Alan Hansen Apologises For Describing Black Players

[chilipepper91]

Growing up I was taught by my teachers not to use the phrase " black people"

Wtf?????

So was i tbf

We also weren't allowed to call it a "black board" - had to be a "chalk board" and it wasn't "Ba Ba black sheep" but "Ba Ba rainbow sheep"

True story ^^

We had "thought showers" not "brainstorms" after someone thought epileptics and the like could get offended

[Bandini]

It's pointless getting offended by it as it's clear that Hansen was trying to choose a neutral term rather than a pejorative one.

But in relation to the word itself, it is a bit surprising to hear it being used these days.

[Silver Fox]

If "coloured people" is offensive someone might want to have a word with the NAACP

[Ian Royal]

And lets face it, anyone who doesn't know "coloured" isn't an acceptable term must have been frozen in a stasis tank for the last 20 years. Still, apology and lesson learned is all that's needed.

Utter garbage I haven't heard one person make noises about this not being acceptable until today. Hansen was trying his hardest NOT to offend anyone and be as displomatic as possible, he's a good 30 years or so older than me and my friends and I were taught to use coloured, never seen it raise an eye brow at all. Whats sickening is that people now are CHOOSING to get offended and make issues over everything.

They seriously want people to stop using this? Fine...lets have members of the black communities come out and give us the correct term to use going forward then and we'll teach that in schools. This is an utter joke

It's been on HNA several times over the last few years. It's in at least one major Hollywood movie of the last 10 years or so, just off the top of my head. No one ever uses the term "coloured" on TV without getting in trouble. And it's just plain meaningless on top of that.

Where have you been for the last 20 years? With your head up your arse watching 'Til Death Us Do Part?

Use black, it's more accurate and it's widely used and has been for the last 20 years at least. You can't be much older than me, and I grew up knowing it wasn't a good idea to use "coloured".

[exileinleeds]

Nobody who has had even the remotest contact with the media, can possibly think "coloured" has been acceptable since the mid 70's.

To make his point, Hansen might have been better advised to use "overseas". It is not obviously a problem with the colour of a players skin- but some rather who have no comprehension of what we will find unacceptable in this country. Clubs have a responsibility to make players aware of this.

[FiNeRaIn]

And lets face it, anyone who doesn't know "coloured" isn't an acceptable term must have been frozen in a stasis tank for the last 20 years. Still, apology and lesson learned is all that's needed.

Utter garbage I haven't heard one person make noises about this not being acceptable until today. Hansen was trying his hardest NOT to offend anyone and be as displomatic as possible, he's a good 30 years or so older than me and my friends and I were taught to use coloured, never seen it raise an eye brow at all. Whats sickening is that people now are CHOOSING to get offended and make issues over everything.

They seriously want people to stop using this? Fine...lets have members of the black communities come out and give us the correct term to use going forward then and we'll teach that in schools. This is an utter joke

Where have you been for the last 20 years? With your head up your arse watching 'Til Death Us Do Part?

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Evidently with 3/4 other posters on this thread...plus a good few people at work. I think you are in the minority here.

[Man Friday]

This thread is proving extremely useful. The posters I have long-suspected of being ignoramuses of the highest order are proving it beyond doubt (unless of course they are taking the pi$$ big time, The Office style, in which case, fair dues, you had me going there).

[Franchise FC]

And lets face it, anyone who doesn't know "coloured" isn't an acceptable term must have been frozen in a stasis tank for the last 20 years. Still, apology and lesson learned is all that's needed.

Utter garbage I haven't heard one person make noises about this not being acceptable until today. Hansen was trying his hardest NOT to offend anyone and be as displomatic as possible, he's a good 30 years or so older than me and my friends and I were taught to use coloured, never seen it raise an eye brow at all. Whats sickening is that people now are CHOOSING to get offended and make issues over everything.

