Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

[West Stand Man]

But then I would say that being an insider and singing from the club hymn sheet

Oh Jesus Christ, please tell me you're making this up and the club don't actually employ you in any serious capacity!?

They need to seriously look at their recruitment procedures if you've got a position which has any influence at all.

Irony rarely works in written form. You, however, need to read the thread to see the context of a comment before reacting.

[Ian Royal]

Funnily enough I don't recall the exact details of every post in a 40 page thread that's been going on for about 4 months min. Even if I had read the right post in the first place.

I didn't realise snowball was capable of irony. I must have missed the potential whilst being bored to tears by the statistics.

[West Stand Man]

Funnily enough I don't recall the exact details of every post in a 40 page thread that's been going on for about 4 months min. Even if I had read the right post in the first place.

I didn't realise snowball was capable of irony. I must have missed the potential whilst being bored to tears by the statistics.

You only needed to go back about a handful of posts to pick up on the meaning - surely not even you can find that too demanding?

[Ian Royal]

Funnily enough I don't recall the exact details of every post in a 40 page thread that's been going on for about 4 months min. Even if I had read the right post in the first place.

I didn't realise snowball was capable of irony. I must have missed the potential whilst being bored to tears by the statistics.

You only needed to go back about a handful of posts to pick up on the meaning - surely not even you can find that too demanding?

i find the prospect soul destroying in this case. i'll accetp my telling off without confirming what was said thanks.

[West Stand Man]

i find the prospect soul destroying in this case. i'll accetp my telling off without confirming what was said thanks.

I think I can empathise with that in this instance.

[SteveRoyal]

If we're going to keep Kebe for the Premiership he needs to work on his delivery over the summer.
He can get away without it in the Championship but in the Premiership you simply cannot.

[floyd__streete]

Anyone see Henry's last minute belter for Millwall tonight? Saved them a point, cutting in from the wing and pinging one in from full on 25 yards. Kebe has played, what, 30-odd games for us (it feels like 300-odd ) and I haven't seen him look remotely like doing something like this. I wonder whether Henry, given the undeserved run of games which Kebe has been given, would have achieved a lot more for us? I'll guess we'll never know now, eh Steve

[juanpablo]

Anyone see Henry's last minute belter for Millwall tonight? Saved them a point, cutting in from the wing and pinging one in from full on 25 yards. Kebe has played, what, 30-odd games for us (it feels like 300-odd ) and I haven't seen him look remotely like doing something like this. I wonder whether Henry, given the undeserved run of games which Kebe has been given, would have achieved a lot more for us? I'll guess we'll never know now, eh Steve

lol lets just give everybody a long run of games


do you know in all the times ive seen Henry play he has never showed a turn of pace like Kebe and if there is somebody decent rather than a league 1 clanger or old guy in the reserves he has been muscled out of the game...

"undeserved" lol indeed eh Steve, floyd for manager

[brendywendy]

Anyone see Henry's last minute belter for Millwall tonight? Saved them a point, cutting in from the wing and pinging one in from full on 25 yards. Kebe has played, what, 30-odd games for us (it feels like 300-odd ) and I haven't seen him look remotely like doing something like this. I wonder whether Henry, given the undeserved run of games which Kebe has been given, would have achieved a lot more for us? I'll guess we'll never know now, eh Steve

he had a chance,played a few games for a kid, and never really delivered in the league, certainly not getting close to scoring any 20 yard screamers.
good luck to the lad,and well played with the goal, i hope he gets into form there, and comes back to take his rightful place on the RW, but he really didnt look like doing so here so far.

[SCIAG]

Anyone see Henry's last minute belter for Millwall tonight? Saved them a point, cutting in from the wing and pinging one in from full on 25 yards. Kebe has played, what, 30-odd games for us (it feels like 300-odd ) and I haven't seen him look remotely like doing something like this. I wonder whether Henry, given the undeserved run of games which Kebe has been given, would have achieved a lot more for us? I'll guess we'll never know now, eh Steve

do you know in all the times ive seen Henry play he has never showed a turn of pace like Kebe

Erm... you not watching against Norwich? Or the other match where he played well, though I have forgotten the opponents? In both those games he had at least one great run in which he showed a turn of pace.

[CMRoyal]

Anyone see Henry's last minute belter for Millwall tonight? Saved them a point, cutting in from the wing and pinging one in from full on 25 yards. Kebe has played, what, 30-odd games for us (it feels like 300-odd ) and I haven't seen him look remotely like doing something like this. I wonder whether Henry, given the undeserved run of games which Kebe has been given, would have achieved a lot more for us? I'll guess we'll never know now, eh Steve

It would be good to see James have an extended run, however:-

1. He's not been outstanding in the league for us
2. The goal - albeit an absolutely cracking one - was scored against a tiring relegation-threatened League One defence
3. The overall impression is that he's playing OK, but Millwall fans seem to be reserving judgement

So, my instinct is to trust SC's decision.

