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Swansea v Scunthorpe

by Barry the bird boggler » 26 Aug 2009 10:00

Swansea reduced to 6 men at one stage.....

From the BBC

Scunthorpe United controversially secured a Carling Cup victory over seven-man Swansea City in farcical circumstances at the Liberty Stadium.

Niall Canavan's goal in his first start gave Scunthorpe an early lead before Stephen Dobbie levelled with 12 minutes to go to send the tie into extra-time.

Garry Monk was sent off in the 85th minute before Dobbie went off injured.

Gary Hooper's late penalty gave the visitors the win before Gorka Pintado and Angel Rangel were also dismissed.

The chaotic finale was completely out of character for a second-round tie that barely set the pulses racing until the final quarter-of-an-hour.

Swansea had enjoyed greater territory and possession but the Welsh club could not find the killer touch in front of goal - and Dobbie feared it would not be his night when his 75th minute shot clipped the woodwork.

Dobbie's persistence, though, paid off as he dashed onto Marcos Painter's pass before smashing the ball past Scunthorpe keeper Joe Murphy in the 78th minute to continue his Carling Cup love affair with his third goal in two ties.

Paulo Sousa's side were clearly in the ascendancy but captain Monk's dismissal with five minutes remaining in normal time gave Scunthorpe faint hope and changed the tone of the whole game.

Referee James Linington, who started to take centre stage, consulted with his assistant before awarding Monk the fifth red card of his career for violent conduct on Scunthorpe sub Michael O'Connor.

Spanish striker Gorka Pintado, though, should have given the Swans a normal time lead three minutes into injury time but his effort was somehow superbly saved by Iron keeper Joe Murphy.

As if Swansea's task with ten men was not difficult enough, Sousa's men were reduced to nine-men when goal-scorer Dobbie was forced off with a rib injury - and Swans boss Paulo Sousa had used all of his substitutes.

Linington then awarded the visitors a harsh penalty with ten minutes remaining as he adjudged Alan Tate had handled the ball.

Scunthorpe striker Hooper fired his third goal of the season into the roof of the net from the penalty spot.

Swansea were reduced to eight men when petulant Pintado was sent off for a second bookable offence for showing dissent to referee Linington.

Then his fellow countryman Angel Rangel followed just a minute later when the Spanish full-back was dismissed for seemingly elbowing Matthew Sparrow.

Tempers erupted in the dug-outs as Swansea and Scunthorpe's benches clashed as debutant Besian Idrizaj was fouled and was forced off.

Football League rules state each side must have at least seven players on the pitch for a game to be played so with Swansea down to six men, Isle of Wight official Linington was considering abandoning this footballing farce with two minutes remaining.

The farce descended to new depths when Swans boss Paulo Sousa sent the injured Idrizaj back on to the pitch despite his inability to take part just so this crazy cup tie could have a conclusion.

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by leww_rfc » 28 Aug 2009 21:40

Ouch... :?

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by wolsey » 28 Aug 2009 22:19

It will be interesting how the FAW manage to get out of punishing them for this one.

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by leww_rfc » 28 Aug 2009 22:47

wolsey It will be interesting how the FAW manage to get out of punishing them for this one.


what do you mean? they did get charged from the scuffle with us.

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by weybridgewanderer » 29 Aug 2009 01:14

leww_rfc
wolsey It will be interesting how the FAW manage to get out of punishing them for this one.


what do you mean? they did get charged from the scuffle with us.


no

its the same with cardiff, the eglish fa can't touch them so english teams get punished but neither cardiff nor swansea are


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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by leww_rfc » 29 Aug 2009 01:36

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wolsey It will be interesting how the FAW manage to get out of punishing them for this one.


what do you mean? they did get charged from the scuffle with us.


no

its the same with cardiff, the eglish fa can't touch them so english teams get punished but neither cardiff nor swansea are


yeah i know but the FAW did charge them.

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by Platypuss » 29 Aug 2009 09:49

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wolsey It will be interesting how the FAW manage to get out of punishing them for this one.


what do you mean? they did get charged from the scuffle with us.


no


Yes:

FAW Charge Swansea City

24 August 2009

The Football Association of Wales has charged Swansea City FC with the Disciplinary Offence as set out under FAW Rule 24.2.12

http://www.faw.org.uk/news

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by leww_rfc » 29 Aug 2009 11:06

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Yes:

FAW Charge Swansea City

24 August 2009

The Football Association of Wales has charged Swansea City FC with the Disciplinary Offence as set out under FAW Rule 24.2.12

http://www.faw.org.uk/news


thankyou, exactly my point :mrgreen:

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by wolsey » 29 Aug 2009 15:55

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Yes:

FAW Charge Swansea City

24 August 2009

The Football Association of Wales has charged Swansea City FC with the Disciplinary Offence as set out under FAW Rule 24.2.12

http://www.faw.org.uk/news


thankyou, exactly my point :mrgreen:


So have they taken any action for the latest goings on?


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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by leww_rfc » 29 Aug 2009 16:09

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Yes:

FAW Charge Swansea City

24 August 2009

The Football Association of Wales has charged Swansea City FC with the Disciplinary Offence as set out under FAW Rule 24.2.12

http://www.faw.org.uk/news


thankyou, exactly my point :mrgreen:


So have they taken any action for the latest goings on?


