Leicester Vs Reading

[Simon's Church]

It's because English players are not world class. The EPL is the spectacle it is because of the imports, not the Englishmen. We should be grateful making the quarters in any of these tournaments.

Our squad in 2002 included the likes of Trevor Sinclair, Danny Mills, Emile Heskey, Wes Brown, Gareth Southgate and Darius Vasell.

Who are you calling 'not world class'

[Franchise FC]

It's because English players are not world class. The EPL is the spectacle it is because of the imports, not the Englishmen. We should be grateful making the quarters in any of these tournaments.

Our squad in 2002 included the likes of Trevor Sinclair, Danny Mills, Emile Heskey, Wes Brown, Gareth Southgate and Darius Vasell.

Who are you calling 'not world class'

LOL - my family now think I'm stupid (it's possible) as I've spilled my drink all over the place.


Incredibly, I had forgotten about them.

[Friday's Legacy]

the minimum any england team should expect is a 1/4 final. sven was not a good manager for you. he achieved the very minimum and that wasn't good enough.

Disagree. Quarter Final's were about England's limit and Sven did it 3 times in a row. No one could have taken the team further, they just really weren't all that (though the newspapers convinced lots of stupid people that they were one of the best in the world)

whilst i agree with the newspapers hyping up england's chances all the time, the fifa world rankings suggest england should at the very least be a 1/4 final team.

[Simon's Church]

Ha I remember watching some highlights of that World cup fairly recently and seeing the squad

You do wonder how any sane person thought we might have a chance of beating Brazil in the QF.

[Franchise FC]

the minimum any england team should expect is a 1/4 final. sven was not a good manager for you. he achieved the very minimum and that wasn't good enough.

Disagree. Quarter Final's were about England's limit and Sven did it 3 times in a row. No one could have taken the team further, they just really weren't all that (though the newspapers convinced lots of stupid people that they were one of the best in the world)

whilst i agree with the newspapers hyping up england's chances all the time, the fifa world rankings suggest england should at the very least be a 1/4 final team.

But those same rankings have Wales behind the Faroe Islands ............ oh.

[rhroyal]

It's because English players are not world class. The EPL is the spectacle it is because of the imports, not the Englishmen. We should be grateful making the quarters in any of these tournaments.

Our squad in 2002 included the likes of Trevor Sinclair, Danny Mills, Emile Heskey, Wes Brown, Gareth Southgate and Darius Vasell.

Who are you calling 'not world class'

LOL - my family now think I'm stupid (it's possible) as I've spilled my drink all over the place.


Incredibly, I had forgotten about them.

On the flip side, 2006 squad. Ashley Cole, Terry, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, fit Hargreaves, Beckham. If Rooney had been fully fit that would have been a very good squad. And we didn't even go out to a good team; that Portugal team were not great to be honest.

You say that reaching the quarter finals was our limit. But we never made them in an appropriate manner, even if that was the case. When we went out in 1998 in France, or in when we lost in the semi in Euro 96, we were at our limits then you felt. We'd performed well against the lesser teams and given our all against the stronger ones. We upheld that noble tradition of being the plucky British loser.

In Sven's reign we never did that (perhaps 2002 excepted). Too many of Sven's tournaments were utter let downs, as it always is with England's football team. That's why I hate England's football team. Let down after let down. Damp squib after damp squib.

I don't expect our rugby boys to win the world cup this year, but I'm guessing we'll give it our best and come back with pride in tact. I don't expect Andy Murray to win a grandslam any time soon, but he'll continue to to play near his best and ultimately only be found wanting against 3 great players.

Never any pride and passion in that way from the football team. Sven's era epitomised this a little.

[soggy biscuit]

the fifa world rankings suggest

That's where you are going wrong

[Hoop Blah]

Just for the record, Danny Mills had an excellent World Cup that year, and I think Sinclair and Heskey both did good jobs as well.

You don't always need the best and most high profile players to win a tournament (or a Championship League game in early August) and you only have to look at teams like Denmark and Greece for proof of that. There are some pretty average players with World Cup winners medals out there too (Matterazzi for one!).

[Ian Royal]

Just for the record, Danny Mills had an excellent World Cup that year, and I think Sinclair and Heskey both did good jobs as well.

Don't remember Heskey, but I do remember Sinclair and Mills putting in good performances.

[Royal Rother]

Don't know what it is that McD has got but he continually loses his better players yet still manages to get great results, having lost Mills, Kish and Long, 3 strong players from the second half of last season he shuffles his pack, and picks up a result like this..........brilliant stuff !! Mr Mad you can sell away the team but thank heavens you cant sell the spirit that the manager gets into these players, must be worth a few bob that.

Imagine what he could do with a board that actually supported him and gave him resources most other managers have, frightening.

I don't think you get what Reading and our manager are about.

McDermott is best at spotting talent then nurturing and developing it. Young players who want to learn will do very well under him but the high earner, big ego, billy big bollox types who come with a fat fee just aren't his thing.

I would hope he is on a deal where he gets a percentage of the profit we make on selling players as that would reward him for his successes but to suggest he doesn't have the support of SJM because he isn't given a publicly announced transfer budget is pathetic tbh.

[The Prisoner]

Would have thought we'd have been featured on the FLS tonight, but the beeb creaming themselves on the prem rejects and Leeds for a change.

A favourite to go up vs play off finalists in a grudge match surely >>>>>> Leeds - Boro or Brum - Cov?

[rhroyal]

Would have thought we'd have been featured on the FLS tonight, but the beeb creaming themselves on the prem rejects and Leeds for a change.

A favourite to go up vs play off finalists in a grudge match surely >>>>>> Leeds - Boro or Brum - Cov?

I'm surprised too. But did they feature Leicester last week?

[SLAMMED]

Quality finish by HRK

[The Prisoner]

Quality finish by HRK

+1

[leww_rfc]

Quality finish by HRK

^ this.

[Ian Royal]

Anyone else noticed that three of our four goals this season have come from a Griffin to Kebe to goalscorer combination? I think two from Griff throw ins.

Good partnership there.

[Snowball]

Anyone else noticed that three of our four goals this season have come from a Griffin to Kebe to goalscorer combination? I think two from Griff throw ins.

Good partnership there.

Is that the Griffin who is still not match-fit
and many were asking to be dropped a few days ago?

[SLAMMED]

Anyone else noticed that three of our four goals this season have come from a Griffin to Kebe to goalscorer combination? I think two from Griff throw ins.

Good partnership there.

Is that the Griffin who is still not match-fit
and many were asking to be dropped a few days ago?

No the other one

[Ian Royal]

It's the Griffin who's been pretty poor defensively, certainly by his standards, hasn't had even close to a full pre-season and spent most of the second half of the first game limping.

I'm presuming the "Harte Defence" applies and he should carry on playing regardless of how bad he is defensively, because he helps create a few goals.

[leww_rfc]

The abuse doesn't bother me - find it very sad that you feel the need to obviously haven't got anything interesting in ya life