought Traore was on loan at Pompey from Arsenal?

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Zammo » 11 Feb 2009 16:03

Spac This should be, as an emergency, moved to General Football.


You should, as an emergency, be banned.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by 2.8 lita injection » 11 Feb 2009 16:06

A different Traore, this is the one with a ecl medal :shock:

My friend who is a Doncaster fan was telling me that Birmingham were trying to get one of their players on loan but basically try to sign him through the back door, brum were going to pay donny £1.5m fee for the loan and then pay a nominal fee at the end of the season to sign the player permanently. I dont like Birmingham.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Thaumagurist* » 11 Feb 2009 16:10

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Tony Le Mesmer » 11 Feb 2009 16:24

The entire loan system is farcical if you ask me.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Huntley & Palmer » 11 Feb 2009 16:43

cmonurz I thought Traore was on loan at Pompey from Arsenal?

As a staunch closet Scouse fan, you should know that this is European Cup Winner Djimi Traore. He also generated one of my favourite football songs

"Now Djimi unlike Gerrard,
Who practiced in his backyard,
Learned his skills on the disco dancing floor,

When Frog Eyes Saw young Djimi.
Doing his disco shimmy
He signed him as a future red***** star!

Don't blame it on Biscan,
don't blame it on Hamann,
don't blame it on Finnan......Blame it on Traore.
He just can't, he just can't, he just can't control his feet"

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by brendywendy » 11 Feb 2009 16:48

i thought the question was clearly being asked in twerms of-hopw the emergency loan system relates to RFC, and if we could use it, and whether we need to

move it back to the team

and why do you listen to spacey anyway?
he doesnt listen to you, thats for sure :wink:

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Ian Royal » 11 Feb 2009 17:01

Huntley & Palmer
cmonurz I thought Traore was on loan at Pompey from Arsenal?

As a staunch closet Scouse fan, you should know that this is European Cup Winner Djimi Traore. He also generated one of my favourite football songs

"Now Djimi unlike Gerrard,
Who practiced in his backyard,
Learned his skills on the disco dancing floor,

When Frog Eyes Saw young Djimi.
Doing his disco shimmy
He signed him as a future red***** star!

Don't blame it on Biscan,
don't blame it on Hamann,
don't blame it on Finnan......Blame it on Traore.
He just can't, he just can't, he just can't control his feet"


He is shockingly bad.


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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Franchise FC » 11 Feb 2009 18:35

£60 billion to bankers who then take a billion of it to pay themselves. The 'emergency' was that without the bail-out they might not have got their bonuses. :roll:

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 11 Feb 2009 19:08

Some clubs abuse the loan system, Birmingaham are one of those.

The FA should limit the number of loan players a club can take on in a season to a maximum of 3 or 4.

By doing this clubs will then have to play their sqaud players and youth academy.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by Franchise FC » 11 Feb 2009 19:16

The Real Sandhurst Royal Some clubs abuse the loan system, Birmingaham are one of those.

The FA should limit the number of loan players a club can take on in a season to a maximum of 3 or 4.

By doing this clubs will then have to play their sqaud players and youth academy.


Sorry, but you've missed the point - these are not cup games.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by poohs pure » 11 Feb 2009 19:50

arreff Can anyone please explain in simple language what constitutes an emergency loan? I notice that Birmingham having lent Stoke a defender, (Stephen Kelly) at the beginning of this month now have loaned Traore (also a defender) from Portsmouth yesterday. I was mistakenly under the impression that the use of the term emergency meant that due to injuries a team was unable to field a full team but obviously I am wrong. If it means, as it looks like meaning that anything goes could we select a few choice players that are finding it difficult to get into Premier teams at the moment and let Steve Coppell know as soon as possible?


quite simply:

a last minute night on the senior tizer is arranged for the day before pay day, EVERYONE is going. Arse, no dollar! Dave lends you a cheeky red one on the basis of "mate i'll have it back to you tomorrow after work, meet me in the dolphin".

dictionary definition of emergency loan.

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Re: What is an emergency loan?

by The Rouge » 11 Feb 2009 20:29

Tony Le Mesmer The entire loan system is farcical if you ask me.


Leave it aloan.

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