Swansea are waiting to hear from the FAW, no doubt they will have a punishment along with the fact 3 of their players already have automatic suspensions.

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by Terminal Boardom » 29 Aug 2009 20:58

The sooner that Cardiff and Swansea are kicked out of the ENGLISH Football League the better. The FAW is a complete and utter joke and it is a disgrace that they should officiate over disciplinary matters in ENGLISH competitions. I wonder what would happen if Cardiff or Swansea gained promotion to the Premier League. Who would have jurisdiction as the Premier League is a Football Association competition?

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by Platypuss » 29 Aug 2009 21:22

Terminal Boardom I wonder what would happen if Cardiff or Swansea gained promotion to the Premier League. Who would have jurisdiction as the Premier League is a Football Association competition?


Why do you think anything would be different from the current position?

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by leww_rfc » 29 Aug 2009 23:16

Terminal Boardom The sooner that Cardiff and Swansea are kicked out of the ENGLISH Football League the better. The FAW is a complete and utter joke and it is a disgrace that they should officiate over disciplinary matters in ENGLISH competitions. I wonder what would happen if Cardiff or Swansea gained promotion to the Premier League. Who would have jurisdiction as the Premier League is a Football Association competition?


what are you on about? kick them out? thats one of the most absurd things i've heard today, they get charged for the same things that all the clubs in England do, as i live in Wales i hear about them being charged on the news but in England on the news they don't feature what the FAW does. Also i don't understand why your pulling your hair out over it, charges in football don't mean much these days unless the offence is big enough to lead to point reductions or something else. All that will probably happen to Swansea is that they will probably get a fine, which is the same for any club over the globe for these kind of offences. RANT OVER!!


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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by wolsey » 01 Sep 2009 17:31

Any news from the Welsh FA on this matter? Or did they only charge Swansea for the fracas with Reading because the FA charged us?

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by Thaumagurist* » 01 Sep 2009 17:38

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Terminal Boardom The sooner that Cardiff and Swansea are kicked out of the ENGLISH Football League the better. The FAW is a complete and utter joke and it is a disgrace that they should officiate over disciplinary matters in ENGLISH competitions. I wonder what would happen if Cardiff or Swansea gained promotion to the Premier League. Who would have jurisdiction as the Premier League is a Football Association competition?


what are you on about? kick them out? thats one of the most absurd things i've heard today, they get charged for the same things that all the clubs in England do, as i live in Wales i hear about them being charged on the news but in England on the news they don't feature what the FAW does. Also i don't understand why your pulling your hair out over it, charges in football don't mean much these days unless the offence is big enough to lead to point reductions or something else. All that will probably happen to Swansea is that they will probably get a fine, which is the same for any club over the globe for these kind of offences. RANT OVER!!

The fact of the matter is that they happen to play in an English league and therefore they should come under the Jurisdiction of the English FA.

Reading play in Berkshire and there is a Berkshire FA. Should the Berkshire FA have jurisdiction over Reading and not the English FA?

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by leww_rfc » 01 Sep 2009 17:44

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Terminal Boardom The sooner that Cardiff and Swansea are kicked out of the ENGLISH Football League the better. The FAW is a complete and utter joke and it is a disgrace that they should officiate over disciplinary matters in ENGLISH competitions. I wonder what would happen if Cardiff or Swansea gained promotion to the Premier League. Who would have jurisdiction as the Premier League is a Football Association competition?


what are you on about? kick them out? thats one of the most absurd things i've heard today, they get charged for the same things that all the clubs in England do, as i live in Wales i hear about them being charged on the news but in England on the news they don't feature what the FAW does. Also i don't understand why your pulling your hair out over it, charges in football don't mean much these days unless the offence is big enough to lead to point reductions or something else. All that will probably happen to Swansea is that they will probably get a fine, which is the same for any club over the globe for these kind of offences. RANT OVER!!

The fact of the matter is that they happen to play in an English league and therefore they should come under the Jurisdiction of the English FA.

Reading play in Berkshire and there is a Berkshire FA. Should the Berkshire FA have jurisdiction over Reading and not the English FA?


Berkshire FA is part of the FA isn't it? but yes i agree that Welsh teams in the football league should come under jurisdiction of the FA

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by PEARCEY » 01 Sep 2009 18:22

Just to make clear the Welsh clubs themselves are perfectly happy to come under the jurisdiction of the English F.A. The problem is more to do with the F.A.W. as far as I am aware.

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Re: Swansea v Scunthorpe

by swansea jack » 03 Sep 2009 04:22

PEARCEY Just to make clear the Welsh clubs themselves are perfectly happy to come under the jurisdiction of the English F.A. The problem is more to do with the F.A.W. as far as I am aware.


One of the main issues with switching is that there would then be pressure to remove the vote that the FAW have on the International Football Association Board which would effectively give more power to FIFA and may create a knock-on effect of removing the other home nations votes... I know the FAW are a bunch of eejits (cousin worked there) but I rather not have Blatter running the show (although women playing in bikinis has some appeal :wink:).

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