England Ladies

[prostak]

In fairness - when was the last time England's men reached a comparable stage of the European Ch... oh.
I'd like to see the England women play a men's team of around League One standard. I'd wager the women would be 2 up by the time the opposition had stopped telling themselves 'girls can't play football'.

Decent game, Carney good as usual. Problem for England was Germany's women are more or less semi-pro, so to get two goals against them is at least some consolation. Still need a sport-wide 'keeper improvement programme, mind you.

[Royalee]

Women's football is diabolical - every time I try and give it a chance I get annoyed at how many mistakes there are per minute...and that's before I get to the goalkeeping.

[Archie's penalty]

Was listening to the 5live show about it.

They think (and I tend to agree) that the attacking of the women is close to as good as the men. The defending and goalkeeping simply isn't.

They were saying we should stop comparing it to the men's game as it's a different game. We have basically stopped doing that with cricket, surely some day we can do that with the footie (although I admit it's difficult not to compare the two sports).

[TBM]

In fairness - when was the last time England's men reached a comparable stage of the European Ch... oh.

June/July - England U21's

[Alivey]

I don't think I could stomach another listen of BBC2 absolutely pathetic coverage of England ladies. The amount pre game hype that was spoken, there is not enough hens in the world to lay enough eggs to cover their faces. Hearing the absolutely cringeworthy comments on how these ladies show more passion and honour to play for their country/teams than their male counterparts is laughable. Obviously when you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel and you can't praise a downright pathetic 6-2 defeat, that is the only place to look at. Speaking of which, when was the last time a 6-2 defeat was called humbled?? I think the great alan pardew would have said they were raped. Women's game is dire and it is never going to get better until women are treated equal. For some reason the PC do gooders like to believe the separate but equal is the way to go, our fragile and quite dainty victorian ladies cannot compete with men, load of nonsense. The skill displayed in some of these women could easily fit into some Championship teams, obviously the goalkeeping leaves alot to desired, but who knows, will it ever happen?? Probably not.. the sexists in Fifa would never allow and neither will the PC do gooders at the end of the game the women's game will continue to suffer.

[Royal Rother]

Oh look, an early morning rant.

Sorry pal, you are as daft at 5 o'clock in the morning as you are during the rest of the day. Mad ramblings of a warped mind.

[papereyes]

Was listening to the 5live show about it.

They think (and I tend to agree) that the attacking of the women is close to as good as the men. The defending and goalkeeping simply isn't.

They were saying we should stop comparing it to the men's game as it's a different game. We have basically stopped doing that with cricket, surely some day we can do that with the footie (although I admit it's difficult not to compare the two sports).

That's what one of the lasses at Uni was saying. Technically, there is little stopping them being equals to men but it would be naive and stupid to suggest they could match them athletically and physically. The goalkeeping is an interesting point - it boils down to coaching. There just simply aren't enough people interested in doing it. Oxford Ladies used to get one of the OUAFC keepers to do a bit with them but ... yeah ...

[Maguire]

Pretty sure I could get a game in goal for England Ladies. They've got a bit better since the last time though, that tournament was LOLZ in the keeping stakes.

[Row Z Royal]

And lolz @ the comment from Powell on the radio this morning.

Along the lines of "Yeah, we conceded 6, but I don't think we were really outplayed".

[cmonurz]

And lolz @ the comment from Powell on the radio this morning.

Along the lines of "Yeah, we conceded 6, but I don't think we were really outplayed".

It was good enough for Reading fans when we shipped 7 at Pompey.

[Row Z Royal]

And lolz @ the comment from Powell on the radio this morning.

Along the lines of "Yeah, we conceded 6, but I don't think we were really outplayed".

It was good enough for Reading fans when we shipped 7 at Pompey.

At least we scored 4!

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

It's pathetic the coverage this stuff gets.

The 5Live program last night was painful, even pulled the old there would be no wars if women were in charge line out.

How does female football make it on TV? Show some Blue Square Premiership, give coverage to proper footballers.