[Snowball]

Obviously SSC knows nothing...

[handbags_harris]

2. The goal - albeit an absolutely cracking one - was scored against a tiring relegation-threatened League One defence

That doesn't make it any less impressive. That goal could easily have been scored in the 2nd minute against, say, Leicester. Defence is almost rendered irrelevant with goals like that because, quite simply, the strike is so good.

[CMRoyal]

2. The goal - albeit an absolutely cracking one - was scored against a tiring relegation-threatened League One defence

That doesn't make it any less impressive. That goal could easily have been scored in the 2nd minute against, say, Leicester. Defence is almost rendered irrelevant with goals like that because, quite simply, the strike is so good.

Hmmm, this could be a long argument, but clearly had the midfield been tighter he would never have had the space to shoot. Defence is never rendered irrelevant. But I'm only playing devil's advocate really - let's see him do it for us a few times in the run in, and I'll happily surrender all doubts about him.

[CMRoyal]

Just realised we're debating this on a Kebe thread, whereas James's goal came from some great left-wing play. S Hunt out, Henry cutting in from the left anybody?

[Terminal Boardom]

Anyone got any idea why Michael Antonio's loan at T&M was cut short? Is the Malian wing wizard injured?

[SteveRoyal]

Anyone got any idea why Michael Antonio's loan at T&M was cut short? Is the Malian wing wizard injured?

I'm sure we'd be told about this straight away.
We have Tabb as back-up for all of our midfield at the moment, so I don't see why we would recall Antonio for that reason alone.
He was impressing whilst at T&M, and with Henry out on loan, maybe SSC wanted to give him a few reserve games?

[Hoop Blah]

Anyone see Henry's last minute belter for Millwall tonight? Saved them a point, cutting in from the wing and pinging one in from full on 25 yards. Kebe has played, what, 30-odd games for us (it feels like 300-odd ) and I haven't seen him look remotely like doing something like this. I wonder whether Henry, given the undeserved run of games which Kebe has been given, would have achieved a lot more for us? I'll guess we'll never know now, eh Steve

It would be good to see James have an extended run, however:-

1. He's not been outstanding in the league for us
2. The goal - albeit an absolutely cracking one - was scored against a tiring relegation-threatened League One defence
3. The overall impression is that he's playing OK, but Millwall fans seem to be reserving judgement

So, my instinct is to trust SC's decision.

In the three games Henry played whilst Kebe was suspended I thought he did pretty well....better than Kebe's introduction to the side.

Against Blackpoo he did ok but looked like a player coming into a new side and not willing to impose himself enough on the game.

Coppell tried Matejovsky for the Norwich game and that backfired until he bought Henry on. He looked a lot more willing to try things and prove a point. He definately made a big contribution to us winning the game and showed plenty of pace too. Not many players are going to be as quick as Kebe, but seeing that the majority of times he doesn't do anything with the positions his pace gets him into I don't think it's that big a deal.

Henry then came back into the side for the Birmingham game. Personally I thought he was one of our better players in the first half but tired during the second and didnt get involved enough and was rightly sub'd. In that first half though he put in a number of excellent crosses and showed a touch, vision and passing ability far beyond Kebe's.

I'm surprised (well not overly as it's Mr Coppell we're talking about) and disapointed that the manager hasn't trusted Henry a bit more and given him more of a chance to challenge Kebe for that right wing spot.

Hopefully Millwall wil toughen him up a bit like they did with Karacan and he'll come back at the end of his loan ready to take his next chance should the manager have the balls to give him another go.

[brendywendy]

touch, vision and passing ability far beyond Kebe's.

look, id love to see james cement a place here as much as anyone
but thats rubbish

[Hoop Blah]

touch, vision and passing ability far beyond Kebe's.

look, id love to see james cement a place here as much as anyone
but thats rubbish

Not in my opinion it isn't.

Kebe has his own qualities, his pace and ability to get passed defenders with it and a few body swerves and the odd change of direction, but Henry's passing and vision are way beyond Kebe's from what I've seen of both players (I've watched a fair bit of the Reserves over the years too).

Kebe's general touch is pretty average at best too. I know he has show some excellent touches this season (before a barrage of 'didn't you see him control Federici's goal kick against whoever it was' posts) but consistently his touch see's him lose the ball. It also see's him beat his man on a occassions too, but it's a bit too hit and miss for my liking. I also include keeping the ball under control whilst trying to run, dribbling, cross or pass the ball as 'touch' by the way.