Doobs

[Alan Partridge]

He was better than Pearce last season and the season before.

He was consistantly ok for us doing what he does, he was never a ball playing centre half but he was superb in the air, a good member of the squad and he did a decent job for a couple of years. 34/35 now? Clearly passed his best wasnt' the future to keep him on.

He clearly splits opinion but the guy in his career played in the CHampions LEague I believe he won a UEFA cup and a cup winners cup while also playing the vast majority of his career playing in the Premiership. £800,000 he was a decent enough signing for the club.

When you consider Mills was £2million shows you don't get much for your money these days.

Interesting of note that Pearce is the one being looked at as this saviour held back by Duberry playing almost. Almost identical type of players, just that Duberry at 34 is still quicker than him.

Pearce plays the simple pass and looks to keep the ball a lot more than Duberry ever did. He also reads the game better than Duberry and both are slow. Mills will come good also, but both are far better than Duberry - no coincidence that his signing coincided with our collapse, or that Stoke went from strength to strength once he left them.

Stoke had the best defensive record in the division when he was captain there and had played every game, when we signed him. It had more to do with the fact Stoke signed some strikers.

Pearce is the guy that almost fell over his own feet while attempting a booted clearance against Leicester?

Duberry played either a simple square pass or he generally just aimed it forward, i wouldn't dispute that. But he was ok in the main for Reading. I don't agree in what (limited albeit) amount I've seen of Mills he is significantly better than Duberry, who was 10 years his senior and not even half the price tag.

[Focher]

i don't rate Pearce in the slightest so i won't mention him as any kind of adequate defender.

With regards to Doobs at Stoke, look at how many goals they scored that season, there is a similarity appearing. Of course its not down to Doobs to set up the strikers, but it does help if you can actually get the ball to your creative players first.

[Royal With Cheese]

ALOL at people rating him above Pearce.

Yes, Pearce is streets ahead of the man who won League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and European Super Cup and has played over a hundred times in top flight of the English football.

Pearce is also currently better at playing cricket than W G Grace too.

[Archie's penalty]

Well done guys for taking apart the h8ers that are Floyd and Royalee.

I'm not going to h8 on Pearce but the clearance against Leicester was one of my favourite moments of the season so far.

[floyd__streete]

Well done guys for taking apart the h8ers that are Floyd and Royalee.

How have I been taken apart here in any capacity? My opinions on Duberry have been backed up by others here on this thread. I have not compared Duberry to Pearce at all.....I don't overly rate either of them.

Besides which, you hardly attend any games anyway so I don't gave a damn what you think about anything in all honesty.

[Archie's penalty]

Well done guys for taking apart the h8ers that are Floyd and Royalee.

How have I been taken apart here in any capacity? My opinions on Duberry have been backed up by others here on this thread. I have not compared Duberry to Pearce at all.....I don't overly rate either of them.

Besides which, you hardly attend any games anyway so I don't gave a damn what you think about anything in all honesty.

Touched a nerve there it seems eh.

My point was more aimed at Royalee anyway tbf.

[Royalee]

ALOL at people rating him above Pearce.

Yes, Pearce is streets ahead of the man who won League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and European Super Cup and has played over a hundred times in top flight of the English football.

Pearce is also currently better at playing cricket than W G Grace too.

David May has won the Champions League, was he a better defender than John Terry?

[Royalee]

Well done guys for taking apart the h8ers that are Floyd and Royalee.

I'm not going to h8 on Pearce but the clearance against Leicester was one of my favourite moments of the season so far.

Sorry, was there a goal from it? Every defender makes mistakes, but Pearce doesn't make as many as Duberry did with all his 'experience' in his failed 2 and a half years with us. What has everyone got against Pearce anyway? There's some phobia that because he's come through our youth system he must be rubbish and every mini error is scrutinised. Sonko kicked the ball at his face and it went off for a throw in ffs, doesn't mean he wasn't a key part of our promotion team.

[Royalee]

He was better than Pearce last season and the season before.

He was consistantly ok for us doing what he does, he was never a ball playing centre half but he was superb in the air, a good member of the squad and he did a decent job for a couple of years. 34/35 now? Clearly passed his best wasnt' the future to keep him on.

He clearly splits opinion but the guy in his career played in the CHampions LEague I believe he won a UEFA cup and a cup winners cup while also playing the vast majority of his career playing in the Premiership. £800,000 he was a decent enough signing for the club.

When you consider Mills was £2million shows you don't get much for your money these days.

Interesting of note that Pearce is the one being looked at as this saviour held back by Duberry playing almost. Almost identical type of players, just that Duberry at 34 is still quicker than him.

Pearce plays the simple pass and looks to keep the ball a lot more than Duberry ever did. He also reads the game better than Duberry and both are slow. Mills will come good also, but both are far better than Duberry - no coincidence that his signing coincided with our collapse, or that Stoke went from strength to strength once he left them.

Stoke had the best defensive record in the division when he was captain there and had played every game, when we signed him. It had more to do with the fact Stoke signed some strikers.

Pearce is the guy that almost fell over his own feet while attempting a booted clearance against Leicester?

