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OFCOM to reduce price of TV sport?

by Dirk Gently » 17 Jan 2010 20:13

Armchair sports fans will soon have something to cheer, with the cost of watching live football, cricket and rugby on ­television set to plunge as rivals attempt to end the dominance of Rupert Murdoch's ­satellite broadcaster BSkyB.

BT and Virgin expect to capitalise on plans by the media watchdog, Ofcom, that will force Sky to drop the price it charges rival broadcasters for its Sky Sports channels in the biggest shake-up of sports TV for almost two decades. Prices should drop in time for the 2010/2011 Premier League football season.

But while viewers are likely to benefit from a price war that would challenge the hold Sky has had since it bought its first football rights in 1992, Ofcom's move could present David Cameron with a major headache.......


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jan/17/tv-sport-media-ofcom-sky

Could be very interesting.

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Re: OFCOM to reduce price of TV sport?

by AthleticoSpizz » 17 Jan 2010 20:18

great



and ALL NATIONAL GAMES should be free-to-view for all

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Re: OFCOM to reduce price of TV sport?

by Ian Royal » 17 Jan 2010 20:35

My initial thought is that's going to put a dent in TV money. Is that justified I wonder?

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by buzzby » 17 Jan 2010 21:05

Sounds great, but how poor is terrestrial TV's coverage of sport. Look at the advances in technology that SKY have brought in.

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by John Madejski's Wallet » 17 Jan 2010 21:18

seems somehow wrong to force someone to sell their product cheaper........... if virgin/BT want the rights then they should bid for them


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by Stranded » 18 Jan 2010 07:40

buzzby Sounds great, but how poor is terrestrial TV's coverage of sport. Look at the advances in technology that SKY have brought in.


If terrestial TV had more of it they would be better at it.

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by Comfortably Numb » 18 Jan 2010 08:09

Ian Royal My initial thought is that's going to put a dent in TV money. Is that justified I wonder?


Hope so. It might help bring some of this ridiculas spending under control.

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by Silver Fox » 18 Jan 2010 09:12

While it would be nice to pay less for my subscription I really don't like private companies being told how to run their businesses. If companies other than Sky want to broadcast the footage Sky owns and has paid for then it's up to the two parties to decide on the price. It's a result of beaureaucratic (sp?) meddling that I already pay an extra tenner because it's supposed to be good for the fans that someone other than Sky has a few games

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by Barry the bird boggler » 18 Jan 2010 09:33

buzzby Sounds great, but how poor is terrestrial TV's coverage of sport. Look at the advances in technology that SKY have brought in.


I hate SKY and its plastic coverage. It's no better than terrestrial.... I really don't want 12 hundred camera angles of the same incident none of which prove conclusive, and lots of endless yak about games


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by TBM » 18 Jan 2010 10:13

buzzby Sounds great, but how poor is terrestrial TV's coverage of sport. Look at the advances in technology that SKY have brought in.


Whats wrong with Andy Townsend in his truck???? :?

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Re: OFCOM to reduce price of TV sport?

by Platypuss » 18 Jan 2010 11:37

Comfortably Numb ridiculas


Hi Jay.

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by Dirk Gently » 18 Jan 2010 12:38

buzzby Sounds great, but how poor is terrestrial TV's coverage of sport. Look at the advances in technology that SKY have brought in.


That's not really relevant to this judgement, though - this is all about the price by which Sky sell their packages to the likes of Virgin Media etc - at the moment it's a prohibitive cost, with the idea that this makes the whole Sky package more attractive compared to the competition.

Essentially, Ofcom want an ideal world where the owners of the product are different to the owners of the delivery mechanism for that product. In this case they're obviously not different, so Ofcom are saying that the product has to be made available to the owners of other delivery mechanisms at a fairer price. What is a "fair price" is the case in point.

I can personally tell you that Sky are utterly livid about this, and it probably will reduce the cost of subscriptions and therefore the overall value of the TV contract to football.

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by Comfortably Numb » 18 Jan 2010 15:44

I still can't understand why in today's media age the football clubs cannot sell their own rights to their own home games to whoever they like.

From a market point-of-view (and a customer one) the value of each asset should be on the market to the highest bidder.

The League is a Trust in the economic sense and it bends to market to its own end. It restricts free trading and competition, it is a cartel.
It dominates a market and causes these anti-competitive practices that entrench its dominant position.