They seriously want people to stop using this? Fine...lets have members of the black communities come out and give us the correct term to use going forward then and we'll teach that in schools. This is an utter joke

It's been on HNA several times over the last few years. It's in at least one major Hollywood movie of the last 10 years or so, just off the top of my head. No one ever uses the term "coloured" on TV without getting in trouble. And it's just plain meaningless on top of that.

Where have you been for the last 20 years? With your head up your arse watching 'Til Death Us Do Part?

Use black, it's more accurate and it's widely used and has been for the last 20 years at least. You can't be much older than me, and I grew up knowing it wasn't a good idea to use "coloured".

Ian you are having a laugh, aren't you. Not one person who isn't caucasion (sp.) is black. Most are shades of brown.

[Scylla]

Interesting how many people are advancing the Suarez defence on behalf of Hansen - he didn't know, he didn't mean it...

[Royal With Cheese]

Fcuk me Ian, I thought Kes' John Mackie facepalm was bad enough.

At school I was specifically told to refer to black people as "coloured" rather than "black".

It's incredible how perceptions can change over a relatively short space of time.

[Ark Royal]

Do not think I have ever used 'coloured', whether it is deemed offensive or not. I always picture the apartheid system in South Africa whenever I hear the word.

Perhaps Hansen should have used 'differently hued' - that would have confused the shit out of everyone.

[Royal Rother]

I'm guessing when people were taught not to use black it was without anyone having actually asked any black people.

Why on earth would you call them coloured? They aren't purple!

And lets face it, anyone who doesn't know "coloured" isn't an acceptable term must have been frozen in a stasis tank for the last 20 years. Still, apology and lesson learned is all that's needed.

I dont agree

I've spent most of my life thinking "coloured" is what we should use......i remember being at school and being told off for saying "black"

^ this.

I raised this very point on here about 5 years ago and was duly stamped on by every PC dipshit on the board. It had never occurred to me that anyone might consider me racist, because I'm not, but this whole coloured / black / half caste / mixed race crap really fcuks with people's heads (and I don't mean mine).

You get brought up one way, told to change, just get used to that then get told to change back. How's a late middle aged brain supposed to cope?

[Bandini]

It's not actually difficult to understand that language and the use of language changes over time.

Hansen hasn't received that much flak for it. Most of the comment has been that the term is outdated, which it is.

[AthleticoSpizz]

whayhey back in the 1960s at my primary school, black, white and coloured kids were read "little Black Sambo" books by our multicultural teachers during story time.

Cannot help but think that we have become our own worst enemies here.

[rob the royal]

Equally some people who were brought up calling black people "coloured" then go on to become teachers and so it continues - resulting in me thinking that coloured was correct and black was racist for a few years when I was a kid.

Thing is though, as mentioned above, if it's that insulting surely the NAACP should have changed its name by now.

The guy made a mistake, I don't think he's a member of the KKK.

[Platypuss]

Thing is though, as mentioned above, if it's that insulting surely the NAACP should have changed its name by now.

Why? What's considered offensive in one country may not be in another. The NAACP's own view is that colored is "outdated and antiquated but not offensive" so keep it for tradition's sake as the organisation has been around for over 100 years. Another example of cultural differences is where "Paki" has no racist connotations in most other countries.

BTW A five year old link discussion of the offensiveness of "coloured" in the UK after a Tory MP used the term:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6132672.stm

[Svlad Cjelli]

Good link - that just demonstrates just what a minefield this whole thing is.

[soggy biscuit]

Genuinely interested to know Finerains age.

[TBM]

Genuinely interested to know Finerains age.

well im 31 and i was taught in school to say "coloured" and not "black"

hth

[Handsome Man]

FFS
It has been black for 25 years: everybody in the media knows that.

I couldn't believe what Alan Hansen said, and it was right that he apologised. It made him look out of touch as much as anything, and certainly not the right person to comment on the Terry or Suarez affairs. Only 75 people complained and all should be right with the world again.

But no. We have the pathetic bleating of the PC-gone-mad brigade, dragging out every single incident like this out for all its worth to get their agenda across. It is boring as much as anything.