Duberry played either a simple square pass or he generally just aimed it forward, i wouldn't dispute that. But he was ok in the main for Reading. I don't agree in what (limited albeit) amount I've seen of Mills he is significantly better than Duberry, who was 10 years his senior and not even half the price tag.

He wasn't even capable mentally or technically of playing a square pass, that was the problem. Maybe if he'd played a few more we might have retained possession a lot better when he was on the pitch. Mills is faster than Duberry, stronger than him and has all the raw attributes required - I've seen him pass the ball to a blue and white shirt on the wing further away than that clown at Wycombe could aimlessly hoof it.

[Terminal Boardom]

Pearce has a hell of a lot to learn. The same can be said for Mills. I can't make up my mind about O'Dea. Ingimarsson is showing signs of wear and tear. All in all, we are more than covered at CB and with these 4 we will win loads of matches and trophies.

Basically, it is too early to say about Pearce and Mills. Are they the future? Who knows. Only time will tell. I would be happier with a little more pace from our central defenders.

As for Doobs, I have seen worse but age certainly seems to have caught up with him which, considering his long career, is a shame. At least he is prepared to keep playing, and at a level where his experience can be passed on to players coming through.

[Terminal Boardom]

Mills is faster than Duberry, stronger than him and has all the raw attributes required - I've seen him pass the ball to a blue and white shirt on the wing further away than that clown at Wycombe could aimlessly hoof it.

And Mills doesn't hoof it? Did you go to the Leicester game? That's all he did all game long!

[Focher]

i would say that Mills tries the long ball too much, he actually tries to pass it.

Doobs hoofed it aimlessly.

[Archie's penalty]

Doobs is obviously too old. I just wanted to say that he did an allright job for us last year. We didn't exactly let in lots of goals now did we? (although Charlton at home was terrible of course).

[Alan Partridge]

Well done guys for taking apart the h8ers that are Floyd and Royalee.

I'm not going to h8 on Pearce but the clearance against Leicester was one of my favourite moments of the season so far.

Sorry, was there a goal from it? Every defender makes mistakes, but Pearce doesn't make as many as Duberry did with all his 'experience' in his failed 2 and a half years with us. What has everyone got against Pearce anyway? There's some phobia that because he's come through our youth system he must be rubbish and every mini error is scrutinised. Sonko kicked the ball at his face and it went off for a throw in ffs, doesn't mean he wasn't a key part of our promotion team.

What have you got agaisnt Doobs? if you want to go down that road, I can't remember Duberry ever turning round to have a go at someone else while the ball was still in play, crossed in and the man I'm supposed to be marking heads in the 2nd goal. (Newcastle btw)

I don't mind Pearce in all honesty, I think he's a reasonable championship defender that hopefully in time might carve out a career for himself, if it's half as good as Duberry's he'll make a decent career for himself.

[FiNeRaIn]

Plus fvcking one AP.

People slating Doobs know nothing about football, this is obvious. The guy in his prime was a decent no nonsense prem defender. Nowhere near top quality but he could do a job for a lot of prem teams and he DID do his job. He' now 35 and way below what he used to be, thats what happens when you get old, tell me you understand something as simple as this?

I like pearce but comparing the two just shows how retarded some people on here are. One is an up and coming young player who is making mistakes as any young player and the other a seasoned pro now hugely on the decline to retirement. Pearce is being subject to some absolutely embarrassing criticism. Every one calls for young player to come in and be given a chance and as soon as they are and make a few mistakes everyone calls them s**t - thats just how fickle football fans are. Pearce has had some great games for us and has had some shockers, just like the rest of the team has. He may well develop into a good player for this club but equally he may not realise his potential. People need to get a grip of reality, this group of players has not won at home for the best part of a year, take any individual out of this mess and put them in a team playing well and you'll be able to see how they play with confidence.

Thank you doobs for a few years of professionalism for us and best of luck with your up and coming retirement within the near future.
Pearce, ignore the ignorant fools and continue to work on your game.

[Royal With Cheese]

ALOL at people rating him above Pearce.

Yes, Pearce is streets ahead of the man who won League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and European Super Cup and has played over a hundred times in top flight of the English football.

Pearce is also currently better at playing cricket than W G Grace too.

David May has won the Champions League, was he a better defender than John Terry?

No, but he was a better defender than Pearce is.

Hell, Martin Hicks was a better defender than Pearce currently is.

[Terminal Boardom]

David May has won the Champions League, was he a better defender than John Terry?

No, but he was a better defender than Pearce is.

Hell, Martin Hicks was a better defender than Pearce currently is.

Currently being the key word!

[Focher]

Thank you doobs for a few years of professionalism for us .

Cardiff at home?

[ZacNaloen]

[quote]
What have you got agaisnt Doobs? if you want to go down that road, I can't remember Duberry ever turning round to have a go at someone else while the ball was still in play, crossed in and the man I'm supposed to be marking heads in the 2nd goal. (Newcastle btw)[/quote

So the criticism for Pearce in that instance has changed from


"Pearce should have chased the ball down!"


to

"Pearce should have intercepted the cross!"

Pearce was shouting at whoever was nearest the ball to get the bloody thing off the pitch. Everyone was out of position and at least three players were at fault.

[handbags_harris]

Thank you doobs for a few years of professionalism for us .

Cardiff at home?

Thanks for that as well