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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Dirk Gently » 20 Jan 2010 14:59

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Thaumagurist* So you want cheats to continue to get away with their crimes.


That's a lesser evil than having the video of every single match scrutinsed and players being banned for anything they did wrong in that match.


At the cost of a more honest team going out of a competition due to the other team cheating?

That's not right, is it?


It's the difference between being able to see the big picture and focussing on one single event.

Lots of teams and players cheat to some degree or other. Some succeed, others don't. C'est la via, n'est pa?

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by TBM » 20 Jan 2010 15:04

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Sarah Star They have video evidence and Henry's admission that he did it. I thought they'd at least give him a one match ban.


No, he admitted that it was handball - he never said he did it on purpose.......infact he said it wasn't intentional. So as said, how can you ban a player for a handball??? - handballs happen every week in football, does that mean everyone should be banned for it??

Even before this investigation they were saying that it was 'blatent unfair playing' so it looks to me like they didn't want to do anything retrospectively rather than not having enough evidence to do anything about it. They're now talking about having more referees and investigating video technology more so maybe they will be doing something in the future.


As i said at the time, IF they had the Europa league refs (whereby 1 stands between the corner flag and goal post) then he would have spotted the handball and the goal would not have been given. Yes Henry handled it, nobody is saying he didn't but where do you draw the line at people being banned for something they do in a match?........if a player fouls a defender and its not spotted and then he scores a goal, will that player then be banned? - if a player takes a dive to gain a free kick which is scored from, will that player then be banned? - If its proved a player is offside but the lino doesn't put his flag up and then the player races through and scores, will that player then be banned?

To be honest i think its up to the officials, if they dont spot/give something then so be it.........its just more call for extra linos and video technology.

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by 1960 » 20 Jan 2010 15:34

I can't believe people saying it wasn't deliberate. How many times in a match do you see the ball going out of play and a player trying his utmost to stop it to save a corner or a forward trying to keep it in to keep the attack going? Loads. How many times do you see the said player handling it to stop it? Never.

Henry deliberately stuck his hand out to stop the ball going off. Then, just to make sure, he handled it again to gain proper control. Accidental my arse.

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by TBM » 20 Jan 2010 15:44

1960 I can't believe people saying it wasn't deliberate. How many times in a match do you see the ball going out of play and a player trying his utmost to stop it to save a corner or a forward trying to keep it in to keep the attack going? Loads. How many times do you see the said player handling it to stop it? Never.

Henry deliberately stuck his hand out to stop the ball going off. Then, just to make sure, he handled it again to gain proper control. Accidental my arse.


:| who is saying it wasn't deliberate?........the argument was just FIFA couldn't prove it was!!!

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Gus the teenage cow » 20 Jan 2010 16:40

Alan Partridge IreLOLand.


come back to me when you've beaten us, last five encounters you haven't quite managed it, oh and you even managed to lose to our useless northern neighbours since you last played us

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by wolsey » 20 Jan 2010 17:58

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1960 I can't believe people saying it wasn't deliberate. How many times in a match do you see the ball going out of play and a player trying his utmost to stop it to save a corner or a forward trying to keep it in to keep the attack going? Loads. How many times do you see the said player handling it to stop it? Never.

Henry deliberately stuck his hand out to stop the ball going off. Then, just to make sure, he handled it again to gain proper control. Accidental my arse.


:| who is saying it wasn't deliberate?........the argument was just FIFA couldn't prove it was!!!


Or that their officials had failed to spot an obvious transgression and act accordingly.

(Although having said that, it would still be head page news in the Red Tops if it had happened to England. Ireland have suffered from the banana skin syndrome - tragedy if it happens to you, comedy gold if it happens to someone else).

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Royal With Cheese » 20 Jan 2010 21:44

Thaumagurist* Dull rubbish with a spelling mistake in it.

It was Eduardo you pedantic twat.

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Wax Jacket » 21 Jan 2010 09:01

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Alan Partridge IreLOLand.


come back to me when you've beaten us, last five encounters you haven't quite managed it, oh and you even managed to lose to our useless northern neighbours since you last played us

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I'll bite

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Thaumagurist* » 21 Jan 2010 09:56

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Thaumagurist* Dull rubbish with a spelling mistake in it.

It was Eduardo you pedantic twat.


It's not a spelling mistake, it was deliberate.


