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Re: Lee Hughes

by LoyalRoyalFan » 14 Sep 2009 15:27

All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by Vision » 14 Sep 2009 15:31

LoyalRoyalFan All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.


Which Lee Hughes has and Luke McCormack is.

You're advocating not treating them like everyone else but stopping them from performing the trade for which they are trained once they have served their sentence and (in the eyes of the law) paid their debt to society.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by LoyalRoyalFan » 14 Sep 2009 15:34

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LoyalRoyalFan All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.


Which Lee Hughes has and Luke McCormack is.

You're advocating not treating them like everyone else but stopping them from performing the trade for which they are trained once they have served their sentence and (in the eyes of the law) paid their debt to society.


Yes, but as i said, children look up to Footballers as role-models. When Lee Hughes went into prison, in my view, his football career should be over. It's also showing us how our prison system is failing, if someone like Lee Hughes only serves a short sentence for causing death by drink-driving, but is still able to 'show-off' to children, week in and week out.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by TBM » 14 Sep 2009 15:35

LoyalRoyalFan All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.


They are punished! :?

I really dont understand what your point is!!!? - he served his time, has been released and is now a footballer again. Its a job, his profession. Why should he give that up?

I guess you reach boiling point every time you see Tony Adams on Match of the Day2?
Do you almost have a hear attack when Joey Barton is picked to play for Newcastle?
What does Lee Bowyer do to your blood pressure?!

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Re: Lee Hughes

by papereyes » 14 Sep 2009 15:37

LoyalRoyalFan In my view, he should be in prison. Different people have different views. It's the same as Luke McCormick. These footballers don't have the right to play football again, because they blew there chance when they commited a terrible crime.


That doesn't make sense.

He's been punished.
He has, in the eyes of the sullen husk that we call society, been rehabilitated.

What the fuck is he meant to do? Stay in a cold dark room every day until his 'mate' Tiny comes in and rodgers him to within an inch of his life?


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Re: Lee Hughes

by TBM » 14 Sep 2009 15:37

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LoyalRoyalFan All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.


Which Lee Hughes has and Luke McCormack is.

You're advocating not treating them like everyone else but stopping them from performing the trade for which they are trained once they have served their sentence and (in the eyes of the law) paid their debt to society.


Yes, but as i said, children look up to Footballers as role-models. When Lee Hughes went into prison, in my view, his football career should be over. It's also showing us how our prison system is failing, if someone like Lee Hughes only serves a short sentence for causing death by drink-driving, but is still able to 'show-off' to children, week in and week out.


So you'd rather he came out, become a drunk and live on the streets so parents can walk past him, with their children, and say "see thats what happens if you drink drive when you're a footballer" - just to prove a point?

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Re: Lee Hughes

by TFF » 14 Sep 2009 15:38

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 955178.stm

He got out two years ago. Signed for Oldham.

He's a horrible cnut but I'm afraid that he's got every right to pursue his career on release.

The moral stock of his employers has dipped a little though imho. I'd hate for us to sign someone in his position.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by papereyes » 14 Sep 2009 15:39

The moral stock of his employers has dipped a little though imho. I'd hate for us to sign someone in his position.


Exactly.

Its up to the club to decide whether or not to sign him. I'd like to imagine we wouldn't.

I understand that *imagine* is the strong word here.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by TBM » 14 Sep 2009 15:40

That Friday Feeling I'd hate for us to sign someone in his position.


I'd love us to sign some more strikers......


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Re: Lee Hughes

by LoyalRoyalFan » 14 Sep 2009 15:40

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LoyalRoyalFan All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.


They are punished! :?

I really dont understand what your point is!!!? - he served his time, has been released and is now a footballer again. Its a job, his profession. Why should he give that up?

I guess you reach boiling point every time you see Tony Adams on Match of the Day2?
Do you almost have a hear attack when Joey Barton is picked to play for Newcastle?
What does Lee Bowyer do to your blood pressure?!


My point is simple. Lee Hughes should not be able to act like a twat. I think it is terrible to see that idiot, making a fool of himself, whilst his victim's familles are still missing there loved one's.

I don't like Joey Barton or Lee Bowyer for what they did either. It's the same point. How can they commit crimes, yet still be able to be a role model for thousands of children?

