Championship Manager Sackings

[Sun Tzu]

No way will BR be sacked after paying watford a compensation fee, and with the "contract" payment he would have to pay BR there is no way that the tightarse would risk losing anymore money, he would rather see us at the bottom than dip into his shallow pockets !

This is probably pretty accurate. For several reasons, Madejski will not have a knee-jerk reaction to this, not least due to what it would cost to hire someone else.

It needn't cost more to hire anyone else than it does to employ the current manager. There are hundreds of unemployed managers...

Paying off 3 or 4 contracts which still have several years on them would be the major expense and it's got to be a factor, although not the only or even major one.

[Ryn]

It needn't cost more to hire anyone else than it does to employ the current manager. There are hundreds of unemployed managers...

Economics not your strong point mate? Brendan ROFLodgers will be paid out his contract, then we will have to pay someone else to come and do the job properly.

Effectively you are paying two people to do the same job, which costs more.

Unless you know someone who will do the job for free, obviously.

[strap]

The club aren't as short sighted as some of the fans.

No Sun, they're even more short-sighted! Selling off assets and replacing with panic buying dross is a sure fire winner isn't it!

[Sun Tzu]

It needn't cost more to hire anyone else than it does to employ the current manager. There are hundreds of unemployed managers...

Economics not your strong point mate? .

Stronger than your reading skills I'd guess !!

[(.)Boobies(.)]

The club aren't as short sighted as some of the fans.

No Sun, they're even more short-sighted! Selling off assets and replacing with panic buying dross is a sure fire winner isn't it!

What panic buying? I would agree we spent far too much time on Tommy Smith, but he had him until Portsmouth suddenly had some money to spend. You can't fault Rodgers bringing in McAnuff and Rasiak. Two very good players at this level. I can tell you Mills was a long term target, pre Rodgers.
Our problem is too many changes in a short space of time. Nothing at all to do with the players brought in.

[Sun Tzu]

Our problem is too many changes in a short space of time. Nothing at all to do with the players brought in.

Or not having had enough time to let the changes bed in !!


The vast majority of the changes were enforced (or necessary). In fact I'm not sure there has been any change which you could look at and say' that was wrong' (and get 100% support !).

Marcus may be one candidate, but Federici has been more than adequate a replacement.

Doyle, Bikey and Hunt wanted to go and we certainly owed Doyle his move.

Rosneior was roundly slated on here, as has Harps been for years.

[Sun Tzu]

Our problem is too many changes in a short space of time. Nothing at all to do with the players brought in.

Or not having had enough time to let the changes bed in !!

Oh sweet Jesus, I refuse to accept more of these excuses.

The excuses have got to stop. At which point do people like you start to accept the facts, and stop inventing excuses to protect your ego from having to deal with your idol Rodgers being a failure??
First it was 10 matches. Now we have played 9, and we still look shit. So now people are saying 20 matches.
I bet by the time we have played 20 matches they'll still be going "give him more time" and then they'll add "the transfer window opens soon, just wait til Rodgers brings in some WORLD CLASS players, then we'll come good, he'll be a legend, just wait and see!" and "all the moaners will have egg on their face when Rodgers takes us up".
Can you not see how completely ridiculous these excuses are??

FACE THE FACTS - IT IS NOT HAPPENING, THE RODGERS REVOLUTION IS OVER - IT WAS SHIT FROM THE GET GO.

So much anger, so sad in someone so young.

LOL that 9 matches is even close to enough to build a team.

And LOL that you have any idea what constitutes a fact !!

[T.R.O.L.I.]

Sturrock's got to be the favourite - something like 5 wins in his last 40 league games.

[Wycombe Royal]

You are aware that most managers use preseason to build the team? Obviously our preseason is intended to last until Christmas then

Most new managers don't have to deal with getting together 75% of a first team squad in pre-season (obviously I haven't counted to see if 75% is accurate but most of our youngsters weren't in the first team squad regularly last season).

