QPR points deduction?

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Royal Rother » 02 May 2011 22:02

Anything is possible Sarah, but I think it unlikely they'd be able to raise themselves.

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by Svlad Cjelli » 02 May 2011 22:03

Royal Rother Anything is possible Sarah, but I think it unlikely they'd be able to raise themselves.


Colin would be utterly livid - and that would probably translate itself into his team as instructions to "kick the opposition off the park"

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Sarah Star » 02 May 2011 22:26

Royal Rother Anything is possible Sarah, but I think it unlikely they'd be able to raise themselves.

But this is nothing to do with how well they've performed on the pitch. It's a bit different from say Cardiff, who may feel down because they didn't play as well as they think they could and are left pondering what they have to do. It''s a different mentality feeling you were robbed of something you feel you deserved, I think.

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Royal Rother » 02 May 2011 22:39

Teams have to bounce back from on-pitch disappointments all the time - this would be very different and imo far more difficult to bounce back from.

But I don't think they'll be in the play offs anyway!! If found guilty of the cover up charge they'll be relegated at least 1 whole division.

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by andrew1957 » 02 May 2011 22:59

I really cannot see a 15 point deduction happening. It would send the play offs into absolute chaos.

The only likely outcomes are 1/ QPR get off or 2/ if they are proven to be guilty then at least a 20 point plus deduction or an automatic relegation (meaning QPR stay put in the Championship).

If QPR don't get promoted, however, I can only see this ending up in Court. I hope the FA has a plan to get themselves out of this mess.


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by Snowball » 02 May 2011 23:01

I'm sure I read somewhere that clubs CAN'T take the FA to Court.

After all the FA represents all clubs INCLUDING QPR

so QPR would be suing themselves.



I suspect it's a condition of membership of the FA that you agree not to take the FA to court.

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Ian Royal » 02 May 2011 23:07

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Why? If they have fielded an ineligible player thats a points deduction. If they tried to cover it all up on top let them hang.
They deserve what they get which I still reckon will be a hefty points deduction.


It's not an ineligible player case, though - it's a player ownership case, for which there are no precedents!


So why does your post quoted over the page say they were hit with 7 charges related to fielding an ineligible player and providing false documentation. The ineligibility may be caused by the ownership issue, but everything reported about the charges seems to state fielding ineligible player.

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by Snowball » 02 May 2011 23:17

Since the FA/League disallows third-party-owned players
a third-party-owned player is therefore ineligible.

But the primary element is third-party ownership

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by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 03 May 2011 07:44

If QPR are docked points and they appeal what will happen to the play off games?


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by paultheroyal » 03 May 2011 07:51

Royal Rother Anything is possible Sarah, but I think it unlikely they'd be able to raise themselves.

Equally Reading players would be dejected knowing that if they had beaten Sheffield United and not mucked about then they to would of had a great shout fighting for second going into the last game!!

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by Einstein agogo » 03 May 2011 07:56

The Real Sandhurst Royal If QPR are docked points and they appeal what will happen to the play off games?


all the clubs in the play-offs have been pre-warned of possible disruption/delays

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by Schards#2 » 03 May 2011 08:39

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LOL @ as it stands. The Sun newspaper, people, The Sun newspaper!


And the journalist has got his story from this board, his facts are brittle and unfounded, his recognition of the charges are unrelated to the points he makes.

We are in the season of lazy journalism, if we are deducted points, then there are no play offs, Swansea will start the appeal off by stating that Faulins goal last season gave Blackpool a premiership slot, the charges that have been brought against QPR are charges that the football league have thrown out, it's FA procedure to follow this through, 41 pages of hope and desperation, if you think it is that much of a certainty, back Norwich at 16's and Cardiff at 100's to win the league, because those are the prices available AFTER this ridiculous report in the soaraway.


Good betting advice from Tredder.

Norwich are now less than 2/1 to win the Championship

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Royal Rother » 03 May 2011 08:40

There's a first time for everything.


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by Mr Angry » 03 May 2011 08:46

I think this issue is simply too big to be seen from a narrow, parochial view of "who would be best for us to meet in the play-offs"; that - with all due respect - is utterly irrelevant here.

What is important is that the integrity of the competition is paramount, and whilst being found guilty of some of the charges may result in a points deduction, that is small beer in comparison with being found guilty of lying to the FA and covering up their offences. It would mean that one club showed no respect to the other teams in the division, no respect to the governing body, and had acted in a completely underhand and mendacious manner.

It doesn't matter WHO that club is, who their manager is or where they are in the League - thats all noises off; IF they are found guilty of that charge, it is SO serious that UNLESS the FA give them a punishment which involves an element of demotion, it will be perceived as being weak and inappropriate by the rest of the football family.

And yes, I WOULD still hold that belief if the club in the dock for that charge was Reading FC.

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by readingbedding » 03 May 2011 08:51

Ex-FA chief executive Mark Palios on R4 Today told that QPR likely to suffer hefty points deduction in Faurlin case.

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by Gordons Cumming » 03 May 2011 08:55

readingbedding Ex-FA chief executive Mark Palios on R4 Today told that QPR likely to suffer hefty points deduction in Faurlin case.


Oh dear............I wonder what hefty means? 15? 30? That would be a real shame.... :lol:

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by readingbedding » 03 May 2011 08:58

And Rodgers – whose Swansea side seems likely to finish fourth and play the fifth-placed side in the play-offs – said: “We could be in a situation where QPR are docked points and they end up in the play-offs.

“For example, we could end up third and they’d be sixth and we could be playing the champions in a play-off game.

“That’s seems unfair and I guess sometimes things aren’t fair. But it’s certainly not right that it’s been left this long.”

Rodgers admits Swansea have had an “indication” that the play-offs may be delayed if Rangers are found guilty of breaching league rules.

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Royal Rother » 03 May 2011 09:14

The other teams should be hoping to play QPR. Can't believe they're coming out expressing their "fear" of facing them. Warnock's a helluva motivator but QPR's confidence and motivation will be down if they have to go into the play offs and they will be there for the taking imo.

Another thing, since December we have been second best only to Norwich so really the other teams should all be fearing us not the other way round.

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Silver Fox » 03 May 2011 09:26

While I'm still very much in favour of Colin getting his comeuppance I'm now slightly concerned that Cardiff's traditional massive choke will go unpunished. I'll certainly be cheering Sawnsea on this Saturday

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Re: QPR points deduction?

by Tilehurst End » 03 May 2011 09:26

Einstein agogo
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all the clubs in the play-offs have been pre-warned of possible disruption/delays


Problem then being that the play-offs may not be concluded until mid to late June giving the eventual winners little time to prepare for the Premier league.

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