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Re: Lee Hughes

by papereyes » 14 Sep 2009 15:41

... imagine if we banned "acting like a twat" from the internet ... :|

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Re: Lee Hughes

by TBM » 14 Sep 2009 15:42

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LoyalRoyalFan All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.


They are punished! :?

I really dont understand what your point is!!!? - he served his time, has been released and is now a footballer again. Its a job, his profession. Why should he give that up?

I guess you reach boiling point every time you see Tony Adams on Match of the Day2?
Do you almost have a hear attack when Joey Barton is picked to play for Newcastle?
What does Lee Bowyer do to your blood pressure?!


My point is simple. Lee Hughes should not be able to act like a twat. I think it is terrible to see that idiot, making a fool of himself, whilst his victim's familles are still missing there loved one's.

I don't like Joey Barton or Lee Bowyer for what they did either. It's the same point. How can they commit crimes, yet still be able to be a role model for thousands of children?


So anyone that commits a crime is also not allowed to have any kids?

After all, most kids see their Dad as their role model.

You're making yourself look stupid - just give up :lol:

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Re: Lee Hughes

by LoyalRoyalFan » 14 Sep 2009 15:45

It's a debate. To be honest, we are all entitled to our views. For me, if you do the crime, you have to deal with the time.
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Re: Lee Hughes

by Vision » 14 Sep 2009 15:46

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LoyalRoyalFan All footballers who commit crimes should be punished, just like everyone else.


Which Lee Hughes has and Luke McCormack is.

You're advocating not treating them like everyone else but stopping them from performing the trade for which they are trained once they have served their sentence and (in the eyes of the law) paid their debt to society.


Yes, but as i said, children look up to Footballers as role-models. When Lee Hughes went into prison, in my view, his football career should be over. It's also showing us how our prison system is failing, if someone like Lee Hughes only serves a short sentence for causing death by drink-driving, but is still able to 'show-off' to children, week in and week out.


Ok so where do you draw the line. What professions is ok to kill someone and then take up again once you've left prison.

Of course there's an argument to be made that his sentence was too light but thats the judicial system rather than the prison system. In fact if an inmate serves his time and then re-integrates back into society and doesn't re-offend than thats actually showing that the Prison system works rather than doesn't surely.

I realise its an emotive subject and from a moral point of view you've probably got a point but really the law can't discriminate between how it treats people depending on profession. Perhaps you should take it up with Oldham Athletic and Notts County who have employed him after his release from prison.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by LoyalRoyalFan » 14 Sep 2009 15:49

Most Oldham fans were against the move to sign Lee Hughes.

Your right Vision. But in my view, Lee Hughes should of served his full sentence.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by Vision » 14 Sep 2009 15:49

LoyalRoyalFan It's a debate. To be honest, we are all entitled to our views. For me, if you do the crime, you have to deal with the time.


What job do you do?

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Re: Lee Hughes

by Jackson Corner » 14 Sep 2009 15:51

How would you feel if it was a member of your family he killed? When you see him dancing on a fooball pitch with a big grin on his face?

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Re: Lee Hughes

by Stranded » 14 Sep 2009 15:51

LoyalRoyalFan My point is simple. Lee Hughes should not be able to act like a twat. I think it is terrible to see that idiot, making a fool of himself, whilst his victim's familles are still missing there loved one's.

I don't like Joey Barton or Lee Bowyer for what they did either. It's the same point. How can they commit crimes, yet still be able to be a role model for thousands of children?


Surely then it's up to the parents of these children to make them aware of what he did and why they shouldn't look up to him.

Football isn't public office, you simply cannot say that if you commit a crime you can't play.

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Re: Lee Hughes

by TheMaraudingDog » 14 Sep 2009 15:52

LoyalRoyalFan It's a debate. To be honest, we are all entitled to our views. For me, if you do the crime, you have to deal with the time.



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Re: Lee Hughes

by Stranded » 14 Sep 2009 15:52

Jackson Corner How would you feel if it was a member of your family he killed? When you see him dancing on a fooball pitch with a big grin on his face?


Probably the same way I would feel if I saw him with a grin on his face working in a bank I would expect.

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