It is going to take longer than most to get this "team" sorted, especially when you have two key players just returning from injury.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Yep, because Coppell has such a great history of improving teams that are on the slide.

Brighton.

He was at Brighton for one season and they got relegated. He improved them, but he's never been a "quick-fix" type of manager.


Writing off a manager who had to sell his best players, and couldn't sign replacements until they'd gone, after just 9 games is just a stupid knee jerk reaction.

[Wycombe Royal]

Rodgers is lucky that there is someone with a mind-altering disease who he can compare himself to.. otherwise he'd probably get sacked first.

Excuses.. excuses.. excuses.

So what's your view on Roy Keane then?

[Deathy]

Sturrock's got to be the favourite - something like 5 wins in his last 40 league games.

Rodgers doing well to emulate this 1 win every 8 games ratio. In fact, Rodgers is bettering it.

[winchester_royal]

Rodgers is lucky that there is someone with a mind-altering disease who he can compare himself to.. otherwise he'd probably get sacked first.

Excuses.. excuses.. excuses.

You're a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Only you could use a pretty horrific disease as a way of enforcing your anit-Rodgers argument.

[Starfish]

Rodgers is lucky that there is someone with a mind-altering disease who he can compare himself to.. otherwise he'd probably get sacked first.

Excuses.. excuses.. excuses.

So what's your view on Roy Keane then?

I suspect Ipswich will probably stick with him for a while and that if there is a change of management at the club, it will be because he walks. He didn't buy well, has been in charge since last May and never seems to endear himself to players. Didn't he claim that there were players in his squad who would never play under him again - after the first game of the season? It must be great to hear that if you are a player.

Fantastic player but he has a lot of work to do to prove himself managerially. And one would think that he will not find it that easy to get another job if he loses his job at Ipswich - a club that did not seem to be in bad shape when he took over. Where would he go? LoI? He'll be there for a while yet, I imagine.

Sturrock it is then.

[Royalee]

Potentially we could notch up four straight losses, and it would be impossible for Rodgers to remain in the job if that happens.

Wed 26 13:00 A West Ham Utd PREM D 1-1 34,277
Sat 29 15:00 A Tottenham PREM L 4-6 36,178
January
Tue 1 15:00 H Portsmouth PREM L 0-2 24,084
Sat 5 15:00 A Tottenham FACP D 2-2 35,243
Sat 12 15:00 A Aston Villa PREM L 1-3 38,288
Tue 15 20:00 H Tottenham FACP L 0-1 22,130
Sat 19 15:00 H Man Utd PREM L 0-2 24,135
Wed 30 19:45 A Chelsea PREM L 0-1 41,171
February
Sat 2 15:00 H Bolton PREM L 0-2 21,893
Sat 9 15:00 A Everton PREM L 0-1 36,582
Sun 24 12:30 H Aston Villa PREM L 1-2 23,889

Prick.

[Royalee]

Why was our previous manager not sacked after losing 8 straight league games if Rodgers is a certainty to be sacked after 4? Dipshit mong.

[Wycombe Royal]

Rodgers is lucky that there is someone with a mind-altering disease who he can compare himself to.. otherwise he'd probably get sacked first.

Excuses.. excuses.. excuses.

So what's your view on Roy Keane then?

Still waiting......

[Starfish]

Article in The Guardian about Keane.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... swich-town

Roy Keane's great expectations turn into hard times at Ipswich
The Ipswich manager says fans are right to boo him, but the club's owner, Marcus Evans, has given Keane his backing

