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by donface » 20 Dec 2010 17:03

Gordons Cumming I didn't think Glen Hoddle would make a manager. :shock:


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by PEARCEY » 20 Dec 2010 21:30

Gordons Cumming I didn't think Glen Hoddle would make a manager. :shock:



You were right.

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by Row Z Royal » 20 Dec 2010 21:33

Gordons Cumming I didn't think Glen Hoddle would make a manager. :shock:


You were right.

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by Starfish » 20 Dec 2010 21:47

PEARCEY You were right.


I didn't think Glen Hoddle would make a manager. :shock:

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by prostak » 20 Dec 2010 22:10

Starfish I didn't think Glen Hoddle would make a manager. :shock:


You were right.


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by Ian Royal » 20 Dec 2010 23:24

Groundhog day.

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by Ferris » 21 Dec 2010 11:30

Ghostbusters.

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by Wax Jacket » 21 Dec 2010 11:42

:roll:

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by prostak » 21 Dec 2010 18:15

Hang on, I know this one. Is the next in the sequence Jungle Burger?


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by bobbybottler » 21 Dec 2010 20:01

Hoop Blah I agree with the lesser player arguement but I think it has more to do with having to improve your knowledge of the game to succeed making them good managers rather than watching from the bench more. I'm sure that helps them suss out what works and doesn't from their good and bad managers, I just think a more naturally gifted player doesn't have to figure out what's going on as much as a lesser player.

It depends on the type of manager as well. Top level and International football is increasingly becoming a case of inspiring and selling the ideas/club to ever powerful and choosy players. The figure head and headline grabbing players might be more suited to that, with lots of the right people around them to do the technical/tactical bits, whereas the lower down you go, and the less resources you have the more you probably need to be able to stand on your own two feet.

I can see Nicky Forster being a decent manager. I can see the likes of Harper, Little or Gunnarsson being good as coaches or number 2's but maybe not as managers themselves. I think Carragher will be one to make a real go of it too. For all his faults he seems to live and breath the game and has a real appetite for learning about it too. I'm sure you need to love it to manage.

Good post HB but as I read the concluding bit about Carragher I was minded about Tony Adams, of whom exactly the same things could be said.

I admit I am struggling to think which current EPL managers had careers as players which could be described as stellar - Mancini perhaps, Hughes perhaps, Steve Bruce won a lot of trophies considering he was shite, and then I'm struggling a bit....

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by daswonder » 21 Dec 2010 20:18

bobbybottler I admit I am struggling to think which current EPL managers had careers as players which could be described as stellar - Mancini perhaps, Hughes perhaps, Steve Bruce won a lot of trophies considering he was shite, and then I'm struggling a bit....


Ancelotti was a successful midfielder with AC Milan

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by bobbybottler » 21 Dec 2010 22:18

daswonder
bobbybottler I admit I am struggling to think which current EPL managers had careers as players which could be described as stellar - Mancini perhaps, Hughes perhaps, Steve Bruce won a lot of trophies considering he was shite, and then I'm struggling a bit....


Ancelotti was a successful midfielder with AC Milan

yes (and Roma), completely agree with you, I knew I'd overlook someone

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by Hoop Blah » 22 Dec 2010 09:50

Good point regarding the similarities of Adams and Carragher, although I do think Adams took some bad jobs and was a little unfortunate in some ways. He still didn't make a very good go of it though and it just goes to show how there is a knack to managing however deeply you underdstand and study the game.

Interestingly I read this morning or last night that the FA have invited Carragher to get involved with some of the youngster squads. I think it's a nice idea, but I still remember him as the man who walked out on England because he couldn't get a game.

Slagging off Hoddle is a little childish in my book.

He's been a pretty successfull manager and if he could've just got over players not being quite as good as he was he could've been even better. He's been the best English England manager of the last 20 years if not longer (his record stacks up very well to Sir Bobby if you ask me).


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by Bandini » 22 Dec 2010 10:03

Hoop Blah
Slagging off Hoddle is a little childish in my book.

He's been a pretty successfull manager and if he could've just got over players not being quite as good as he was he could've been even better. He's been the best English England manager of the last 20 years if not longer (his record stacks up very well to Sir Bobby if you ask me).


Disagree. He's a smelly poo-head.

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by Hoop Blah » 22 Dec 2010 11:13

Only because he keeps kissing your mum...

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by bobbybottler » 22 Dec 2010 12:29

Hoop Blah Only because he keeps kissing your mum...

My understanding is that he's more likely to be kissing someone's Dad tbf

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Re: Current footballers ...

by paultheroyal » 22 Dec 2010 12:36

Coventry playing?

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by facaldaqui » 22 Dec 2010 15:36

No:

Luke Varney
Noel Hunt
Rio Ferdinand
David James
Brian Howard (I think Howard will want to be a manager but be over-confident)

Yes:

Ingimarsson
Gunnarsson
Carragher (Gerrard has tipped Carragher as a manager)
Kitson

Gazza was an interesting case. Clearly he has too many personal difficulties to be a manager, but I've never forgotten the Graham Taylor documentary in which we saw Gazza piping up in training with an idea for a dead ball kick and Taylor listening. Come the game, Gazza's idea was carried out, resulting in a goal.

Two players who were chosen ones to become managers were Bryan Robson and David Platt: neither of them hacked it exactly. Coleman looks like he's not getting there either. The jury's out on Southgate, but I wouldn't give up on him yet.

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by Wax Jacket » 22 Dec 2010 17:55

facaldaqui Gazza was an interesting case. Clearly he has too many personalities to be a manager


you mean

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by 10539.4 Miles Away » 23 Dec 2010 02:55

paultheroyal Coventry playing?


Idiots.

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