In each league each team sells their home rights, and therefore each "richer" (or "poorer") club would visit twice, this would provide (of all things) a level playing field.

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Hi Jay.


Er, oxf*rd right off!


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by Dirk Gently » 18 Jan 2010 19:11

Comfortably Numb I still can't understand why in today's media age the football clubs cannot sell their own rights to their own home games to whoever they like.

From a market point-of-view (and a customer one) the value of each asset should be on the market to the highest bidder.

The League is a Trust in the economic sense and it bends to market to its own end. It restricts free trading and competition, it is a cartel.
It dominates a market and causes these anti-competitive practices that entrench its dominant position.

In each league each team sells their home rights, and therefore each "richer" (or "poorer") club would visit twice, this would provide (of all things) a level playing field.


They could, and the EU wanted them to - there was a typical political "fudge" by forcing competition in broadcasters and not allowing the collective rights to be sold to just one (Sky).

But the clubs do recognise, to their credit, that collective selling is in the interests of the league as a whole and them individually. You'd have the Big 4 selling their rights for vast sums, and the Burnleys and Boltons getting peanuts. The gap between the Big 4 and the rest would get so big so quickly that the league would pretty much collapse (or at least turn into what they have in Scotland, with 4 not 2 clubs), and so the rights of the Big 4 would decrease in value as well if that happened. They do recognise the need for some opposition, and they're happy with the financial advantage that prize money and CL moneys gives them over the others - so they are happy to subsidise the other clubs in the league.

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Re: OFCOM to reduce price of TV sport?

by PEARCEY » 18 Jan 2010 19:35

Got Spy sports back today for half price at £9 a month...decent result. It won't hurt Sky to have to lower their prices. It will probably mean the next TV rights deal will mean less money for football clubs. No bad thing in my mind...its time footballers wages started entering the real world.

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by TheMaraudingDog » 19 Jan 2010 10:40

PEARCEY It won't hurt Sky to have to lower their prices.


What an odd thing to say.

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by Seal » 19 Jan 2010 13:39

Dirk Gently
Comfortably Numb I still can't understand why in today's media age the football clubs cannot sell their own rights to their own home games to whoever they like.

From a market point-of-view (and a customer one) the value of each asset should be on the market to the highest bidder.

The League is a Trust in the economic sense and it bends to market to its own end. It restricts free trading and competition, it is a cartel.
It dominates a market and causes these anti-competitive practices that entrench its dominant position.

In each league each team sells their home rights, and therefore each "richer" (or "poorer") club would visit twice, this would provide (of all things) a level playing field.


They could, and the EU wanted them to - there was a typical political "fudge" by forcing competition in broadcasters and not allowing the collective rights to be sold to just one (Sky).

But the clubs do recognise, to their credit, that collective selling is in the interests of the league as a whole and them individually. You'd have the Big 4 selling their rights for vast sums, and the Burnleys and Boltons getting peanuts. The gap between the Big 4 and the rest would get so big so quickly that the league would pretty much collapse (or at least turn into what they have in Scotland, with 4 not 2 clubs), and so the rights of the Big 4 would decrease in value as well if that happened. They do recognise the need for some opposition, and they're happy with the financial advantage that prize money and CL moneys gives them over the others - so they are happy to subsidise the other clubs in the league.


Exactly. Barca & Real sell their own media rights, and it helps accentuate the gap between them and the rest.

The Premier League formed as a 'collective' and sells its rights as one. From a pure revenue perspective Man U would love to sell their rights separately, but it goes against the whole Premier League model that they signed up to (and have hugely benefited from).

As for this whole SKY issue, it is very interesting, and the big question is indeed the knock on effect to the clubs in terms of the revenue their receive from TV rights. The club accountants will probably be more worried than SKY's.

However, it's hard to say what the exact effect will be. The current PL TV deal runs to 2012, and there will still be some form of 'bidding war' for the TV rights, regardless of the price one is forced to sell them onto rivals at, which may keep the total revenue the PL receives in line with existing deals. It would however appear that the never ending rise in deal value is over.

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Re: OFCOM to reduce price of TV sport?

by Dirk Gently » 19 Jan 2010 13:41

Don't forget, also, that the biggest rise in PL income over recent years came from overseas rights, which aren't affected by this ruling.

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