Heard the one about the attacking play being just as good. LOL. No pace, no power, no vision, no ability to run off the ball. It's not just the physical aspect that they lack, there wasn't a single footballing brain on show last night. You can tell by the way they play. They are well drilled, but they are not playing with freedom, they are not good enough to do so.

It's like watching U12 boys football....

[Archie's penalty]

Maybe they could make the goals smaller?

[Whore Jackie]

Maybe they could make the goals smaller?

Smaller shirts would be a start.

[papereyes]

I guess one of the problems is that the FA essentially banned women's football for 50 years.

I shall assume that they knew best

[prostak]

In fairness - when was the last time England's men reached a comparable stage of the European Ch... oh.

June/July - England U21's

Yeh, your youth squads. How about a comparable stage?

Archie's penalty has it right saying we shouldn't bother trying to make comparisons with the men's game, whereas Smoking Kills Dancing Doe is full of nonsense. No vision? No running off the ball? I take it you were only watching the England team, yes?

[PEARCEY]

It's pathetic the coverage this stuff gets.

The 5Live program last night was painful, even pulled the old there would be no wars if women were in charge line out.

How does female football make it on TV? Show some Blue Square Premiership, give coverage to proper footballers.

Heard the one about the attacking play being just as good. LOL. No pace, no power, no vision, no ability to run off the ball. It's not just the physical aspect that they lack, there wasn't a single footballing brain on show last night. You can tell by the way they play. They are well drilled, but they are not playing with freedom, they are not good enough to do so.

It's like watching U12 boys football....

Rubbish. Some of the build-up play particularly from the Germans was impressive. Good passing, good technique and no diving around, spitting all over the place etc etc.
I enjoyed the game and whilst the defending and goalkeeping was naive the football played was pleasing on the eye.

[Starfish]

In fairness - when was the last time England's men reached a comparable stage of the European Ch... oh.
I'd like to see the England women play a men's team of around League One standard. I'd wager the women would be 2 up by the time the opposition had stopped telling themselves 'girls can't play football'.

Decent game, Carney good as usual. Problem for England was Germany's women are more or less semi-pro, so to get two goals against them is at least some consolation. Still need a sport-wide 'keeper improvement programme, mind you.

You have got to be joking. I have watched a couple of Germany's games and it is a very rare feat that there is anything resembling a 'move' involving more than three players in women's football. When I was playing U-16s football (in Dublin's 'D' league), we played the Irish women's team and beat them 3-0. They kicked us every opportunity they got and we had to stick to 'playing football' - something we were not very good at. I accept that the women's game has come on a hell of a lot since then - maybe they'd hold their own against teams in U-16s 'B' league now, but any well organised men's team would beat them 9 times out of 10. The tenth game might be a draw after the referee had sent off a couple of blokes to even things up a bit.

If they thought, realistically, that they would have any chance against a League One side, they'd be playing them in friendlies, believe me.

[prostak]

Starfish,
So- your experience of one game which took place an unspecified amount of time ago, taking place in a minor country (soccer-wise) without even a fully professional league, is the sum total of your argument?

[Starfish]

Starfish,
So- your experience of one game which took place an unspecified amount of time ago, taking place in a minor country (soccer-wise) without even a fully professional league, is the sum total of your argument?

The Irish women's team were (and are) still involved in international tournaments. They are not very successful, but there you go. When I was younger, they 'honed their skills' by playing very bad U-16s teams, and (in the game I was involved in) lost badly. They played against male opposition for practice and lost to bad U-16 s teams. Are you saying they should have played against League of Ireland teams instead? And tell me, what does the standard of the League of Ireland have to do with the women's team? I can answer that for you - nothing at all.

The total sum of my argument is 'real' experience. I know how the Irish women prepared for games 20 years ago. They were prepared to play male opposition. I have a real example. You argument, on the contrary is - 'I'd wager ...' The game has developed a lot over the past 20 years (I don't doubt that) but that it is has improved so much is you living in a dream world.

If the women were capable of beating professional men's teams (as you claim without any argument to back up your claim), they would be trying to prove it - for them to beat a professional men's team would be a great advertisement for the women's game and would be a huge step in their being taken seriously. Why doesn't it happen?