by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 21 Oct 2010 18:58
by Big Foot » 22 Oct 2010 08:46
Rev Algenon Stickleback H East stand tickets for Sale are quoted as £28 on the official site.
And highest quality of rugby in Europe? How many countries even play the game seriously? How many casual spectators would even know the difference between top level and lower level rugby anyway?
by Elmer Park » 22 Oct 2010 09:15
by Svlad Cjelli » 22 Oct 2010 09:27
by Harpers So Solid Crew » 22 Oct 2010 09:36
Svlad Cjelli Can someone tell me what is the difference between London Irish upping sticks at their traditional location and setting up home somewhere else for purely commercial reasons .... and Mk Dons?
Didn't Reading have a couple of rugby teams before London Irish came along?
by Hoop Blah » 22 Oct 2010 10:07
Svlad Cjelli Can someone tell me what is the difference between London Irish upping sticks at their traditional location and setting up home somewhere else for purely commercial reasons .... and Mk Dons?
Svlad Cjelli Didn't Reading have a couple of rugby teams before London Irish came along?
by Svlad Cjelli » 22 Oct 2010 11:01
by Sarah Star » 22 Oct 2010 12:44
Svlad Cjelli It's a fairly esoteric and academic point, really....
Just that any hops reading RFC had of growing and going up through the leagues has been as firmly squashed as any hopes of Milton Keynes City FC had of doing the same.
Any local people who enjoy the sport will naturally gravitate to the biggrr club, at the expense of the smaller one which was here before, and which now won't develop naturally. It might not have done anyway, but that's not the point - parachuting in a club from elsewhere takes away its opportunity.
I guess I just have a natural aversion to franchising in sport.
by Svlad Cjelli » 22 Oct 2010 13:42
by Hoop Blah » 22 Oct 2010 15:14
Svlad Cjelli It's a fairly esoteric and academic point, really....
Just that any hops reading RFC had of growing and going up through the leagues has been as firmly squashed as any hopes of Milton Keynes City FC had of doing the same.
Any local people who enjoy the sport will naturally gravitate to the biggrr club, at the expense of the smaller one which was here before, and which now won't develop naturally. It might not have done anyway, but that's not the point - parachuting in a club from elsewhere takes away its opportunity.
I guess I just have a natural aversion to franchising in sport.
by SHORT AND CURLY » 22 Oct 2010 20:52
by Stranded » 23 Oct 2010 10:16
Svlad Cjelli It's a fairly esoteric and academic point, really....
Just that any hops reading RFC had of growing and going up through the leagues has been as firmly squashed as any hopes of Milton Keynes City FC had of doing the same.
Any local people who enjoy the sport will naturally gravitate to the biggrr club, at the expense of the smaller one which was here before, and which now won't develop naturally. It might not have done anyway, but that's not the point - parachuting in a club from elsewhere takes away its opportunity.
I guess I just have a natural aversion to franchising in sport.
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 23 Oct 2010 10:47
StrandedSvlad Cjelli It's a fairly esoteric and academic point, really....
Just that any hops reading RFC had of growing and going up through the leagues has been as firmly squashed as any hopes of Milton Keynes City FC had of doing the same.
Any local people who enjoy the sport will naturally gravitate to the biggrr club, at the expense of the smaller one which was here before, and which now won't develop naturally. It might not have done anyway, but that's not the point - parachuting in a club from elsewhere takes away its opportunity.
I guess I just have a natural aversion to franchising in sport.
Reading RFC did grow as big as it could, probably bigger - it was one of the top 30 clubs in the country in the early 90s. Poor management (some of the stories I know beggar belief) has led the club to where it is now and due to that they have lost a lot of people who cared about the club along the way. Some do now go to Irish as a result. Reading would never get back to that level even without Irish in town.
by RoyalBlue » 23 Oct 2010 12:24
Svlad Cjelli Can someone tell me what is the difference between London Irish upping sticks at their traditional location and setting up home somewhere else for purely commercial reasons .... and Mk Dons?
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 23 Oct 2010 12:32
RoyalBlueSvlad Cjelli Can someone tell me what is the difference between London Irish upping sticks at their traditional location and setting up home somewhere else for purely commercial reasons .... and Mk Dons?
Can you really not see the massive difference?
The owner of MK Dons bought another club and relocated it, then changed its name in order to buy a place in league football for Milton Keynes. That should never have been allowed by the spineless football authorities. London Irish remained the same club playing at the same level and merely relocated their base.
Had Reading Rugby Club had an extremely wealthy backer, they could perhaps have done the same to London Irish!
by Svlad Cjelli » 23 Oct 2010 12:44
RoyalBlueSvlad Cjelli Can someone tell me what is the difference between London Irish upping sticks at their traditional location and setting up home somewhere else for purely commercial reasons .... and Mk Dons?
Can you really not see the massive difference?
The owner of MK Dons bought another club and relocated it, then changed its name in order to buy a place in league football for Milton Keynes. That should never have been allowed by the spineless football authorities. London Irish remained the same club playing at the same level and merely relocated their base.
Had Reading Rugby Club had an extremely wealthy backer, they could perhaps have done the same to London Irish!
by Stranded » 23 Oct 2010 14:48
by RoyalBlue » 23 Oct 2010 16:22
Svlad CjelliRoyalBlueSvlad Cjelli Can someone tell me what is the difference between London Irish upping sticks at their traditional location and setting up home somewhere else for purely commercial reasons .... and Mk Dons?
Can you really not see the massive difference?
The owner of MK Dons bought another club and relocated it, then changed its name in order to buy a place in league football for Milton Keynes. That should never have been allowed by the spineless football authorities. London Irish remained the same club playing at the same level and merely relocated their base.
Had Reading Rugby Club had an extremely wealthy backer, they could perhaps have done the same to London Irish!
Surely the ownership is irrelevant. It's taking a club away from it's base and supporters and parachuting it somewhere else.
Are you really saying that Wimbledon being taken to Mk by its owners (without selling it to someone else) would have been acceptable?
by Svlad Cjelli » 23 Oct 2010 18:13
RoyalBlue Wimbledon had been nomads for some time prior to the sale of the club to Winkelman but at least they'd maintained their name/identity. I don't believe Winkelman intended anything other than to use the club to buy a league presence for Milton Keynes.
by rabidbee » 24 Oct 2010 00:34
Svlad CjelliRoyalBlue Wimbledon had been nomads for some time prior to the sale of the club to Winkelman but at least they'd maintained their name/identity. I don't believe Winkelman intended anything other than to use the club to buy a league presence for Milton Keynes.
Correct on both counts, but they'd been nomads within easy travelling distance for their supporters.
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