Doobs

[Thomas L'Heureux]

People slating Doobs know nothing about football, this is obvious. The guy in his prime was a decent no nonsense prem defender. Nowhere near top quality but he could do a job for a lot of prem teams and he DID do his job. He' now 35 and way below what he used to be, thats what happens when you get old, tell me you understand something as simple as this?

How does this relate to anything about Reading FC? Fair enough this is General Football but the debate is regarding the job Doobs did for us, not what he was capable of fifteen years ago.

And you claim others know nothing...

[Alan Partridge]

What have you got agaisnt Doobs? if you want to go down that road, I can't remember Duberry ever turning round to have a go at someone else while the ball was still in play, crossed in and the man I'm supposed to be marking heads in the 2nd goal. (Newcastle btw)[/quote

So the criticism for Pearce in that instance has changed from


"Pearce should have chased the ball down!"


to

"Pearce should have intercepted the cross!"

Pearce was shouting at whoever was nearest the ball to get the bloody thing off the pitch. Everyone was out of position and at least three players were at fault.

The ball was in play, he turned, stopped (thinking it was going out) and had a go at someone giving his man Ameobi a free run into the box and a free header.

It wasn't solely Pearce's fault but his part in it was atrocious play. One of the worst bits of defending I've seen in a long time.

But I accept he's what 20? 21? He's going to make basic errors everyone does, and as already stated I quite like him.

That's where Royalee's 'experience' jibe actually pays dividend, because it's just a youthful error. It's a misjudgement, carelessness, call it what you want.

Back to Doobs, I loved that Cardiff match towards the end, Federici's winner was genius but for once I wish Duberry's original header had gone in, oh the LOLz if he'd scored the goal. He enjoyed it enough as it was I suppose and the BANT he gave the cardiff fans still makes me chuckle

[Royalee]

Well done guys for taking apart the h8ers that are Floyd and Royalee.

I'm not going to h8 on Pearce but the clearance against Leicester was one of my favourite moments of the season so far.

Sorry, was there a goal from it? Every defender makes mistakes, but Pearce doesn't make as many as Duberry did with all his 'experience' in his failed 2 and a half years with us. What has everyone got against Pearce anyway? There's some phobia that because he's come through our youth system he must be rubbish and every mini error is scrutinised. Sonko kicked the ball at his face and it went off for a throw in ffs, doesn't mean he wasn't a key part of our promotion team.

What have you got agaisnt Doobs?

The fact that he was brought in for experience and professionalism and showed absolutely none of it, he was a complete waste of money when we should have been improving the team, not bringing in people for the sake of it and the failure of many fans to accept that he was utterly useless for us, when they instead just blindly point to the fact that 'he played in the Champions League Semi Final once. He was brought in at the expense of Bikey when we went down and as a direct result of that we struggled. Don't believe me? Go and have a look at the points output when Marek and Bikey started in the same eleven during the back end of that season. Then last year he was brought in after Xmas and cost us endless possession and goals with his stupidity and to compound this, he was made CAPTAIN for the playoffs which was an absolute joke.

[floyd__streete]

What have you got agaisnt Doobs?

The fact that he was brought in for experience and professionalism and showed absolutely none of it, he was a complete waste of money when we should have been improving the team, not bringing in people for the sake of it and the failure of many fans to accept that he was utterly useless for us, when they instead just blindly point to the fact that 'he played in the Champions League Semi Final once.

Yep.

LOL @ praising an over-the-hill footballer for showing professionalism when there is bog all else positive to say about his impact. Thanks Doobs for not smashing up a Kebab shop at 3am on the morning of an important league game.

[papereyes]

I think we needed him at times last season but I also think a better signing in that first Premiership season would have been infinitely better. Someone younger and more mobile.

[Alan Partridge]

I think we needed him at times last season but I also think a better signing in that first Premiership season would have been infinitely better. Someone younger and more mobile.

No arguements. But we'll never know how much he had to spend and who he could bring in. Duberry was a stop gap for Sonko. The problem was Sonko coming back and being beyond dire.

Duberry was still ok in his Reading stint. He had some very good games for the club despite all this h8.

[Royalee]

I think his debut set the tone where he fouled Viduka to give away a free kick at Boro, then played everyone onside for them to score from it.

I can only remember him being outstanding at St Andrews last season and beyond that I really am struggling to think of decent performances he put in for us.

[Alan Partridge]

I think his debut set the tone where he fouled Viduka to give away a free kick at Boro, then played everyone onside for them to score from it.

I can only remember him being outstanding at St Andrews last season and beyond that I really am struggling to think of decent performances he put in for us.

Man Utd away?

I don't remember individual games but there were a fair few in the last couple of years where i thought he was good. Think the worst game I saw him have was at Blackburn, the 3-3. A Lionel Blair of a performance.

[Royalee]

I'll give you Man Utd away AP, although he did get lucky that he injured Rooney that day or I think things may have turned out very differently. His poor games far outweighed the good ones though!

