Capello's Index

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Apolgies if this is buried in another thread somewhere......

So who else agrees that Shaun Wright-Phillips ranked higher in the tourney than Ashley Cole?

Robert Green 51.67
Joe Cole 55.45
Glen Johnson 57.18
Ledley King 57.5
Gareth Barry 57.5
Aaron Lennon 57.64
Frank Lampard 58.58
Wayne Rooney 58.87
Jamie Carragher 59.04
David James 59.28
James Milner 59.4
Ashley Cole 59.58
Emile Heskey 60.15
Matthew Upson 60.21
John Terry 60.48
Steven Gerrard 60.98
Shaun Wright-Phillips 61.09
Jermain Defoe 62.47

[TBM]

Depends.....if they had the same game time then we could comment but SWP only played a bit part and didn't really do anything "wrong" (although did nothing "right" either). Ashley Cole did have some good games but was part of the team that drew with USA, Algeria and lost to Germany so must be marked down for that

[SLAMMED]

Are those ratings out of 1000?

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Who is Capllo?

[Ian Royal]

SWP wasn't great by any stretch, but whenever he came on he attacked defences and caused them to worry. Sadly it rarely came off for him, which is par for the course for him. The good thing about SWP is you know he won't hide and he'll always have a go. The bad thing is he'll often fall over his own feet or run into a defender when trying.

Whereas Ashley Cole was part of a defence that was taken to the cleaners by the Germans and who was expected to do a lot of attacking yet did none (not necessarily through much fault of his own).

Emile Heskey also scores highly which isn't surprising seeing as he was generally one of England's best players on the pitch. His problem being he's a striker who can't score. He had very few genuinely bad moments, but did a superb job of winning and holding up or laying off the ball to retain possession. And he got a third ( ) of England's assists as well, playing in Gerrard against the USA.

The question for me, is how the oxf*rd did John Terry outscore Ashley Cole given his disastrous performance against German and general lack of quality at the tournament.

[Barry the bird boggler]

How are these stats calculated?

Anyway I see the Italian job has gone into one over the publication of these which, let's face it, are about as meaningful as any other set of stats i.e. zero!

In fact does anyone have any stats on how meaningful stats of this nature are?

[PieEater]

Stats are useful for showing a trend, it's when people start to draw absolute conclusions from them that causes a problem.

[papereyes]

So, England's players rated from between 5/10 to 6/10.

I'm not sure you can draw too many positives from that, tbh.

[Ian Royal]

So, England's players rated from between 5/10 to 6/10.

I'm not sure you can draw too many positives from that, tbh.

Strictly speaking between 5/10 and 7/10

[Terminal Boardom]

Apparently, Upson scored higher than Lahm when England played Germany

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

How can the press on one hand say that Cappello needs to get rid of all the players who have 'let down' England, then batter him for this index saying he will lose the respect of said players?

Half our problems would go away if the press were not such gutter feeding, clueless cnuts.

[papereyes]

I recently read



and it depresses me that almost all of the stories are more or less the same.

[soggy biscuit]

Half our problems would go away if the British public learned how to form their own opinions and stopped reading and believing every single word of the gutter feeding, clueless press cnuts.

fixed

[Ian Royal]

How can the press on one hand say that Cappello needs to get rid of all the players who have 'let down' England, then batter him for this index saying he will lose the respect of said players?

Half our problems would go away if the press were not such gutter feeding, clueless cnuts.

same applies to most aspects of the country not just football

[leww_rfc]

Apparently, Upson scored higher than Lahm when England played Germany

Obviously goals get a lot for Defenders.