The Ipswich Town fans who booed Roy Keane after the 4-0 home defeat by Newcastle on Sunday have found an unlikely ally – the manager himself. When Keane was abused by Sunderland supporters towards the end of his spell at the Stadium of Light, he condemned their "lack of respect" but this time he has declared fans were right to jeer him and admitted he has so far failed to achieve very much at Portman Road.
"Since I've been involved in football I've always brought something to the clubs I've been involved with but I've not brought anything to Ipswich," said the 38-year-old Keane with typical bluntness. Brought in last April to deliver promotion from the Championship within two years, he has yet to produce a league win in nine matches this season, presiding over the worst start in Ipswich's 73-year history.
The club's owner, Marcus Evans, seldom speaks publicly and has not made any statement on their predicament but, with another game looming at Sheffield United tonight, Keane raised the prospect he may be sacked. "If I was a supporter, looking at our results, I would be booing me. It's part and parcel of the game. The bottom line is, if results don't improve, I'm sure there will be changes. I'll be losing my job."
Coming a day after confessing he may have been "found out" and wondering whether Ipswich's woes suggested luck had been responsible for the success he enjoyed at Sunderland, whom he guided to promotion from the Championship in 2007 and survival in the Premier League the following year, Keane's words reflect a realist who may be wrestling with self-doubt. "Like my players I am doing my best," he said. "If it's not good enough, so be it. I'll be the one losing my job. That's life and we'll have to get on with it."
If Keane is losing confidence in himself, it is only after losing it in many of his players. Over the summer he claimed the pursuit of promotion would not entail overhauling a squad that had finished ninth last season, but by the time the transfer window closed he had offloaded 12 players and brought in 11 for net expenditure of around £7m.
Still the side continues to leak goals – conceding the joint-most in their division – and, partly because the centre-back Alex Bruce has been ruled out for at least two weeks with a groin injury, he is attempting to sign two more defenders on loan, one of whom may be Sol Campbell.
"There are two targets I have in mind. We're working very hard but there's a bit to go yet in the negotiations. There has been progress in the last 24 hours and I'm a bit more hopeful of something happening before the weekend."
Talk of new signings is unlikely to trigger much anticipation in Ipswich, since none of Keane's recruits has been a big hit yet. Indeed, some of the manager's signings have mystified fans – Colin Healy was bought from Cork City in July but already seems to have been jettisoned, while the striker Tamas Priskin has scored one league goal since joining from Watford.
Keane has stuck to a 4-5-1 formation since the start of the season in which one midfielder holds while the other four seem to roam freely. The appeal of such a scheme is its fluidity, the drawback that it takes time for players to familiarise themselves with it and each other.
Keane does not yet appear sure which of his charges it is more likely to suit, as he regularly switches personnel. The sole acquisition who has so far looked better than average has been the former Manchester United reserve Lee Martin but, confusingly, he has recently been omitted, while two favourites from last year, the midfielder Owen Garvan and full-back David Wright, have hardly appeared.
At Sunderland Keane was acclaimed for the professionalism he instilled and at Ipswich he has overseen similar progress. Fingerprint sensors now restrict entry to the club's training ground, for instance, and gym facilities have been enhanced. Keane plays a more active role in training than he did at Sunderland, having moved to Suffolk rather than commute from Cheshire. Nonetheless, some of the shortcomings of which he was accused at Sunderland may also have resurfaced. There key relationships unravelled and, ominously, now too there are widespread reports – all denied by the players – of discontent with Keane's man-management.
The manager is believed to retain the trust of his employer. Evans has a reputation for ruthlessness in business but showed patience in Keane's predecessor, Jim Magilton, the target of fan hostility for months before being dismissed, and then only when the play-offs were out of reach. Ipswich would have to remain in the relegation zone for at least another couple of months before Evans is likely to give up on Keane. A more pertinent issue, perhaps, is whether Keane will wait that long.

[Starfish]

I don't know why you ask this, because my views on Roy Keane have been quite clear here for a number of years.
I think he is a common street thug, a buffoon, possibly suffering from mental illness and/or retardation of some sort.

I am far from fond of Keane but he is far from stupid. He is not looking like a great manager but there have been very very few better players to play in England over the past twenty years.

[gazzer, loyal royal]

Why was our previous manager not sacked after losing 8 straight league games if Rodgers is a certainty to be sacked after 4? Dipshit mong.

well if you must know, Coppell offered his resignation after the 7th one and it was flat rejected