Rumour - Steve Coppell

[Focher]

I partly agree with zammos harsh assesment. Walking out because you are not happy for whatever reason is fine if its only once. Coppell has built a reputation for himself that he can never shake, a bottler. We know that's not true but anybody who has not worked with him have that perception of him. His manageriial record also suggests he is not up for a scrap, when the going gets tough at the bottom he struggles to pull his team out of trouble. When his teams are at the top its quite the opposite.

[Ian Royal]

Palace 3(?) times
Brentford
Brighton
Reading

vs

Man City
Bristol City

That's two walk outs out of eight jobs. The only thing from that I'd take is that Chairman of clubs ending in City shouldn't employ him.

Fair enough call on not doing great at turning around poor performances mid-season. But then he did manage to take us from falling apart after Xmas and finishing 9th, to Champions the next season.

[Focher]

Palace 3(?) times
Brentford
Brighton
Reading

vs

Man City
Bristol City

That's two walk outs out of eight jobs. The only thing from that I'd take is that Chairman of clubs ending in City shouldn't employ him.

Fair enough call on not doing great at turning around poor performances mid-season. But then he did manage to take us from falling apart after Xmas and finishing 9th, to Champions the next season.

name me another manager that has walked out on his own accord twice out of 8 managerial jobs

I think most on here are all too willing to look at Coppells positives and completely ignore the obvious negatives.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Have to love Coppell for what he did at RFC, however had Brentford beat us they would have gone up, he walked out on them citing the lack of finances. Then he went to Brighton, but did not manage the team untill it was to late, after relegation they were top of League One, but he walked out on them to come to Reading.

[Zammo]

Is this the same Coppell that has a history of walking out of clubs ? Is generally a private man, so it is doubtful that even his wife knows what he is thinking ?!?

If I were a chairman, I would not go near him. We got lucky. End of.

LOL - a habit?? The reasons were perfectly clear why he walked out on Bristol City - he was promised stuff but the chairman didn't deliver when he got there.

Man City was a strange one - lots of rumours about that. He was at Brentford and Palace and didn't walk out and he didn't walk out on us either.

Give me those perfectly clear reasons please ? Promised stuff - LOL.

[Zammo]

Is this the same Coppell that has a history of walking out of clubs ? Is generally a private man, so it is doubtful that even his wife knows what he is thinking ?!?

If I were a chairman, I would not go near him. We got lucky. End of.

Very unfair summary.

He left Man City and Bristol City for whatever reasons - broken promises seems to be the most likely route cause which resulted in him not enjoying it and deciding to leave of his own accord.

But because he walked he claimed no compensation from either club. Hugely preferable to him sticking around for a year, getting a big wage for not doing a great job, getting sacked and receiving a pay-off of a million or two.

I'd have thought he's EXACTLY the sort of manager that a chairman with integrity the match of Coppell's would fall over themselves to hire. (But of course there aren't many of those around.)

The facts are he walked out of two clubs. WALKED !!!! Yes, as a chariman I think i will sack my current manager, chase after Coppell, turn down his request for an expensive striker (only a rumour, but that's all you are going on), watch him throw his toys out of the pram and leave. I'll then face the media, swallow my pride and start another manager search

[who are ya?]

He's a club gr8 but lost the plot in the end. Has no clue when things go tits up.

On a side note, weren't there rumours of him being an iron not so long ago

[Focher]

so in brief assesment:

Palace - releg8ed twice, good job in parts, not wanted by Goldberg or Jordan
Man City - walked out
Brentford - left when didnt get promoted
Brighton - left after getting being bang up there following relegation the previous season
Reading - Gr8 job done, ended poorly
Bristol City - walked out

its not the kind of CV to give under pressure chairmen confidence.

[Royal Lady]

Better to walk of your own accord than get sacked. Shows what a gentleman he is. As someone else said, he could have waited and been sacked and taken the pay off.

With Bristol City - he went there under the promise of an amount of money etc, which wasn't forthcoming from what I read about it - plus didn't the chairman sign David James (probably using up all the budget he was going to give to Mr C) and before a ball was kicked that season, Coppell realised it was a huge mistake and walked out?

Manchester City - there was talk of him not being able to cope - but also talk of a more personal nature, which I hope is wrong, but as he didn't even jump on me or try and snog me when I met him, might be true.

[Focher]

This blind defence of Coppell is pretty embarrassing.

Look at the facts, apart from his first stint at Palace and Reading, his track record at remaining at a club is utterly appalling, for whatever reason. You may think its the gentlemanly thing to walk out, but this is football not some shitty factory where walking out after 4 months probably wont make any difference whatsoever.

A dam fine manager who can only do his job when the environment is perfect. The great managers get the job done whatever the environment. (and dont walk out when its not going their way).

[Royal Lady]

Pah. I have loved him since he played for Man Utd and England, so I will always defend him. I wish Schards hadn't stopped me from giving him a hug before the Derby game.

[Man Friday]

Bottler versus bravery - "you decide."

Someone who leaves a job when he decides that a situation is not to his liking is brave to my way of thinking. Ok, he can afford to do it, whereas most of us can't but it still takes courage because naturally you'll be concerned that some idiots will simply view it that you lacked courage. Perverse thinking in the extreme. If you find that for whatever reason your heart's not in it then it takes real courage to let someone else have a chance who is more up for it.

It's the way that you leave that matters. Steve always leaves without slagging off his employers or snitching on the real reason. A man of honour, a man of integrity. Not too many of them around these days.

[Focher]

Bottler versus bravery - "you decide."

Someone who leaves a job when he decides that a situation is not to his liking is brave to my way of thinking. Ok, he can afford to do it, whereas most of us can't but it still takes courage because naturally you'll be concerned that some idiots will simply view it that you lacked courage. Perverse thinking in the extreme. If you find that for whatever reason your heart's not in it then it takes real courage to let someone else have a chance who is more up for it.

It's the way that you leave that matters. Steve always leaves without slagging off his employers or snitching on the real reason. A man of honour, a man of integrity. Not too many of them around these days.

what an absolute load of bollocks.

[Royalee]

Bottlejob.

[Man Friday]

With the likes of you two disgreeing with me that's the strongest endorsement that I'm right that I could ever have.

Thanks.

[Royalee]

Why? Because I told everyone Coppell had to go because his heart wasn't in it and he was taking us backwards for him to turn up at Bristol City and prove exactly that? For me to tell everyone Rodgers shouldn't have been sacked and was a good manager to see his side beat us in the playoff final playing far superior football to us and making a great start to Premier League life? Coppell's an average manager who picks his jobs and has no plan B when the going gets tough, nice guy and all that but ultimately a bottlejob.

[melonhead]

[Ian Royal]

Apart from bottlejob & nice guy I thought that last sentence was a better description of Rodgers TBH.

[Royal With Cheese]

Why? Because I told everyone Coppell had to go because his heart wasn't in it and he was taking us backwards for him to turn up at Bristol City and prove exactly that? For me to tell everyone Rodgers shouldn't have been sacked and was a good manager to see his side beat us in the playoff final playing far superior football to us and making a great start to Premier League life? Coppell's an average manager who picks his jobs and has no plan B when the going gets tough, nice guy and all that but ultimately a bottlejob.

Hmm, I thought you'd lost faith in Coppell after the 7-4 defeat at Pompey. Had he lost heart at that point?

[Royalee]

Could have done.