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Royal Holloway

by Dorset-Knob » 16 Sep 2009 22:00

People use to laugh at him, but Ian, the journeyman manager, who is patently not the 'Special One' seems to be managing quite nicely again! Looks like the Tangerines might have the last laugh! :wink:

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Dorset-Knob » 26 Sep 2009 17:24

I swear I can hear him laughing all the way from Lancashire! Good solid experience or egotistical experimentation. What would you choose today?

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 26 Sep 2009 17:28

WTF are you talking about???? Was he in the frame for the RFc job, I don't think so.

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Dorset-Knob » 26 Sep 2009 17:31

Harpers So Solid Crew WTF are you talking about???? Was he in the frame for the RFc job, I don't think so.


Oh yeah fecking good job we got BR and not IH then isn't it?

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Re: Royal Holloway

by PEARCEY » 26 Sep 2009 17:33

Can't say Holloway is my cup of tea but he is doing a decent job at the moment and is used to working on a shoe-string budget which would be a pre-requisite for anyone managing Reading FC


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Re: Royal Holloway

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 26 Sep 2009 17:38

So you judge Holloway on nine games as a success, and BR as a failure.

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by ankeny » 26 Sep 2009 17:40

Harpers So Solid Crew So you judge Holloway on nine games as a success, and BR as a failure.

Yes,If Hooloway never had a comedy accent he woul be classed as a good manager,get this idiot out now

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Re: Royal Holloway

by ankeny » 26 Sep 2009 17:42

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Harpers So Solid Crew So you judge Holloway on nine games as a success, and BR as a failure.

Yes,If Hooloway never had a comedy accent he woul be classed as a good manager,get this idiot out now

And I did mean Holloway :oops:

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Franchise FC » 26 Sep 2009 17:44

I can tell you, direct from the man himself, that he (Ian Holoway) wanted the job, but even at that stage knew that Reading wanted Rodgers. That was in MAY !!


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Re: Royal Holloway

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 26 Sep 2009 17:45

That would be the same holloway that took Leicester to the third tier,

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Dorset-Knob » 26 Sep 2009 19:41

Harpers So Solid Crew That would be the same holloway that took Leicester to the third tier,


Yeah quite true, but compared to BR and IH today, taking their respective teams in directly opposite directions, I can see why we got the best part of the deal!

Actually I can't, perhaps you could explain?

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by LoyalRoyalFan » 26 Sep 2009 19:50

Never had a problem with Ian Holloway. Always had respect for the guy.

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Dorset-Knob » 27 Sep 2009 11:47

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Harpers So Solid Crew That would be the same holloway that took Leicester to the third tier,


Yeah quite true, but compared to BR and IH today, taking their respective teams in directly opposite directions, I can see why we got the best part of the deal!

Actually I can't, perhaps you could explain?


That would be a resounding "No" then! thought so, the table never lies!


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Re: Royal Holloway

by handbags_harris » 27 Sep 2009 15:44

That would be the same Holloway who took QPR from the 3rd to the 2nd tier, who worked extremely well when at Bristol Rovers, a side who habitually sold their most talented strikers. This would be the same Ian Holloway who looked like he may be building something at Plymouth with no money before upping sticks for Leicester. He may have been in charge for their relegation, but defensively they were pretty damn good, they had the 2nd best defensive record for that division. And wonder of wonders, he's doing a good job at Blackpool. He's a decent manager for Championship level. He'll get a team up from this division one day.

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Dorset-Knob » 27 Sep 2009 16:10

What HH says!

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Alan Partridge » 28 Sep 2009 10:01

handbags_harris That would be the same Holloway who took QPR from the 3rd to the 2nd tier, who worked extremely well when at Bristol Rovers, a side who habitually sold their most talented strikers. This would be the same Ian Holloway who looked like he may be building something at Plymouth with no money before upping sticks for Leicester. He may have been in charge for their relegation, but defensively they were pretty damn good, they had the 2nd best defensive record for that division. And wonder of wonders, he's doing a good job at Blackpool. He's a decent manager for Championship level. He'll get a team up from this division one day.


Spot on HH. He'd have got Bristol Rovers promoted had they not sold off an absolute load of attacking talent to balance the books. QPR were in utter disarray when he was there and still got them promoted and kept them up. Plymouth have been utterly dire since he's left, and now of course Blackpool are flying in a division they shouldn't really be in with the lack of resourses they have.

The only club where he wasn't good was Leicester who were already well on the slide when he took over.

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Vision » 28 Sep 2009 12:00

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handbags_harris That would be the same Holloway who took QPR from the 3rd to the 2nd tier, who worked extremely well when at Bristol Rovers, a side who habitually sold their most talented strikers. This would be the same Ian Holloway who looked like he may be building something at Plymouth with no money before upping sticks for Leicester. He may have been in charge for their relegation, but defensively they were pretty damn good, they had the 2nd best defensive record for that division. And wonder of wonders, he's doing a good job at Blackpool. He's a decent manager for Championship level. He'll get a team up from this division one day.


Spot on HH. He'd have got Bristol Rovers promoted had they not sold off an absolute load of attacking talent to balance the books. QPR were in utter disarray when he was there and still got them promoted and kept them up. Plymouth have been utterly dire since he's left, and now of course Blackpool are flying in a division they shouldn't really be in with the lack of resourses they have.

The only club where he wasn't good was Leicester who were already well on the slide when he took over.


I think decent at this level is about right. He's never finished higher than 11th at this level. Rodgers got Watford to 13th last season despite inheriting arguably a bigger mess there than Holloway has peviously.

If the idea behind the OP is to make the comparison with Rodgers' then the Leicester comparison is probably a good one in the sense that much like Rodgers here, he pretty much went in, completely gutted the playing staff and then couldn't build a cohesive team in enough time to save them.

FTR his finishes at this level are QPR 23rd, 11th & 21st, Plymouth 11th and Leicester 22nd.

He's made a good start at Blackpool but I'm not convinced that in any way means he'd have been the man to get us off to a similiar start (as the original post implies).

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 28 Sep 2009 13:41

Holloway's no tactical genius. He just keeps it simple and knows what works at this level. I don't think he could build a team that could get out of this division though, except maybe scraping into the play-offs, and would probably see any promoted team torn to shreds.

Rodger's tactics, on the other hand, would probably work better in the premier with different players, but it's hard to see them working in this division with players who've never played 4-3-3 in their lives.

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Dorset-Knob » 28 Sep 2009 20:01

Rev Algenon Stickleback H Holloway's no tactical genius. He just keeps it simple and knows what works at this level. I don't think he could build a team that could get out of this division though, except maybe scraping into the play-offs, and would probably see any promoted team torn to shreds.

Rodger's tactics, on the other hand, would probably work better in the premier with different players, but it's hard to see them working in this division with players who've never played 4-3-3 in their lives.


Not saying you're wrong, but the chances of BR proving you right with promotion to the premier league, seem to me at least, pretty remote!

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Re: Royal Holloway

by Wax Jacket » 29 Sep 2009 11:47

Rev Algenon Stickleback H Holloway's no tactical genius. He just keeps it simple and knows what works at this level. I don't think he could build a team that could get out of this division though, except maybe scraping into the play-offs, and would probably see any promoted team torn to shreds.

Rodger's tactics, on the other hand, would probably work better in the premier with different players, but it's hard to see them working in this division with players who've never played 4-3-3 in their lives.



think you're right there. also think you're probably right about BR who's probably used to working with better, brighter footballers who're used to more complicated/sophisticated training managers.

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