[Royal With Cheese]

David May has won the Champions League, was he a better defender than John Terry?

No, but he was a better defender than Pearce is.

Hell, Martin Hicks was a better defender than Pearce currently is.

Currently being the key word!

And that is exactly my point.

We can look back at two retired footballers and have this discussion. It all seems a bit pointless.

[Focher]

I agree that its not right to compare Pearce with retired or over the hill footballers, he's too young and has much more to learn. But.....

I cannot for the life of me see how Pearce is going to get any better with such limited footballing ability and being this slow at 20.

[The whole year inn]

I cannot for the life of me see how Pearce is going to get any better with such limited footballing ability and being this slow at 20.

He wont.

[FiNeRaIn]

People slating Doobs know nothing about football, this is obvious. The guy in his prime was a decent no nonsense prem defender. Nowhere near top quality but he could do a job for a lot of prem teams and he DID do his job. He' now 35 and way below what he used to be, thats what happens when you get old, tell me you understand something as simple as this?

How does this relate to anything about Reading FC? Fair enough this is General Football but the debate is regarding the job Doobs did for us, not what he was capable of fifteen years ago.

And you claim others know nothing...

What a poor and irrelevant post, try reading the chain of events in the thread before you add your two cents next time.

Scraping the very bottom of the barrel for a post there mate. Completely bereft of any context.

[PEARCEY]

What have you got agaisnt Doobs? if you want to go down that road, I can't remember Duberry ever turning round to have a go at someone else while the ball was still in play, crossed in and the man I'm supposed to be marking heads in the 2nd goal. (Newcastle btw)[/quote

So the criticism for Pearce in that instance has changed from


"Pearce should have chased the ball down!"


to

"Pearce should have intercepted the cross!"

Pearce was shouting at whoever was nearest the ball to get the bloody thing off the pitch. Everyone was out of position and at least three players were at fault.

The ball was in play, he turned, stopped (thinking it was going out) and had a go at someone giving his man Ameobi a free run into the box and a free header.

It wasn't solely Pearce's fault but his part in it was atrocious play. One of the worst bits of defending I've seen in a long time.

But I accept he's what 20? 21? He's going to make basic errors everyone does, and as already stated I quite like him.

That's where Royalee's 'experience' jibe actually pays dividend, because it's just a youthful error. It's a misjudgement, carelessness, call it what you want.

Back to Doobs, I loved that Cardiff match towards the end, Federici's winner was genius but for once I wish Duberry's original header had gone in, oh the LOLz if he'd scored the goal. He enjoyed it enough as it was I suppose and the BANT he gave the cardiff fans still makes me chuckle

Fed's "winner" wasn't quite so genius as it salavaged a point from the game

[Thomas L'Heureux]

People slating Doobs know nothing about football, this is obvious. The guy in his prime was a decent no nonsense prem defender. Nowhere near top quality but he could do a job for a lot of prem teams and he DID do his job. He' now 35 and way below what he used to be, thats what happens when you get old, tell me you understand something as simple as this?

How does this relate to anything about Reading FC? Fair enough this is General Football but the debate is regarding the job Doobs did for us, not what he was capable of fifteen years ago.

And you claim others know nothing...

What a poor and irrelevant post, try reading the chain of events in the thread before you add your two cents next time.

Scraping the very bottom of the barrel for a post there mate. Completely bereft of any context.

All I'm doing is pointing out that you've made a point that has absolutely no relevance to the debate as nobody is judging Doobs on his career as a whole, and what he was capable of in his prime, they're judging him on his time at Reading FC. Furthermore, that is not me 'adding my two cents'.

People are rightfully comparing Doobs to Pearce because they were both here and playing last season, whilst this season Doobs has been shipped out and Pearce has played a more important role in the team. Neither really inspire me to be honest with you, but that's another point altogether.

Your claim of "People slating Doobs know nothing about football, this is obvious" perhaps needs a bit of context of its own don't you think? We signed a player who was, in your own words, on the decline whilst we were struggling to stay in the Premiership and some fans are rightfully airing their views that it wasn't a particularly inspiring signing at the time and that is why Doobs is unfavourable amongst some areas of our support. Nobody is judging him on what he did earlier in his career, nor what he was capable of in his prime, so why did you feel this was worth a mention?

Perhaps you should follow your own advice a put things into context before posting yourself, eh fella?

[Royalee]

Captain Doobs was dropped last night.

[Alan Partridge]

Captain Doobs was dropped last night.

And they lost again.

[Royalee]

Captain Doobs was dropped last night.

And they lost again.

They let in 4 less goals though

[Alan Partridge]

Captain Doobs was dropped last night.

And they lost again.

They let in 4 less goals though

weaker team m8

[AthleticoSpizz]

I'll give you Man Utd away AP, although he did get lucky that he injured Rooney that day or I think things may have turned out very differently. His poor games far outweighed the good ones though!

Royalee
Re: Matejovsky
Royalee, 27 Oct 2009 18:50

This boy knows no shame