World cup venue

[Rex]

...and I have just noticed it requires 40,000 capacity! Discussion closed!

Worth the LOL's at fat boy Pete Winkleman who thinks MK will hold 40,000 by then. Idiot.

If they added the seating into the upper tiers would it reach capacity.?

[Dirk Gently]

...and I have just noticed it requires 40,000 capacity! Discussion closed!

Worth the LOL's at fat boy Pete Winkleman who thinks MK will hold 40,000 by then. Idiot.

If they added the seating into the upper tiers would it reach capacity.?

Irrelevant - it doesn't need to be able to hold 40000 at the time of the bid, just be capable of being expanded to that level - with the expansion being paid for by the FA if they win the bid.

In the same way that to win the Olympics we didn't need to have a 75k+ athletics stadium, just convince them that we could be the time the games start.

[Rex]

That was almost an expensive pup sold.

[(.)Boobies(.)]

If they added the seating into the upper tiers would it reach capacity.?

Pete Winkleman was recently quoted as saying their stadium will hold 30,000 in the next couple of years. I believe that is the seats going in to the top tier of Stadium:MK. I have to say, nice stadium it is too. But he really needs to reassess his ambitions. Premiership football could see that ground full (30,000), I'm sure. But never outside the Premiership. And talk of going to 40,000 is simply ridiculas at this stage!

[readingbedding]

I wouldn't have seen RFC as a realistic WC venue, even in 2018.

[Thaumagurist*]

And talk of going to 40,000 is simply ridiculas at this stage!

I agree it is ridiculous.

[(.)Boobies(.)]

And talk of going to 40,000 is simply ridiculas at this stage!

I agree it is ridiculous.

Indeed you are, thank you infidel.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Madejski doesn't have the transport infrastructure to be considered. Plus there is nothing around the ground apart from 3 fast food outlets and a few shops.

If you are going to fish for a response do it with a touch of intelligence.

...and perhaps take a trip out to world cup venues used in 2006 such as Berlin, Munich, Nuremburg, Gelsenkirchen, Hamburg, Frankfurt etc, and point out what they have in the vacinity. Not exactly "in the heart of the community", most of them.

For transport, shuttle buses were the main option if the wasn't a station nearby (and as slow as progress seems to be, surely Green Park station could be completed by then)

Still can't see it though, unless we can get back up and get established in the premier.

[Dirk Gently]

Madejski doesn't have the transport infrastructure to be considered. Plus there is nothing around the ground apart from 3 fast food outlets and a few shops.

If you are going to fish for a response do it with a touch of intelligence.

...and perhaps take a trip out to world cup venues used in 2006 such as Berlin, Munich, Nuremburg, Gelsenkirchen, Hamburg, Frankfurt etc, and point out what they have in the vacinity. Not exactly "in the heart of the community", most of them.

For transport, shuttle buses were the main option if the wasn't a station nearby (and as slow as progress seems to be, surely Green Park station could be completed by then)

Still can't see it though, unless we can get back up and get established in the premier.

Can't see it at all - we're too close to London. We'd be in competition with London stadia to be part of the London "group(s)" and they'd win that one - plus the Bid Committee have a mandate to develope stadia in the regions. They're particularly looking at the West/South West (Bristol???) and the far South (Pompey/Southampton?).

[Silver Fox]

Should that be Deep South?

[papereyes]

Can't see it at all - we're too close to London. We'd be in competition with London stadia to be part of the London "group(s)" and they'd win that one - plus the Bid Committee have a mandate to develope stadia in the regions. They're particularly looking at the West/South West (Bristol???) and the far South (Pompey/Southampton?).

I understood that they were looking at places like Bristol, Portsmouth and Plymouth.

All three recent World Cups (1998, 2002, 2006) built stadia in places without well-established teams so its not so much of an issue as some would make out.

Also Preston or somewhere northern [birthplace of football and all that]

[Dirk Gently]

So far 15 cities have applied to be host cities - they are :

1. Birmingham
2. Bristol
3. Derby
4. Hull
5. Leeds
6. Leicester
7. Liverpool
8. London
9. Manchester
10. Milton Keynes
11. Newcastle and Gateshead
12. Nottingham
13. Portsmouth
14. Sheffield
15. Sunderland

But there's still a few months to apply - the announcement of who's been selected as host cities isn't until December this year.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Also Preston or somewhere northern [birthplace of football and all that]

football was invented in the south.

[Mike Hunt]

Doesn't really matter guys....

WC 2018 will be in Australia.

Well - either that or 2022... not too fussed which one it is.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Doesn't really matter guys....

WC 2018 will be in Australia.

Australia's bid depends hugely on...

a) whether FIFA will accept games played on ovals (if not you are looking at building perhaps 10 stadiums from scratch)

b) whether FIFA will accept a bid from a nation with so few viable host cities

[Thaumagurist*]

It would seem to be too daft for FIFA to have the World Cup away from European soil for more than two consecutive World Cups. After all, most players play in Europe and that's where a lot of money is. I thought they had resolved after the German fiasco to rotate the World Cup between the European and South American continents as well as one other continent.

So we've had:

2002 - Asia (Japan/Korea)
2006 - Europe (Germany)
2010 - Africa (South Africa)
2014 - South America (Brazil)
2018 - Europe?
2022 - Some other continent?
2026 - South America?
2030 - Europe?

Or something like that?!?

[Ian Royal]

It would seem to be too daft for FIFA to have the World Cup away from European soil for more than two consecutive World Cups. After all, most players play in Europe and that's where a lot of money is. I thought they had resolved after the German fiasco to rotate the World Cup between the European and South American continents as well as one other continent.

So we've had:

1990 - Europe (Italy)
1994 - South America (USA)
1998 - Europe (France)
2002 - Asia (Japan/Korea)
2006 - Europe (Germany)
2010 - Africa (South Africa)
2014 - South America (Brazil)
2018 - Europe?
2022 - Antartica / Australasia
2026 - South America?
2030 - Europe?

Or something like that?!?

[Dirk Gently]

They used to rotate them around teh continents but decided a few years ago to scrap that. So now every WC is open to bidders from anywhere.

[Still Hate Futcher!]

Not many rugby clubs have grounds suitable, so I believe most of the venues will be football grounds. No rugby clubs have 20k + grounds and they'll need double that.

Apparently Leicester's Welford Road and Gloucester's ground are the only club grounds in the running.

You seem to know a bit too much about that egg chasing lark - not on the turn are you?

[Thaumagurist*]

They used to rotate them around teh continents but decided a few years ago to scrap that. So now every WC is open to bidders from anywhere.

Was there a reason why they decided to scrap the rotation?