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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Alan Partridge » 21 Jan 2010 10:22

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Alan Partridge IreLOLand.


come back to me when you've beaten us, last five encounters you haven't quite managed it, oh and you even managed to lose to our useless northern neighbours since you last played us

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FaiLOLure to QuaLOLify.

Seriously though, who cares? France are a better team, better players and will be better to watch than Ireland's honest (English) plodders scrape their way to 3rd place in the group.

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by 6ft Kerplunk » 21 Jan 2010 10:24

wolsey (Although having said that, it would still be head page news in the Red Tops if it had happened to England.


Yeah, probably because we're in England not Ireland. :roll:

At worst its a yellow card for a deliberate handball. What can FIFA do, give him a retrospective yellow card that means absolutely nothing?

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Gus the teenage cow » 21 Jan 2010 15:32

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Alan Partridge IreLOLand.


come back to me when you've beaten us, last five encounters you haven't quite managed it, oh and you even managed to lose to our useless northern neighbours since you last played us

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FaiLOLure to QuaLOLify.

Seriously though, who cares? France are a better team, better players and will be better to watch than Ireland's honest (English) plodders scrape their way to 3rd place in the group.


better players maybe, better team, i don't think so, watch the Paris game again.

oh and we have been in three of the last five world cups and qualified from the group each time, don't confuse us with scotland - again I suggest more research but obviously you are from the sky sports/the sun school of cheap ill-founded mythical soundbites.

as for the english thing, i have no problem with that, obviously you do as you mention it at every opportunity and have a quite transparent anti-irish thing going on, first of all try to get over it - we haven't qualified, you should be happy. secondly just for your information three of the starting eleven against france/italy were not born in Ireland. So that makes our football team about as English as your cricket team is South African.

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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Alan Partridge » 21 Jan 2010 15:51

Gus I was expecting more from you, but you bit that easily I am going to move away. I don't hate Ireland at all actually, apart from Stephen Hunt.

The only thing which I really hate irish related is actually nothing to do with Ireland itself. It's over here where everyone tries to be 'part Irish' everyone starts supporting them and Mick from Tilehurst turning up to watch London Irish on St Paddy's day with his giant Guinness hat. It's pathetic. I honestly don't give two shits about the Irish football team and neither should anyone over here yet it's rammed down our throats by the sky sports lot and worse than that, taken on by the prats over here.

Everyone was supposed to be 'gutted' for the Irish for what happened in France, yet 95% of the Irish public will now join everyone else in supporting anyone else but England. So to be honest, tough shit m8.

I think the Irish are going through a major image change. I mean, the old image of Leprechauns, shamrock, Guinness, horses running through council estates, toothless simpletons,
people with eyebrows on their cheeks, badly tarmacced drives – in this country, men in platform shoes being arrested for bombings, lots of rocks, and Beamish. I think people are saying "yes, there’s more to Ireland than this". A good slogan for the tourist board – "Dere’s more to Oireland dan dis."


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Re: Thierry Henry. Why are FIFA so feeble?

by Gus the teenage cow » 21 Jan 2010 16:54

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The only thing which I really hate irish related is actually nothing to do with Ireland itself. It's over here where everyone tries to be 'part Irish' everyone starts supporting them and Mick from Tilehurst turning up to watch London Irish on St Paddy's day with his giant Guinness hat. It's pathetic. I honestly don't give two shits about the Irish football team and neither should anyone over here yet it's rammed down our throats by the sky sports lot and worse than that, taken on by the prats over here.




I agree with that, most people here don't like manufactured Irishness too


Alan Partridge Everyone was supposed to be 'gutted' for the Irish for what happened in France, yet 95% of the Irish public will now join everyone else in supporting anyone else but England. So to be honest, tough shit m8.


ummm no...mainly it's the older generation who have understandable hang-ups about the english or younger simpletons trying to prove they are hard/nationalistic

the largest internet forum in ireland boards.ie recently ran a poll asking who the Irish would be supporting, England topped that poll, I reckon about 30% will be hoping England screw up

Alan Partridge I think the Irish are going through a major image change. I mean, the old image of Leprechauns, shamrock, Guinness, horses running through council estates, toothless simpletons,
people with eyebrows on their cheeks, badly tarmacced drives – in this country, men in platform shoes being arrested for bombings, lots of rocks, and Beamish. I think people are saying "yes, there’s more to Ireland than this". A good slogan for the tourist board – "Dere’s more to Oireland dan dis


nothing wrong with Guinness mate

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